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...the survey numbers were really too low to be considered representative of the overall population. And to base their report on just the first 30 days, then doesn't take into consideration supply constraints on the 6+, which would have limited the ability of switchers (and existing iPhone users) to even have the ability to choose a 6+...

Yes, well put. Part of 'Lying With Statistics' is knowing that the average person will see the 'results' and accept them as fact without realizing that the 'results' can be so completely meaningless and useless because of the way that the survey was conducted, the questions they asked, the method used to compile the data, and other extenuating factors that were ignored by the survey takers.

Ignoring availability ads a big negative to this 'surveys' value.
 
6+ is going gangbusters in Japan. More tiny girls are using Pluses than guys because of Facebook and Instagram. They have gold or silver, no black. At least I haven't seen any girls with black iPhones. Only the guys.
 
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Apple also had to get realistic and figure out that probably what has driven away potential switchers is bendgate and a slew of security and quality control issues with iOS 8. I mean how arrogant can this company be to assume people will want to switch away from a stable and mostly secure OS and from a phone that is not prone to being bent in half, just to have the Apple logo in their pocket? Also who wants to buy a $1000+ phone that barely matches the feature set of what they already use?

I might have gotten an iPhone 6, but after what most companies would consider a horrible rollout, Apple still hasn't fully admitted they did anything wrong and I just can't tolerate a company in that much denial. There is a design flaw in the iPhone 6 Plus that needs to be addressed, and their OS quality control is non-existent. Not saying Google hasn't dropped the ball on Lollipop as well, but for the time being I think most people are going to stick with what they have until both these companies stop treating their customers like beta users and crash test dummies, and that means no exodus from Android to Apple for another product generation at least.
 
What's the top tier of Android handset makers? How many of the top tier have released Android Lollipop to their older phones?

The only phones which have received updates so far is 1 Moto phone, and some Nexus phones.

How many of the top tier will be updating phones they sold 2 years ago?

First tell me how great is iOS 8 experience on the iPhone 4s and iPad 2+ onwards .:)
 
From this thread, I can get a pretty good statistic of how many people who post on MacRumors forums flunked/didn't take/don't understand statistics, within a certain margin of error.

From that, the reporting media would call that percentage "people who technology blogs who don't understand statistics" and of course, that would be incorrect. It's more often that the reporting is incorrect and the data are spot on.

It's all about how you ask the questions and report the results, how you select the sample, and what margin of error you expect. Even with 10 points margin, one can still spot meaningful results unless there are only two possible responses and the results are relatively evenly split.

The article on Wikipedia is relatively comprehensive... could help some from making wildly inaccurate statements (but I doubt it would, this is MacRumors).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sample_size_determination

Exactly. Just after the 5s came out, I was in the local Apple Store for a problem with my iMac, and while I was standing there waiting for an hour for my iMac to emerge from the backroom, 'many' people came in with defective iPhones. Bad speakers, bad mics, no vibration, lines in the screen, etc...

Standing there and seeing 'many' people come in with bad iPhones, I *could* have made the assumption that the 'majority' of the 5s's were defective. I mean, there were 'a lot of people' there complaining about bad iPhones. But I was standing at the Genius Bar, where people go with bad iPhones. DUH!!! But a 'survey' showing those results and not telling the audience *where* the survey was taken would result in people with a really bad opinion of the quality of that device.
 
I switched from android to the 5s last year because Android was all big phones and I wanted a smaller phone with top of the line specs. I highly doubt I was alone.

The year, all the phones are big. If last year, the iphone was as big as this year, I would have stayed with Android. By making the phones bigger, Apple stopped frustrated iOS users who wanted bigger phones from going to Android, but they gave Android users one less reason to switch.
 
Who believes everything analysts say anyway? They're just guessing, albeit educated guessing, but guessing none the less.

...and Android is crap. ;)
 
Most important info at the end of the article...

I wonder why <cough> click bait <cough>?

What a crappy sampling. Who the hell is CIRP and why should I trust a company so lazy as they couldn't sample more than 300 buyers?
 
The real test is going to take place over the next 6 months, since this study only looked at the first 30 days after launch when only the true Apple faithful would be willing to wait in lines for hours or a month to get the phone in the mail.

Most android users would rather get a GS5 today than wait a month to get the new iPhone 6 Plus. But when supply catches up with demand and the 6 Plus is available in most stores side by side with the GS5, then I would bet you that many android buyers will purchase the 6 Plus.

Not necessarily, people wait months for the OPO. Mens favorite quote applies here too I think.

It is not the size alone that matters but also what you can do with it. Android devices aren't just bigger but you can customise them. All you got with the 6+ are more rows and columns.
 
First tell me how great is iOS 8 experience on the iPhone 4s and iPad 2+ onwards .:)

I used an iPhone 4 with iOS7. Admittedly 7.0 wasn't great, but 7.1 was in every way a much better experience than 6.0.

And it isnt even close when compared to what OS came installed on that phone.

Besides, if it wasn't great, I didn't need to install it. But I had the option and the choice.
 
"The vast majority of new iPhone buyers were already iPhone owners."
This has been a known fact since the iPhone was released.
Most iPhone users don't like change & like simplicity over unrestricted access to your phone.
They keep buying the SAME device every couple of years not expecting anything other than the SAME with a new UI. Apple likes this. :D
 
People look at screen size first and foremost. Those with Android phones don't switch to the iPhone b/c they see the iPhone 6 as inferior or the same as their current Android phone. Size, battery life, specs, the Android phones are all at least their equal, esp if you figure in the value proposition.

Before with the iPhone 5/5s, switching meant you wanted a truly different phone with better ergonomics. Now Android owners consider switching to be at best a lateral move, which is hardly a reason worth switching for.
 
I might have gotten an iPhone 6, but after what most companies would consider a horrible rollout, Apple still hasn't fully admitted they did anything wrong and I just can't tolerate a company in that much denial.

Lol, Bendgate?

Tell me, you don't live in West Africa, but also don't leave your apartment without a hazmat suit because you are worried about ebola, right?
 
Survey Taken Before Advent of Apple Pay, IOS 8.1

I think the killer app on iPhone 6 is Apple Pay. Having the ability to securely buy online with iPhone Apps and at Brick and Mortar stores with iPhones is revolutionary. Apple Pay is the app that will cause many of them to switch.

An IT guy I know is switching from an Android because of this.

Some of them will continue to use Google Wallet because Apple Pay is making NFC payments relevant. But it's a lot easier with

It took Apple Pay three days to register more transactions than all previous Mobile Payment solutions combined.

Prior to Apple Pay, NFC was being described as "Nobody F...Ing Cares" in the Mobile Payments space. I know of stores that were replacing their NFC terminals because of lack of usage.

Of course, Apple Pay is just getting started but I am impressed by the number of vendors and banks that are already working with it.

Apple is doubling its production capacity for the iPhone 6 in China because FoxConn can't handle it all. They underestimated the demand and the continuing demand. So it would be interesting to revisit this study in the near future.
 
Maybe if it weren't so highly priced...

I switched from a phone running Android to an iPhone 6 because it was priced about the same as flagship Android devices: Sony Experia Z3, LG G3, Galaxy Note/S5, HTC One M8, etc... Yes, some of those are cheaper but the iPhone 6 will have a better resale/trade-in value down the road if the past is an indication of the future.

I sometimes miss Android but I have no regrets about the purchase other than sometimes wishing I had purchased a 6+.
 
I think the killer app on iPhone 6 is Apple Pay. Having the ability to securely buy online with iPhone Apps and at Brick and Mortar stores with iPhones is revolutionary. Apple Pay is the app that will cause many of them to switch.

An IT guy I know is switching from an Android because of this.

Some of them will continue to use Google Wallet because Apple Pay is making NFC payments relevant. But it's a lot easier with

It took Apple Pay three days to register more transactions than all previous Mobile Payment solutions combined.

Prior to Apple Pay, NFC was being described as "Nobody F...Ing Cares" in the Mobile Payments space. I know of stores that were replacing their NFC terminals because of lack of usage.

Of course, Apple Pay is just getting started but I am impressed by the number of vendors and banks that are already working with it.

Apple is doubling its production capacity for the iPhone 6 in China because FoxConn can't handle it all. They underestimated the demand and the continuing demand. So it would be interesting to revisit this study in the near future.

Or how to live inside a bubble
 
Doesn't surprise me, the larger screen makes there be even less difference from android, so there's less incentive to switch. I'd guess a large majority of the android users switching to iOS are the ones who started out on iOS, and switched to android for the bigger screen and have now come back.
 
Thoughts of a Stats PhD

This is not the correct way to display the information you're trying to convey. By breaking down by previous ownership, you say very little about how many Android users converted compared to 2013. Here's why:

1. It's clear, as others have pointed out, that this was a major upgrade (5S->6 v. 5->5S), so disproportionately more iOS users upgraded this year compared to last year -- that shrinks your Android percentage metric even if more Android users converted this year, due to the sheer volume of iOS upgraders.

2. iOS users (like myself) are fans. We want to get this device ASAP. Android users might be more reluctant, and wait a few weeks to see reviews online and hear thoughts from friends (not to mention wait to check out the other Android phones that will be released in the remainder of the year), before making the decision to buy. Like others have said, you need a larger sample size, and over a larger timeframe (say, up to and including the holiday season).

3. This graph is just the wrong metric altogether. What you really want to show is a graph displaying (a sample of) all Android users who bought new phones in 2014, and what percentage of these were upgrades to iOS. If you compare this graph to the corresponding graph of 2013, (I would guess) you'll see that there is a much larger upgrade share to iOS this year compared to last year. If these two graphs end up being drastically different, that would be quite impressive considering that there were some amazing Android devices released this year as well.
 
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I shouldn't have to JB for some basic features in this day and age... Ultimately, I'd like an iPhone-like-build with Android L as the OS.

Having played briefly with the Nexus 6, I can see that coming to fruition.

So your telling me you bought a Iphone cash, since your buying your Nexus next year... Despite the fact you got EXACTLY what you knew you were getting you are here to talk about Android being better... OK.... Well, go ahead... And leave the forum too then, no need to hear about all that "good" Nexus experience here, there are forums for that.
 
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