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It's the OS.

You're not going to get most of them to give up functionality once they've gotten used to having it.

Yup thats true. I initially switched to an Android Nexus 5 only for a temporary period. I sold my Iphone 5 in May 2014, and had planned to get the Iphone 6 when it came out. That was the plan atleast. While used the nexus 5 for those months, i realized i was able to do so much more stuff with it, than with IOS. Keep in mind im a pretty technical person so maybe thats why i found Android to be more to my liking. Sure IOS is awesome in its own ways but I do really enjoy Androids freedom.
So i've decided to stay with the Nexus 5 for now. Looking forward to Iphone 7, not the 6S.
 
I might have gotten an iPhone 6, but after what most companies would consider a horrible rollout, Apple still hasn't fully admitted they did anything wrong and I just can't tolerate a company in that much denial. There is a design flaw in the iPhone 6 Plus that needs to be addressed,

Bendgate was a fabrication (let's not get into a debate, we'll agree to disagree) but it may have impacted sales. To what degree we'll never know. I admit I was nervous until more info came out and then got one in my hands.

But you might want to rethink your definitions of "horrible rollout": Apple Q4 2014 earnings: revenue surges on huge iPhone 6 sales

Apple's profit for that quarter was about 50% of Google's revenue. There is not a company on the planet (or even a comet) that would refuse those numbers.

and their OS quality control is non-existent.

This is sadly true. I'm quite disgusted with iOS 8.x and the glitches. I've mostly enjoyed Yosemite though, and the most recent iOS security hole being reported does not apply to at least 95% of users, and of those it could possibly affect there is still a very, very low probability, so let's keep things in perspective.

Not saying Google hasn't dropped the ball on Lollipop as well, but for the time being I think most people are going to stick with what they have until both these companies stop treating their customers like beta users and crash test dummies, and that means no exodus from Android to Apple for another product generation at least.

I don't think there will ever be a mass exodus one way or the other. Honestly, I got an iPhone 6+ without really considering a large screened Android because I've been inside Apple's ecosystem since I bought an iPod Nano 8 years ago, which led to an iPod Touch which is when they really got their hooks into me. It's been all downhill since then: Macs, Apple TVs, several iPhones, registered :apple: developer, iPods for christmas for the kids this year... hell I even bought my first iTunes movie a few days ago (something I never thought I'd do).

Google doesn't have as much lock-in as Apple, but there is still the factor of what you're used to and where you keep your (digital) stuff. Also, there is honestly a bit of a barrier to entry into :apple:World. I wouldn't be surprised if a large % of Android to iPhone switchers are unhappy.
 
I would have led the article with this: "It is important to note that CIRP gathered its data from just 300 Apple customers who purchased an iPhone in the 30 days following the device's September 19 launch." Waaaay to small of a sample size.
 
We should also not overlook the fact that it's still damn near impossible to find a 6 Plus in stock anywhere.

Was goofing around in the local Sam's store this morning and they had two Gold ATT 64GB iP6+ in stock. Too bad, as I'm looking for a SG 64GB iP6.
 
CIRP? What and Who is CIRP?

Is CIRP independent or are they paid puppets spreading negativity about Apple?

I'd trust UBS's insight, but not this official sounding "CIRP" outfit.

I took 2 minutes to see what "CIRP" has had to say about Apple in the last few years - anything positive? Nope. OK - so have they ever been right a out anything? I'm still researching this CIRP. lol.

http://www.electronista.com/article...or.iphone.6.models.plus.to.be.a.hit.in.china/
 
...CIRP gathered its data from just 300 Apple customers who purchased an iPhone in the 30 days following the device's September 19 launch. A survey encompassing 300 customers is a very small sample size relative to the number of people who have purchased one of Apple's new devices...

Enough said. It might be close to the truth. It might be far from it.
Move on – nothing to see here.
 
CIRP? What and Who is CIRP?

Is CIRP independent or are they paid puppets spreading negativity about Apple?

I'd trust UBS's insight, but not this official sounding "CIRP" outfit.

I took 2 minutes to see what "CIRP" has had to say about Apple in the last few years - anything positive? Nope. OK - so have they ever been right a out anything? I'm still researching this CIRP. lol.

http://www.electronista.com/article...or.iphone.6.models.plus.to.be.a.hit.in.china/

UBS say good things of Apple, then they are reliable and serious.

I think CIRPS says negative things of Apple (they don't), the CIRP is evil

Are you people for real or do you really don't see how ridiculous you sound?
 
They'll come around. A lot of them just think "Apple sucks" when the've mostly never used an iPhone before. Samsung has a few decent fragmented products, but the overall Apple experience is way better, and getting better every year.
 
Not surprising. I wouldn't give up using the Nexus 5 for the iphone 6 even though the iphone 6 is newer, faster, and thinner. Its all about the OS, not the hardware.
 
Not a big deal. Android users get to use what makes them happy, and iOS users get to use what makes them happy too.

Yep I don't know why this is so difficult for some people to fathom. Apple's making more than 80% of the total profits coming from smartphone sales. They don't HAVE to have every statistic covered in order to be happy/successful.

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300-person sample size should have been written at the BEGINNING of the article...

Yeah uuuum... 300 people say this so it must be true/reflective of the millions of new iPhone users... right? :p
 
depends how they got their sample

There's very little way they could sample to make this representative. But, as I said, they wouldn't have too if all they're looking at is trends. The conclusion people take from the survey goes way broader than what the survey actually represents though; which is common.
 
They'll come around. A lot of them just think "Apple sucks" when the've mostly never used an iPhone before. Samsung has a few decent fragmented products, but the overall Apple experience is way better, and getting better every year.
From my experience its the other way around. Iphone users are generally the ones that have never used any other phones. I choose android, but I've used ios, wp8, and even blackberry 10.
 
UBS say good things of Apple, then they are reliable and serious.

I think CIRPS says negative things of Apple (they don't), the CIRP is evil

Are you people for real or do you really don't see how ridiculous you sound?

There is nothing bad per say in this. Unless we know how many IOS users upgraded and where and how the sample comes from. Only top end Android users would really switch to Apple (And only when their contract ends), that's less than 10% of the US market in a single year.

If half IOS users upgrade, the graph would look like that even if Apple is having a very good year and many Android users are switching.

You own heavy bias is shining though here.
 
There is nothing bad per say in this. Unless we know how many IOS users upgraded and where and how the sample comes from.

Percentage has nothing to do with how many bought, upgraded or switched.


Only top end Android users would really switch to Apple

Why?

If half IOS users upgrade, the graph would look like that even if Apple is having a very good year and many Android users are switching.

I think you have not gotten the survey and confusing percentages with absolute numbers

You own heavy bias is shining though here.

WTF? Are you projecting?

By the way, it is a sample size of 600 great enough?
 
In a saturated market these are the figures you'd expect. There is no mention of where this survey was conducted or even if the questions where posed in identical ways.

It's just non sense, the larger size has given a reason to upgrade regardless of what was used previously.
 
A final issue is that carriers are moving to a model that shows users the actual phone prices, and iPhones are expensive compared to a lot of Android phones. I also think Samsung's flagship phones may suffer somewhat because of this.

This is going to definitely have an impact. Customers can now see that their phones are in excess of $800 ($825 for an AT&T Note 4, $850 for a 6+ w/ 64 GB). That pushes the casual market towards lower end phones which is good for Android.

Hopefully the long-term impact is a reduction in prices in general. Sounds unlikely when I actually type it out.
 
Pointless survey. You need to look over the whole year to determine the real number of Android switchers.

Many Apple phone buyers are already on a fall upgrade cycle, so of course there would be more Apple buyers when a new iPhone comes out. Unless money is no object, most Android switchers wait until their contract is up. Smart money says switcher numbers Get stronger as more contracts expire over the next year.
 
That prediction was made in March, a lot happened since then. Google announced Android Lollipop with a fantastic new design and new developer tools. Some new great phones have become available, including even cheaper ones such as the OnePlus One.

Meanwhile, Apple botched the release of iOS 8, released two larger iPhones whose design wasn’t as well received as before, the 6 Plus is even more expensive than any iPhone before and Apple is still lousy with the prices of storage (measly 16 GB by default and $100 more for extra storage) and didn’t bother to increase the RAM either.

I think Android users are probably happy with what they have, can get and will get soon.
 
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