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If apple starts to put software on the PC, I may just switch to linux. Why? I need to be different but more importantly it goes 100% against apples Make Hardware and Software philosophy.
I think it is just because Apple is making OS X for iPhones, iPods, and macs.
 
Well, this is about the most far out rumor I've heard so far.

In other words, NO. Not a snowball's chance in hell. I'll eat my hat.

HEAR HEAR!!!!!

lordy, when i read that I almost believed it. if Apple did that, it would have to be good to compete against Windows on the PC. It would also open up a lot of issues, game wise, application wise, system wise, hardware wise etc. OS X "PC" wouldn't just have 11 point updates, it would end up with something like Windows XP's deluded "Patch Tuesday" with (eg.) "10.7.444" by the time 10.8 is released or something.

I am basing the "Patch Tuesday" and the "444" on the amount of Windows Vista and XP updates that were rudely belched at me from Windows Update tonight. And as for the whole OS X on PC rumour, personally, I think it was a wannabe who wanted to generate flames or even some attention/fame.


Vent ended

Cheers!

allbrokeup.
 
Well I for one realy doesnt hope apple will do this, but if they continue to grow the way the way it does now, it might even be necesary. The laws on having monopoly is pretty heavy and apple has already had to defend their platform on attacks from people not liking how closed they are. There hav actually been mumblings about this the last 2 years in the eu parliament, just as it has with microsoft. It might be that apples enourmous growth is actually their own worst enemy. As I said I dont want it to happen but I can see it coming.
 
i seriously doubt this will happen, but it would be interesting to say the least.


I wouldnt mind if there was a licensing system so manufacturers who want to pursue markets Apple can't be bothered with can fill the gaps. If Apple can dictate what the platform has to contain spec-wise then we'd have reliability still.. I'm not sure it'd be a good idea, and yeah - its exactly what they did during the clone situation before, but just because it failed once doesn't mean it always would.

That way they'd have allies against upstarts like Psystar too, as they'd be eating into license holder's money.
 
This is not going to happen. Period.

The reason they don't refer to it as Mac, is that they're trying to convey that the OS X in the iPhone is the same as Leopard, but they can't refer to Mac, since the iPhone is not a Mac. They want to establish OS X as a platform, rather than just a PC OS. Don't forget, not only does the iPhone run OS X, but so does the AppleTV.

Apple's stock price would crash (remember, its only just recovered), and Steve Jobs would be fired if OS X was available for any PC.

The reason they're using "Snow Leopard" as the name, is to show that its not a totally major update to OS X, but it is an improved version of Leopard. If this is the case, it should be free to all Leopard owners in my opinion, although, knowing how greedy Apple are, I doubt that would happen
 
It seems to me that Apple has been spreading itself too thin for a while now.

Leopard only just seems to have found its feel with 10.5.3, the iPhone undoubtedly must take responsibility for this (however much I love it).

Maybe they could do it and succeed... But I for one hope this isn't going to happen! Didn't Jobs say Apple has three businesses and a hobby (or something)? This would make it 3 businesses, a hobby, and an unecessarily complex open marketplace battle with Microsoft.
 
Now I may rabble on a bit but please forgive / correct me if im wrong, BUT, at one point apple was running 2 OS's The Apple II os and the Macintosh OS (Mac OS 1.0?). the apple 2 then died out and the macintosh platform die out leaving the macintosh platform (read OS) to grow thrive and prospour. The Origional macintosh's OS was refered to as the macintosh OS because it was the OS that ran the macintosh. The Macintosh's OS was updates over the years becoming version 2 ect. through to 9, it's where apples computers term Mac'. Apple (pre mac pro ect.) did noy make Mac hardware, they made Apple hardware that became Macs when loaded with whatever version of the Macintosh OS, its just kind of beside the point that at the time you wern't able to install another OS. Now, when OSX came along, thats when (in my mind anyway) it stopped being an update of the origional Macintosh OS and became a whole new thing and had Mac added to the front of the name on the Box. Mac OS8 only had the Mac bit on it because someone alse already had a product called OS8 and were not best chuffed with apple taking their limelight (previous Macintosh operating systems were just OS6, OS7 ect).

The box For 10.0 and 10.1 just said OSX & OSX.1 on the cover, later ones only had a Giganto X on, but people still called it Mac OSX. Then to clarify things apple Rebranded all ther Apple computers as Mac's, Eliminating the "its a mac because it runs Mac OS" argument. And thats whole rant above is probably something to do with why the EULA says you cant install it on non apple hardware and NOT you cant install it on non macintosh computers. </rant>
 
I'd be for this. I'd much rather have OSX on my PC's than XP (Vista doesn't even come into it).
 
Apple can't / won't even drum up any graphics card support for their own Mac Pro. Imagine that speed of delivery and divide it by 1000 and you'll have OS X: PC Edition
 
sad:(

it all makes sense... but damn it ! NOOOOOOOOOO!

It would be the perfect time..... All these people with vista on there computers will want to install OS X. Apple is jumping on windows huge mistake! This blows though.... i always liked the fact that the hardware and software were so tight nit. Thats one thing that has always set apple apart from the rest.


I wish they wouldn't do it, but understand there growth potential by doing so.... so sad!
 
I really hope they don't do this. I don't think they will though anyway. The beauty of Apple and OS X is that they only need to code for a very small selection of hardware profiles unlike Windows which needs to be able to work with everything. The more time spent developing decent hardware support for all possible breeds of PCs would mean less time improving OS X on the whole and more room for bugs. I know OS X is already pretty good at using different hardware, however, anyone that's tried OS X on a hackintosh will know its not quite that simple and often needs quite a few workarounds.

If it came out on all PCs then sure, they would get more people buying OS X, however, they would lose hardware sales and OS X would become more of a target for virus writers etc.

Right now Apple is in a really good position. They have a fantastic market share in the high end (and high profit) computer market. Why would they want to lose this?
 
and an unecessarily complex open marketplace battle with Microsoft.

Apart from the fact Microsoft have never had to compete in an open market, they've nearly always had a nice, cosy, entrenched monopoly position.

I wouldn't rule it out ever, but at the moment I think it is too much, too soon. When they are trying to establish a new platform with iPhone, it seems very ambitious.

That said, Apple have never been so healthy and they may see this (with all these new developers at WWDC and mindshare in the media) as the opportune moment which they may not get again.

Most of their get a mac adverts have had less to do with get a mac and have been very focused on a single point: Vista is bad.

It doesn't matter if you agree with it, the point has been conveyed very successfully by Apple.

So if Vista is bad then what do you do? Well you look for alternatives, that's what you do. What better than Linux? Well Linux is good and getting stronger on the Desktop, but still requires some level of technical intuition to install (this is changing rapidly with each new release).

That's not really the problem though. The main problem with Linux is distribution. Unless you are tech savvy you aren't going to look online and find the OS that is right for you, download it, burn to DVD and then install it and then transfer all your files and settings across.

Now who has over 200 stores worldwide and is expanding all the time?. Who has staff who can handle all the tricky stuff for you (install, dual boot). And who has staff who can train you in using the new OS? Apple Retail shouldn't be underestimated in how important a role it could play.

My big problem is all those business and support contracts are literally a cash cow for Microsoft. They've worked hard to get those and they are long standing agreements. That's where they make most of their money, not on people going in the store and buying retail boxes containing Windows. All these contacts and contracts can't easily be emulated and Apple doesn't have the business infrastructure to do it.

So I would be surprised, but like I said anything is possible. It's the sort of thing Apple would do. It would be interesting experiment even if they just partnered with: Asus, HP, Sony and Dell. That's four companies that would hugely increase the installed base.

Certainly those companies would give their right arm (and possibly leg too) in order to offer Apple's software (dispute it all you like, I'm sticking with it). The question is would Apple keep their side of the bargain. Has Apple finally learnt to make good partnerships?
 
Impossible...

Considering that "Joining Forstall atop the Apple's management team is Bob Mansfield, who was named the company's Senior Vice President of Mac Hardware Engineering.." Why would the create a SVP for a business area that they would throw away by making OS X available to anyone?

Some people need to grow a brain.

Hickman
 
Nah, I give a 99% that Apple will not offer their OSX to generic PC cause no matter what you do, even remove some of the features, it will hurt the Mac market badly.

Most people wont see the point into owning a Mac anymore beside its look.

Beside this, Apple once did allow their OS to run on Generic PC, but it was a really bad idea, it makes consumers happy but hurt them badly.

Anyway I will still go by my saying that, I run hackintosh on my PC for fun, and although it has OS X in it, it never give me the Mac experience, heck I dont even like the looks of OSX with PC.
 
I would construct some kind of rudimentary lathe and then just gnaw my feet off. Not happening.

Apple's move of OS X to PCs, should they all get drunk and decide that's what to do, should go like this...

Apple continues to make Macs. Duh.
Apple releases OS X for PCs, a stripped-down version of OS X that can't run iLife or iWork. It can also only run the Express versions of Pro Apps.
Apple rewrites the EULA to state that there is absolutely NO support for any non-Apple branded hardware (upgrades TO Macs are still fine). In essence, stating that any incompatibilities with your PCs hardware are your fault. If it doesn't even work on your hardware to start, it's also your fault.
Apple never updates it for compatibility, just stability.
As time progresses, the casual user market-roughly 65% of all Windows users-realize that OS X rocks the house and for most of them, their next computer is a Mac.
I don't expect the gamers to switch. The Pros, however...

Eventually, Windows becomes a niche OS, just as OS X once was, but only for gaming. I'd give it six years.

What do you think? Keeps to Apple ideology fairly well...
 
Yes, they will do it ! OS X Leopard - on PC

Well, seems that a lot of people say: they won't do it... but maybe !

I say Apple will do it ! But, they will do it in a more controlled manner than the Microsoft-Windows monopoly does it. Apple will make their OS more Intel friendly, get rid of the PowerPC code and make OS X the ultimate portable OS. That is why we start to hear about OS X 10.6. So, starting with January 2009, Apple wil have a certification program for hardware vendor and the specs of the required hardware will be much more restricted.

For a developer, this will be a huge opportunity and they will feel at home: on the Mac, on the iPhone and starting in january 2009 on the PC...

All the piece seems to fall well into place.

A landmark event in more than one way.... Hummm
 
Yes, Make it the number one platform now

I think this will happen. They probably will still sell as many Macs and iPhone is a new revenue. It is time to release it to select partners and then open it up to everyone in a few more years. I would prefer OS X to be the new mainstream platform and Windows XP will be used to run 1990's software under VMWare.

Microsoft had a good run. It is time for them to focus on just developing Apps, XBox, and their Live subscription services in the cloud.
 
Rubbish. Mac sales are healthy and growing faster than the PC industry as a whole - that is, the Mac is gaining market share. At some point, if OSX is popular enough, Apple will have to allow other OEMs to install it, in order to keep the market competitive. That time is not now, though.

Besides, Apple gains customers by the fact that Macs can run Windows, yet PCs cannot run OSX.
 
Gosh, I'm not sure how to feel about this.

Would this be good for my vocation? Probably not. Just because you could run OS X on a cheap piece of **** like a Lenovo, doesn't mean companies will. I think a switch of this magnitude would only effect the consumer market in the short term. Eventually that might trickle over into the enterprise market.

Beyond that.. I like knowing what hardware (more or less) I'm looking at when someone has troubles with Mac OS X. One of the Microsoft's downfalls (IMO) is their benevolent willingness to support any old hardware out there (old and new), contributing significantly to the bloat. I don't wish Apple to slip into the same creek without a paddle.

I guess I've made up my mind. I don't want Apple to start selling Mac OS X for regular PC hardware.
 
Not going to happen. Apple is not going to abandon the need for their hardware! Remember when Steve reminded all that the secret to great software was to also make the hardware that it operates on?

No way will Apple throw away their majority profit area which is hardware, in order to sell OSX to operate on cheap pc's! Just not gonna happen and I say thank God!

This would just place Apple into the same situation as MS and that is trying to make an OS work on every piece of hardware out there. Not good!

Simply put NO WAY!--))) :rolleyes:
 
The first thing I thought of when I saw this was a thread I was reading the other day where an analyst said there was a 50/50 chance of something happening and everyone was debating what that meant...

I'm gonna go out on a limb and classify this rumor as having 0% chance of happening (not a 50/50 chance of happening)!
 
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