What would you need the M1 for on a phone? The A series chips already have way better performance than competing mobile chips. The M1 would be overkill and would shorten the battery life
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Kuo: Only iPhone 14 Pro Models to Get 'A16' Chip, Standard Models to Retain A15
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The iPhone 3G had the same CPU as the first generation iPhone, so not quite the first time.
But then, the CPU wasn't so much of a concern, and getting 3G in was the big step up. 3GS was the first iPhone with a (much) faster CPU than the predecessor.
Wouldn’t A16 for base and A16 Pro for Pro models make more sense?
A week ago I would have called BS.
But then Apple replaced the A14 in the iPadAir with an A14x......
But then Apple replaced the A14 in the iPadAir with an A14x......
What are you talking about? There will be NEW COLORS!!
Apple needs to focus on putting a quality modem out. I don‘t think they can match the Quality modems that Qualcomm is putting out.
Unfortunately that might actually work on me since the main reason I just upgraded to 13 Pro was because of that Alpine Green
At this point the chip is pointless aside from how it interacts with things like the camera. Running apps on a five year old iPhone and a new one is nearly an identical experience.
Samesies. I am currently rocking XR and will definitely get a new iPhone this year. If non-Pro iPhone 14 still has A15, I might get a Alpine Green iPhone 13 Pro on sale instead.Unfortunately that might actually work on me since the main reason I just upgraded to 13 Pro was because of that Alpine Green
This just isn’t believable at all to me. So the “new” iPhone 14 that’s released in September of 2022 will have the same chipset that the “budget” iPhone SE has … what’s the sense of the SE again then? Just lower the price of the “mid tier” flagships and make one of them the budget model.
Maybe it happens, but this one is almost unbelievable.
Maybe it happens, but this one is almost unbelievable.
One could easily have said ”theres no way a budget iPhone is gonna have the latest processor as the current flagship lineup”. But it does . Chips are pointless now and more of a selling point on a Mac, not mobile devices. People buy new phones for more storage, better cameras and other obvious features. No one I’ve talked to in many years says “my phone is just too slow”.
So in March 2022 the budget iPhones SE gets the A15 … and 6 months later the regular new iPhone gets the same, then year-old chip? No way. Go home, Kuo, you‘re drunk.
The way Apple would do this is to simply remove the ability to purchase the 13, instead of pushing it down the line and charging less for it. Exactly the same way they eliminated the Apple watch 4 when they brought in the 5, 6, 7 series. None of them are significant enough upgrades, so keeping the 4 around would cannabalize the sales of the new models.
Exactly. This would be apples way of dealing with both making profit and the chip shortage. I don’t think people appreciate how even more dire the chip issues could become based on forthcoming world events.
I agree with power consumption but tbh the Pro lineup could use a thunderbolt controller and USBC port for ProRes transfert, which the M1 would have baked in. It’s something they can probably add in a A series chip, but at this point why not put an M1 and throttle it a bit?
its not his twitter account...people still think that and are confusedIs it just me or have all of Ming-Chi Kuo’s rumors been really disappointing lately?
That’s how I know they’re probably true…
The A14 already supports USB-C transfers at at least 5 GB/s as it's offered on the 4th generation iPad Air. No need for an M1 for that.
Thanks for the insight, @Kazgarth . I know a lot more about their 4nm process than I do the 3nm. Very, very minor differences from 5nm. Apple will have to make their gains in the design, I reckon.
So q4 2022 production of 3nm - what will be the first Apple product with it? Wait until A17 in fall 2023 or m3 earlier in year? What do you think?
So q4 2022 production of 3nm - what will be the first Apple product with it? Wait until A17 in fall 2023 or m3 earlier in year? What do you think?
What would be different about an A16 Pro? More battery eating cores?
The A-series chips are designed to provide power without using too much battery power. If you "turbocharge" an A-series it would go through the battery in no time. CPU performance is not something that iPhones lack.
Yeah, my iPhone 7 Plus with A10 was pretty decent, even compared to my iPhone 12 Pro Max with A14. I could notice some lag here and there on the 7 Plus before I sold it last year, but it wasn't bad at all. Mind you, the 7 Plus only has 3 GB RAM, so that could account for the lag.
The main reason I upgraded was actually for the camera.
Anyhow, given how fast these chips are these days, colour me surprised that iPhone SE got A15. IMO, there is no need for it in the SE from a performance standpoint. I don't know if A15 is preferred by Apple for other reasons though.
If this rumor is true, and there isn't any significant new features for iPhone 14, other than a larger 6.7" Max size, Apple should lower the price of iPhone 14.