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Kuo: Only iPhone 14 Pro Models to Get 'A16' Chip, Standard Models to Retain A15
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Hey, I have a question for you, MacRumors forum members: Do you think, if this ends up being true in September, the iPhone 13 and 13 mini could disappear from the lineup just to be replaced by the 14 and 14 max?
It doesn't sound like there's much difference between the two, so I don't see why not
Only Pro users get A16…that seems logical. It feels good to be a Pro Max user.
Another Pro feature for 14….a pro DAC for music listening. Connect my AirPods Max to the 14 Pro Max with the new lightning-to-lightning cable and prepare to be blown away.
Another Pro feature for 14….a pro DAC for music listening. Connect my AirPods Max to the 14 Pro Max with the new lightning-to-lightning cable and prepare to be blown away.
It's not an A14X, it's an M1.
The M1 chip is considerably more different to the A14 it's derived from than the A12X/Z is to the A12 it's derived from.
Supply chain issues could be a reason. And if the A16 is on a smaller process, maybe limited production capacity of that process, or limited type 5 RAM availability.
We are in a world if limited technological resources that looks to become even more constrained this year.
We are in a world if limited technological resources that looks to become even more constrained this year.
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I have a feeling it will disappear from the lineup. Especially iPhone Mini. All eyes will be on iPhone 14.
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It very much is his Twitter account. He's been coming up with some weird stuff lately, but it's definitely his account. Just check the first page of this thread.
Everyone on the forum complaining about the regular iPhone 14 keeping the A15 - we all know you’re going to buy the 14 pro max anyway!
I guess processors are getting so fast that unless there’s a new imaging pipeline that can use the extra power, a new processor won’t be necessary.
But…
Even with a new chassis this will be a hard sell for the regular 14, unless we see something like:
For the regular model:
A meaningful price drop in price
plus the x3 lens from this year’s pro.
For the plus model
The above (plus the bigger screen obviously).
If the regular iPhone gets a price cut, I’d imagine that the iPhone plus sized phones will be priced pretty similarly to how the regular 14 is today, with Apple calculating that the majority of people will buy the regular plus sized phones (so it’s not really a price cut but more bang for your buck).
I guess processors are getting so fast that unless there’s a new imaging pipeline that can use the extra power, a new processor won’t be necessary.
But…
Even with a new chassis this will be a hard sell for the regular 14, unless we see something like:
For the regular model:
A meaningful price drop in price
plus the x3 lens from this year’s pro.
For the plus model
The above (plus the bigger screen obviously).
If the regular iPhone gets a price cut, I’d imagine that the iPhone plus sized phones will be priced pretty similarly to how the regular 14 is today, with Apple calculating that the majority of people will buy the regular plus sized phones (so it’s not really a price cut but more bang for your buck).
Those are just names made up by marketing.
Sure they added a bunch of stuff needed for a Mac and emulating x86 code but in the end it's the same 2020 A14 cores in the new iPadAir. Just a few more of them which I think is odd. Almost as odd as not updating the iPhone14 to A16.
Might be true.
Apple for sure wants to widen the gap between the iPhone 14 and 14 Pro to entice people to spend more and get the pro.
Especially if the iPhone 14 will also come in a Max configuration, a lot of people that are just interested in the larger screen won’t have any tangible reason to buy the way more expensive Pro Max if they have the same specs.
Apple for sure wants to widen the gap between the iPhone 14 and 14 Pro to entice people to spend more and get the pro.
Especially if the iPhone 14 will also come in a Max configuration, a lot of people that are just interested in the larger screen won’t have any tangible reason to buy the way more expensive Pro Max if they have the same specs.
Too bad they continue to dumb down the base models THIS bad. Good old days of the iPhone 11, when "only" the screen and the lack of the tele lens was the (major) difference. After that, they did make sure the 12 and the 13 was substantially worse than the Pro models in for example the camera department. 
At the very least, I bet we’ll see the 6.1 phone at the same price point as the mini.
I’d be hopeful that we’ll see the macro lens too on the regular iPhone but making the regular 14 the same price as the iPhone 13 mini is more apple’s style.
he is not him, the way he talks, the stuff that puts on it, and macrumors already told us that his account cannot be verified
Sure, that would make sense.
But one of the main reason why Apple can "get away" with doing less impressive features for SE and standard iPhones, compared to iPhones Pro, is because you always get the fastest chip on the market even if you don't go with a $999+ iPhone.
Most of the value proposition of the midrange, standard iPhone 14 would be much less potent if it's core strength, the A16, was the same as last year's A15.
Yes, a lot would still opt for the 14 if display and other components are upgraded. But a large chunk would opt for discounted 13s and 13s Pro, maybe SE 2022s (Apple can't stop retailers from selling the old models).
Apple might find other ways to make the standard iPhone 14 appear high value. But it could prove to be catastrophic for sales if it's the same step down from Pro to standard as we've seen previous years but on top of that doesn't get the full chip upgrade.
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This just tells me that TSMC’s brand new 4nm fab does not yet have the capacity to produce enough chips for ~250m iPhones. Not the end of the world. Those that care about having the cutting edge will buy the Pro model anyways.
So for the 14 non-pro he's suggesting no new chip, no ProMotion and it'll still have the notch whereas the 14 Pro will have no notch, a new chip and still have ProMotion. Surely Apple still want people to buy and upgrade from their 13 (even if the sensible thing is not to)?
Must be some significant upgrades elsewhere - camera, battery life, screen etc
I hope Apple are factoring price into this too - there will be a significant difference in spec between the standard and Pro models, more so than any other year, so needs to be a $300/$350+ price difference between the base models at least.
Must be some significant upgrades elsewhere - camera, battery life, screen etc
I hope Apple are factoring price into this too - there will be a significant difference in spec between the standard and Pro models, more so than any other year, so needs to be a $300/$350+ price difference between the base models at least.
Perhaps significantly less? No port, no cable, no sticker, no SIM card tray/tool? Less is more, or so I've heard.
This has to be because of the chip shortage. The the iPad Air getting the M1 chip. If that extra processing power doesn’t come with extra features, why include it.
If it does retain the A15, I wonder how Apple would try and 'sell' the idea of keeping it in their keynote/promo video.
"We've kept the same great A15 chip that powered the iPhone 13 and this year's iPhone SE, you're going to carry on loving it as much as we have to!"
"We've kept the same great A15 chip that powered the iPhone 13 and this year's iPhone SE, you're going to carry on loving it as much as we have to!"