Kuo: USB-C on 2018 iPad Pro, Touch ID on 2018 MacBook, EKG and Ceramic Backs on All Apple Watch Series 4 Models, More

[neoelectronaut]

Interested in iMac updates. Hopefully we hear more about that soon.

Also I love Apple's 12" Macbook...wish I had gone for that over my Macbook Pro honest. Gonna be real bummed if they start making major changes to it.

 

[cambookpro]

"As far as the Apple Watch Series 4 lineup is concerned, Kuo believes all models will feature ceramic rear casing, rather than aluminum or stainless steel, whereas just the high-end Edition model is ceramic in the Series 3 lineup."

No, he's not talking about the casing. He's talking about the sensor cover, which is already ceramic on the stainless steel watch and aluminium LTE versions.

 

[Macalway]

USB-C on iPad, unlikely, although this would be great.

Just don't see it happening at this point.

(actually, what would be great is TB3 )

 

[yesjam]

They included a MagSafe adapter with their display when they changed it way back in the day; I assume they could just throw another adapter in the box.

Could be, but also it would be such an inelegant solution. Plus, cue all the jokes about dongles/adapters

 

[iReality85]

anyone else wondering if USB-C in new iPad pros means a new Apple Pencil? because they really push fast charging that pencil through the iPad, but that won't be possible anymore... (not that it was good design to begin with, but carrying that little lighting adaptor is a hassle)

The Apple Pencil should have had a female USB-C port to begin with. That way if your pencil is low on battery life, you can just use a cable, plug it in to the iPad, and you're still able to use it.

Why they chose a male Lightning connector for the pencil is beyond me.

 

[Dave-Z]

Could be, but also it would be such an inelegant solution. Plus, cue all the jokes about dongles/adapters

Apple seems to like dongles lately... I was just commenting that they have done something similar in the past.

Personally, I think they're just changing the (charging) brick from USB-A to USB-C.

 

[Dave245]

I wonder when these products will release? It says 2018 but Kuo doesn’t say what products will be announced/released at Wednesdays event.

 

[pappkristof]

And where is the new iMac?

 

[AppleFan91]

iPhones will ship with a 5W still!? C’mon Apple, it’s 2018 and you’re charging $1,000+ for these phones and you can’t include a faster charger?

 

[Smeaton1724]

It most probably is the charging lead and plug bundled with the iPads, so a USB-C plug and a lightning to USB-C cable. iPads will still be lightning.

 

[dmylrea]

Who cares about USB-C on iPhone? That just means I need to buy new/more cables and that I get to trash all my lightning cables and adapters that I have already spent money on? I, like most iPhone owners, don't have a Macbook. But if I did, I know I'd have a bag of adapters and cables to interface the USB-C port on the Macbook to the rest of the world, so where is the convenience?

Switching to USB-C on iPad is also a pain, because then i'll need two cables (or an adapter) to charge my iPhone and new iPad. Ugh.

 

[Dave-Z]

Switching to USB-C on iPad is also a pain, because now I need two cables (or an adapter) to charge my iPhone and new iPad.

I agree. I'd like USB-C on the iPad if it can use USB keys. Otherwise, yeah, let's stick with lightning because I want a single cable running across my desk.

 

[Glideslope]

Spot on with the 6'1". Once the "Delay" ends giving the high margins devices time to sell it will easily be 65-70% of new iPhone sales. Then we will see how serious Apple is on increasing Market Share. Will they have/want capacity to meet demand on the 6.1"? Will they force people to a Xs with continuous backlogs on 6.1" shipments? Will people go with an 8 to pay less for a still outstanding device? Many unknowns. I hope Tim is finally getting the "Market Share Thing" down.

 

[midkay]

Would ECG for the watch dramatically improve heart rate readings? I’m very interested in what they have to say about this. The current optical HR sensor definitely seems finicky in terms of accuracy and ability to get a reading when you’re moving about. Sometimes on a run or bike I won’t get a reading for minutes, or it’ll read my HR as being half of what it should be, etc. Would love a more reliable sensor that isn’t so thrown off by movement.

 

[tridley68]

Great, no bundled fast charger on new iPhones.

Should, at the very least, be bundled with the OLED iPhones.

Not likely they would miss the chance to sell us another $20 dollar adaptor.

 

[powaking]

I agree. I fear at the idea that someone walks by and snaps the pencil charger connector as its getting charged up in my ipad. Having it the other way while connected to the cable makes more sense.

The Apple Pencil should have had a female Lightning port to begin with. That way if your pencil is low on battery life, you can just use a cable, plug it in to the iPad, and you're still able to use it.

Why they chose a male connector for the pencil is beyond me.

 

[Breaking Good]

iPad will switch to USB-C connector. Everything else (iPhone, Air Pods, Apple Watch, Apple Pencil) will charge on the new Air Pad charging mat.

Lightening connector will be left for now. But will eventually be removed when charging mats become more commonplace which will leave the iPhone with no ports.

Apple will no longer ship iPhones with the 3.5mm dongle.

 

[azentropy]

this is misunderstood , they will change to usbc from usbA, thats all

That is my thought. It is the adapter that is changing to usb-c, not the charge port on the iPad itself. Guess we will see in a couple of days.

 

[Techwatcher]

It most probably is the charging lead and plug bundled with the iPads, so a USB-C plug and a lightning to USB-C cable. iPads will still be lightning.

How are you saying something so “matter of fact”, when you wouldn’t know?

 

[Zord]

Surprised, during Apple keynotes.

This!

 

[Baymowe335]

As someone who wears a continuous glucose monitor, I can tell you, we will not have non-invasive continuous glucose monitors (CGM) anytime soon. The technology for a CGM has just recently become good enough to use reliably. These reliable models are all invasive. Optical CGMs are a LONG way away. I wish I were wrong, but I just don't see this happening on a watch before the end of the decade.

I thought there were already proof of concept light sensors that worked as far back as like 2016. Guess mass tech takes a while.

 

[DNichter]

Sounds good to me. Can't wait for the new iPad Pro's.

 

[markfc]

Any word on glucose monitoring?

At least 5 years away...

 

[deuxani]

Not a chance in hell Apple replaces Lightning on the iPad. It doesn't make sense: if I were traveling with all updated Apple products I would need a Lightning cable for my iPhone and a USB-C cable for my iPad. Why?!
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Don't forget all the Apple accessories have Lightning ports: Magic Mouse/Keyboard, AirPods, Beats, etc. It makes no sense to switch the iPad to USB-C.

Do you think Apple makes any sense at all recently? Look at this travel package:

• MacBook: USB-C to USB-C
• Previous gen iPhone as work phone: USB-A to Lightning
• iPhone XS: USB-C to Lightning
• iPad: USB-A to Lightning
• Apple Watch: USB-A to wireless charging puck
• AirPods: USB-A to Lightning
• Apple pencil: Lightning port

Think about charging all these devices at night in a hotel room and what kind of mess that would be cable and adapter wise! At least moving one more device to USB-C is slowly getting to a standard. The MacBook and iPad are on a similar path, so for them to share the same I/O would make sense.

 

[gnomeisland]

Not a chance in hell Apple replaces Lightning on the iPad. It doesn't make sense: if I were traveling with all updated Apple products I would need a Lightning cable for my iPhone and a USB-C cable for my iPad. Why?!
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Don't forget all the Apple accessories have Lightning ports: Magic Mouse/Keyboard, AirPods, Beats, etc. It makes no sense to switch the iPad to USB-C.

The wording is a little ambiguous. My guess would that the new iPad Pros will support the full suite of USB-C protocols over lightning.

So with a USB-C to lightning cable you'd get the same functionality as a USB-C cable. Lightning (and to a degree, USB-C) is more a physical/connection standard and not a cabling standard in the traditional sense. Just like USB-C can support a variety of alternate modes, Lightning can be expanded to support different protocols over the same cable. Like iPads quietly bumping up from USB 2.0 to USB 3.0 over Lightning.

My dream would be an iPad with both.