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This is worth mentioning again. ios is too limiting. having a bigger screen is not enough to entice android users to switch to ios.

automation, access to file system, ability to attach any file, use the storage in any way one pleases, not being tied to special software etc are just few of many reasons power users will not switch platform.

And what percentage of Android users are "power users"? My guess is not many.
 
I've been using both iOS and Android, and honestly... after about a month with 6+.. I can't wait for the Nexus 6 !!

As a tech enthusiast, with no fanboyism to any company, the current iPhone is akin to a dumb phone compared to the likes of Note 4 and Nexus 6 out of the box!

I can't see myself buying a Windows computer [ nothing really wrong with Windows, just a personal preference ] over the Mac in the foreseeable future, but when it comes to phones.. iOS needs a major overhaul in terms of UI and functionality!!

Of course..all this is my opinion.

If your so much into tech as you think you are. Just Jail break the phone and voila... You'll get a fun phone to play on. See, solved all your problems.
 
What is a tech enthusiast and what do they do with their phones that the rest of us don't?
 
And what percentage of Android users are "power users"? My guess is not many.

More, like in everything, like to THINK they are...

I remember that Nokia slide phone they used on the Matrix. People that 'had to have it' were all like 'I'm Morpheus' or 'I'm Nero', and it was embarrassing...
 
I have a Nexus4, but didn't see anything compelling enough about the iP6 to consider switching back to an iOS device. If I needed a new phone right now, it would be the Nexus5... tons of bang for the buck and no contract.

I just bought a refurb iP5 for my wife to replace her long-in-the-tooth 3GS... again, lots of bang for the buck and no contract.

I'm done being debt-slaved to AT&T with their contract phones and see little or no value in spending "more than a Mac Mini" money on a mobile phone.
 
First of all, my own anecdotal experience in picking up both a 6 (for the wife) and a 6+ for me on two separate trips to two different retailers (AT&T for the 6 and Apple Store for the 6+), we witnessed four different unrelated Android switchers take place.

Of the 4 cases of people switching from Android (I can't say what brand or models they were leaving), we didn't hear questions related to worries of their being "only" 1gb of ram in the iPhones, and none of these people (3 men and 1 woman) seemed to have anything but a general sense for how their Android phones worked, based upon the questions they were asking about how to move things from their Android device to the iPhone.

In the same way that people on these forums are really just a subset of a narrow population of Apple enthusiasts, with an even narrower subset of Apple haters, as the article states, the survey numbers were really too low to be considered representative of the overall population. And to base their report on just the first 30 days, then doesn't take into consideration supply constraints on the 6+, which would have limited the ability of switchers (and existing iPhone users) to even have the ability to choose a 6+.

If I had to toss out some claims about iPhone vs Android, I'd say that there are some people who own Android or iPhone just because, some who would never switch from iPhone to Android or Android to iPhone, and some who will jump on getting whatever is new / different, regardless of brand. Also, non-tech people who have bought into the Apple ecosystem are more likely to stay in the Apple ecosystem because it's easier for them to do so. Conversely, it's actually easier for those on Android to switch to iOS / OS X because Android does NOT have the same all-encompassing ecosystem that Apple has created.

When I see reports like this, it's easy to assume the authors are trying to show that Apple has not gotten the switchers they forecast, and the fact that they didn't use a representative number of people polled and we can't even say if they chose the 300 people from one area or even one store, to know whether regional differences or product availability played into the conclusion they're making.

I'll call it a sloppy anecdotal story, not unlike my own experiences. I didn't note that in both of my own cases of getting new 6's, I was the only person around that got a 6+. AT&T didn't have any and when I went to the Apple store, the 6+ I got was the only delivered 6+ they had gotten that morning. In both cases, it was within the initial 30 day launch.
 
having hade the nexus 5 for sometime i must say that android is not that far behind. inconsistent and confusing at times but it does the job. and i got a 5" with smaller footprint than the iphone 6 4.7". i've tested the iphone + for two weeks now and for my needs it is simply too big. so i will purchase the iphone 6 instead.

i can understand android users that it's not that big of a deal or difference. pretty much like windows vs mac. i hope apple will continue selling 4", 5" and 5,5/6" in the future.

my dream is to have an ultraslim 4" nano iphone and a 5,5" for different contexts. when working/business/travelling 5,5" is perfect. for clubbing, bar, party etc 4" is perfect. they will be synced anyhow so i simply choose the one for the occasion.
 
I have a Nexus4, but didn't see anything compelling enough about the iP6 to consider switching back to an iOS device. If I needed a new phone right now, it would be the Nexus5... tons of bang for the buck and no contract.

I just bought a refurb iP5 for my wife to replace her long-in-the-tooth 3GS... again, lots of bang for the buck and no contract.

I'm done being debt-slaved to AT&T with their contract phones and see little or no value in spending "more than a Mac Mini" money on a mobile phone.

AT&T locks even unlocked phones that are on their system. Which should garner them a class action lawsuit, but...
 
Not suprising

You have to interpret the data correctly to understand this...
at first glance, looks like bad news, however, I suspect if you look at the SHEER NUMBERS of phone, it is still a huge number.

of course old iPhone users want a new big screen, not a surprise.

if you look at shipped phones in the period 2014 compared to 2013, if you look at the shipped phones, then find out the # of phones switched from android, that number is going to be bigger than in 2013.
 
The title is misleading. iPhone 6 sales were more than expected, so if for example they were expecting 10m sales, of which 2m were Android, then that would be a 20% expectation. However, if sales were actually 15m, with 2.5m Android customers, the share would be less than expected (17%), but the actual number would be greater.

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You have to interpret the data correctly to understand this...
at first glance, looks like bad news, however, I suspect if you look at the SHEER NUMBERS of phone, it is still a huge number.

of course old iPhone users want a new big screen, not a surprise.

if you look at shipped phones in the period 2014 compared to 2013, if you look at the shipped phones, then find out the # of phones switched from android, that number is going to be bigger than in 2013.

Another thing to keep in mind is that the number of iPhone switchers to new iPhone will ALWAYS be much higher than the previous year for the foreseeable future, because the people who bought iPhones 2 years ago were greater in number than those who bought them 3 years ago.
 
Your statement is so massively biased that its laughable. BTW, I have tried and used Androids... Mostly for work. And your statement is ludicrous.

BTW, most surveys says Apple users are very very loyal. So, there are very few switches to Android, most switchers go the other way. With the larger screen, there is even less reason to switch to Android. Only price remains and Apple is not going to go down market so yes, those people will go to Android...

Well thanks to your post now we're both laughing.

It falls down to user experience and choice of handset maker, currently you can't go wrong with the top tier Android smartphones. For each their own.
 
If your so much into tech as you think you are. Just Jail break the phone and voila... You'll get a fun phone to play on. See, solved all your problems.

I shouldn't have to JB for some basic features in this day and age... Ultimately, I'd like an iPhone-like-build with Android L as the OS.

Having played briefly with the Nexus 6, I can see that coming to fruition.
 
Well thanks to your post now we're both laughing.

It falls down to user experience and choice of handset maker, currently you can't go wrong with the top tier Android smartphones. For each their own.

What's the top tier of Android handset makers? How many of the top tier have released Android Lollipop to their older phones?

The only phones which have received updates so far is 1 Moto phone, and some Nexus phones.

How many of the top tier will be updating phones they sold 2 years ago?
 
I feel like these statistics could be very misleading. There may very well be more Android buyers this year than last year, even if they make up a smaller percentage this year than last, just because there are more buyers period.
 
I know plenty of people on Android who are going to switch to the 6... they are just on a contract. Why don't we wait a year or so before we look at statistics like this?
 
THE FIRST 30 DAYS!!! You virtually had to get a gun and do battle to get an iphone 6+ in that time. Only the real Apple diehards were going to sit up at 2am and fight with a web screen for an hour to get an iphone. The casual Android user who hates Android didn't even find out about the new iPhone 6 within 30 days.

The Android rush is coming. It'll be starting right about now that availability is good and they don't have to compete with all the Apple diehards.
 
And finally, iPhone 6/6+ sales are still supply constrained.

The people who are going to buy a phone and wait for weeks are likely to be existing users who always knew they were getting an iPhone. The Android switchers are more likely to buy when they can walk out of the store with the phone.

The survey may be accurate. However, many of the conclusions being drawn out are not valid.
 
I would add a third group: The mother/father of a young kid that is 'helping' their parent pick out 'the perfect phone for you mom/dad', and sticks them with an Android phone. I've talked to many since the 'droid' phones first came out. They complain that the features are overwhelming, and every time their child touches it, they change something and make it harder to use it.

Then they ask what I use, and I show them, and they practically drool over it and one person went back and told their kid they wanted an iPhone,and the kid went all fascist on them and told them they will take the Android, or nothing. YIKES!:eek:

I still, rightly or wrongly, lump the iPhone into the 'Devices That Work' category. Sure, there are more ways to 'bling up' the Android phones, and you don't have the specter of Steve Jobs telling you what you can install on it, but I personally do not see them as being very secure, especially in the hands of an undereducated pre-senile oldster who could click on any URL that pops up on their phone and install any number of nefarious apps.

Good story, funny and cool
 
THE FIRST 30 DAYS!!! You virtually had to get a gun and do battle to get an iphone 6+ in that time. Only the real Apple diehards were going to sit up at 2am and fight with a web screen for an hour to get an iphone. The casual Android user who hates Android didn't even find out about the new iPhone 6 within 30 days.

The Android rush is coming. It'll be starting right about now that availability is good and they don't have to compete with all the Apple diehards.

yeah you are right and s is CNBC
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102178579?trk...tack:topnews:3

Expect about 19% of samsung users to switch to the iPhone 6 before the years end..
 
cwwilson said:
1GB RAM.

This is probably the biggest reason.

I don’t believe that’s much of a factor.

If you surveyed across a wide demographic of Android users - like the kind I see out and about (not some sampling of users from a tech site), the majority would have _zero_ idea about RAM, its effect (or lack of), why is good/bad.

I think it’s timing, availability and most importantly ... indifference.

Several of my relatives have Android phones, and I’ve actually asked them why they chose them, and they mostly don’t have a really specific answer, it’s usually something in the “It looked cool”, “It was cheaper”, “It had a bigger screen”, “The salesman said it was the best”.

A few of those same folks I’ve asked about iPhone 6 upgrades and they kind of just don’t care, they’re currently able to shoot photos, email, text, post a Facebook update, play a few games. They wound up with an Android phone, it works, end of story. No factoring in RAM, CPU cores, etc. :)
 
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