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I really doubt Apple is going to change iPads from Lightning to USB-C.

Besides the fact that there isn't really any good reason for the change, the USB-C plug is larger than Lightning, and Apple is obsessed with using the smallest components possible.

This will be a welcome addition in the long run, I dont think they care about convenience of carrying one charget right now. They will update the IPhone to USB C and kill lightning eventually. Also, remember they killed the headphone jack even though the majority of consumers didn't have wireless headphones.
 
Not a chance in hell Apple replaces Lightning on the iPad. It doesn't make sense: if I were traveling with all updated Apple products I would need a Lightning cable for my iPhone and a USB-C cable for my iPad. Why?!
Precisely. Also, changing iPad Pro to USB-C renders it unable to charge the current-gen Apple Pencil, compatibility with which is one of the selling points of the iPad Pro. Will Apple start to sell two Apple Pencils—one USB-C, one Lightning for use with the current-gen Standard iPad? Makes little sense.
 
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If ipad gets USB-C, how will the apple pencil be charged? Another dongle?
New Apple Pencil maybe? Then you could charge it in a Mac as well.
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Precisely. Also, changing iPad Pro to USB-C renders it unable to charge the current-gen Apple Pencil, compatibility with which is one of the selling points of the iPad Pro. Will Apple start to sell two Apple Pencils—one USB-C, one Lightning for use with the current-gen Standard iPad? Makes little sense.
Well change is always messy at first.
 
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All the Series 2 and Series 3 watches already have a ceramic back so the price is already factored in...the only models with composite are Series 0 and Series 1.

Nice, thanks jarman, wasn't aware of that :)
 
USB-C on the iPad could make sense, but on the iPad only. I think they'll stick with Lighting on the iPhone.
I really hope the new Apple Watch will feature a better heart beat sensor and I'd love it to be fully Qi compatible in order to charge it with the Qi pads I already have. I'm not buying Airpower unless is less than $99 but it will be way more expensive than that.
 
I really doubt Apple is going to change iPads from Lightning to USB-C.

Besides the fact that there isn't really any good reason for the change, the USB-C plug is larger than Lightning, and Apple is obsessed with using the smallest components possible.


Right now I use a 29W USB-C power block with cable to lightning for my 1st gen 12.9 Ipad Pro (which I plan to update this Fall), so there is that possibility they could add that cable and leave the lightning port
 
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This will be a welcome addition in the long run, I dont think they care about convenience of carrying one charget right now. They will update the IPhone to USB C and kill lightning eventually. Also, remember they killed the headphone jack even though the majority of consumers didn't have wireless headphones.

I disagree that this will be a welcome addition. The USB Consortium and USB-IF come out with a new standard every other year. At least Apple provides some stability and long-term viability to their proprietary standards.

In the time period that Apple has had two mobile cable standards (Dock, Lightning), USB has had seven (Mini-A, Mini-B, Mini-AB, Micro-A, Micro-B, Micro-B SuperSpeed, and now Type C). So in approx 2003 to present, 15 years, USB averages a new plug type every other year. This is not a welcome addition. Most consumers don't want to buy new cables that often.

Even within USB-C, there is already a bunch of confusion because not all devices and not all cables support all the features of USB-C, such as PowerDelivery and AlternateMode. There is a newer "gen 2" spec that is supported sometimes. Thus, pairing USB-C cables to devices is actually quite confusing - there is no good way to know if a particular cable was made and tested to work with "gen 2" of USB-C.
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Right now I use a 29W USB-C power block with cable to lightning for my 1st gen 12.9 Ipad Pro (which I plan to update this Fall), so there is that possibility they could add that cable and leave the lightning port

I think this is most likely.

When these rumors talk about USB-C and iPad, everyone assumes it is the port on the iPad that will be changed to USB-C. No, it's the port on the charger that will be changed to USB-C, and the iPad will come with a USB-C to Lightning cable.
 
Any word on glucose monitoring?
As someone who wears a continuous glucose monitor, I can tell you, we will not have non-invasive continuous glucose monitors (CGM) anytime soon. The technology for a CGM has just recently become good enough to use reliably. These reliable models are all invasive. Optical CGMs are a LONG way away. I wish I were wrong, but I just don't see this happening on a watch before the end of the decade.
 
It makes no sense to switch the iPad to USB-C.

It does if they're pushing the iPads as a replacement for computers. But unless their file system (e.g. Files, Documents, etc.) supports reading mass storage devices, USB-C is not really that useful.

Will Apple start to sell two Apple Pencils—one USB-C, one Lightning for use with the current-gen Standard iPad? Makes little sense.

They included a MagSafe adapter with their display when they changed it way back in the day; I assume they could just throw another adapter in the box.
 
ECG makes the Series 4 an instant buy for me. Time to prepare to sell my Series 2.

Agreed, that ECG/EKG is enough to get me to trade up from my LTE Series 3. Everything else, not bad, but IF true, that is a big deal. The larger screen wouldn't hurt either.

I don't believe the USB vs Lightning - perhaps Lightning to USB-C. IF true, Apple needs to settle on a connector for a while. The constant change with the subsequent need for adaptors is getting out of hand. I doubt they'd use a larger connector though, it would be the opposite of everything we've seen the last decade and a half.
 
Precisely. Also, changing iPad Pro to USB-C renders it unable to charge the current-gen Apple Pencil, compatibility with which is one of the selling points of the iPad Pro. Will Apple start to sell two Apple Pencils—one USB-C, one Lightning for use with the current-gen Standard iPad? Makes little sense.
I agree. It's much more likely that the charger cable is a Lightning to USB-C cable so it can charge faster than it is to actually replace the Lightning port on the iPad with USB-C.
 
I agree. It's much more likely that the charger cable is a Lightning to USB-C cable so it can charge faster than it is to actually replace the Lightning port on the iPad with USB-C.
I would love it if they shipped the iPad Pro with 30W USB-C adapter but I’m highly skeptical they would because it woukd eat into their accessories revenue.
 
Agreed, that ECG/EKG is enough to get me to trade up from my LTE Series 3. Everything else, not bad, but IF true, that is a big deal. The larger screen wouldn't hurt either.

I don't believe the USB vs Lightning - perhaps Lightning to USB-C. IF true, Apple needs to settle on a connector for a while. The constant change with the subsequent need for adaptors is getting out of hand. I doubt they'd use a larger connector though, it would be the opposite of everything we've seen the last decade and a half.

Has there been any discussion on how they are going to implement an ECG? Will there need to be an accessory for it to work or will it work just from the watch?
 
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Continuous EKG could be interesting. There's a device called QardioCore that is available everywhere but the US (no FDA approval yet) that does continuous EKG recording with a chest strap (which is different than what runners often wear which just measures pulse).

Usually for even just a single lead EKG you'd need to complete a circuit, which makes reading from the wrist a bit difficult—not to mention the movement at the wrist which would cause interference.

I would predict that it's either: 1) Similar to AliveCor's current band where you have to complete a circuit by touching with the other hand and it does a single reading at a time or 2) It uses the plethysmograph information from the LEDs on the back of the watch to SIMULATE an EKG-type reading (as they have been testing in the Apple heart study) to notice arrhythmia. If it's the latter, then there's really no reason it couldn't work with any Apple Watch—although Apple has been known to make features exclusive to certain models even though it's technically feasible on others.
 
i feel Apple made a switch to lightening at a wrong time. And now they are stuck with it on iPhones as another switch to usb c would be too soon. damn. would have loved USBc across the board
 
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