Larger Redesigned High-End iMac Rumored to Launch Next Year

[Freida]

Because the panel itself from the XDR is not really the expensive bit. Its everything around it so it makes overall sense.
They choose 32" for XDR for a reason and 27iMac is meant to get bigger so its only logical to use the same panel and have the line simplified whilst saving money on the XDR and making bigger profit there (economy of scale).

Remember when 5K iMac arrived? That tech in other displays were more expensive than the iMac itself.

Anyway, thats just the way I see it. They could of course make 30" ACD replacement and for that reason the new iMac Pro would be 30" too but then XDR would be in a slightly weird spot.

What makes you think they can use the same panel? And why do you think they would use the panel from a 4999 display for a 1799 iMac?

When they increase the screen size from 21.5 to 23.5 it’s the same panel just cut larger. It’s not that much work to increase size.

 

[svish]

Hoping the bigger iMac will also come in colours

 

[BlueTide]

Ok, so just how long does it take to get a large, reasonable Apple screen onto my desk, either as a stand-alone-display or as a large iMac...

 

[BlueTide]

Anyway, thats just the way I see it. They could of course make 30" ACD replacement and for that reason the new iMac Pro would be 30" too but then XDR would be in a slightly weird spot.

To be fair, XDR is already in a weird spot. Heck, it's always been in a weird spot.

 

[fontman]

Apple's larger redesigned iMac will arrive sometime in 2022 rather than later this year, according to the leaker known as "Dylandkt."

On Twitter, Dylandkt claimed that Apple's "high end iMac" is not expected to release in the fourth quarter of 2021 alongside Apple's "M1X Macs" – a reference to Apple's redesigned MacBook Pro models – because "Apple simply does not want their devices to compete for attention and delays in product releases have led to this timetable."

In previous claims, Dylandkt has remained adamant that an "M1X" Apple silicon processor is destined for high-end "Pro" Macs, which could include the upcoming MacBook Pro models and a larger, more powerful iMac model. Apple is expected to release 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models at some point between September and November. Reputable Bloomberg journalist Mark Gurman has said he also expects the larger redesigned iMac to feature an M1X or M2X chip, but Gurman has stopped short of offering launch timing details.

Apple is known to be still developing a larger version of the iMac, but paused work on the larger version to launch the 24-inch iMac model earlier this year. If the larger version of the iMac uses an M1X or M2X chip, it will be a more powerful version of the M1 chip that's in the 24-inch iMac. The 27-inch Intel models that remain in Apple's lineup launched in August 2020, suggesting they are reaching the end of their production cycle.

A new larger ‌iMac‌ would likely ape several changes that debuted in the latest 24-inch model, such as a thinner overall design, studio-quality microphones, and of course more powerful Apple silicon processors replacing Intel.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1418606566043947012

Dylandkt has correctly predicted details about a number of Apple's recent product launches. As early as November 2020, the leaker claimed that the next-generation iPad Pro would feature an M1 chip, five months before the device emerged. Prior to the launch of the 24-inch ‌iMac‌ earlier this year, Dylandkt also correctly predicted that the new, redesigned ‌iMac‌ would replace the smaller entry-level ‌iMac‌ only and feature an ‌M1‌ chip rather than an M1X.

In other recent tweets, Dylandkt has claimed that new MacBook Air models powered by a not-before-seen "M2" chip will launch in the first half of 2022, and that Apple's LiDAR camera feature will only appear in the "Pro" variants of upcoming iPhone 13 models.

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[fontman]

I had wished Apple would have released a larger display iMac for the prosumer users. But seeing what they did to the 24 inch iMac and how they continue to remove functionality and upgradeability to reduce their overall service costs and overall support costs to increase profits and made it hard for me to move from the iMac I have now. I'm seriously considering ordering 100 PC for my production department as Apple is really dropped the ball here.

 

[wyarp]

Will it still be butt ugly? Surface Studio looks 1000x better...

Lol, the surface studio costs twice as much and looks like a brick.

 

[Realityck]

If this large iMac gets delayed and doesnt get released this year, then it's simply unacceptable. Tim Cook promised a two year transition and more than a year in, we've only just got one damn M1 chip and much of the Mac lineup is still waiting to be updated to Apple Silicon.

Your mistaken about this, its only been 9 months with the transition.
Per Apple M1 documentation the start of the transition is with the M1 announcement and first M1 products. Also please note the "about" two years from that time point.

Start of a Two-Year Transition for the Mac
M1 powers the new MacBook Air, 13-inch MacBook Pro, Mac mini, and 24-inch iMac. They join the rest of the Mac product line to form the strongest Mac lineup ever. This is the beginning of a transition to a new family of chips designed specifically for the Mac. The transition to Apple silicon will take about two years to complete and these systems are an amazing first step.

ref

https://www.apple.com/business/mac/pdf/Apple-at-Work-M1-Overview.pdf

 

[kpluck]

Will it still be butt ugly? Surface Studio looks 1000x better...

Some people's butt look better than others. I guess we now know where yours falls on the scale.

-kp

 

[Freida]

This post is really full of misconceptions and shows that you don't understand what is happening here.

Firstly, Tim Cook said 2 years but that 2 years didn't start at WWDC but it started with the first M1 release last fall.
Secondly, no, you can't just scale up current 24 as that would create a bad product overall. Maybe it would be ok for some tasks etc. but definitely not powerful enough for a lot. Let alone the fact that it would be replacing much better product.
Until M1X is ready then there will be no big iMac as that chip is needed. Its that simple.

So, we are not even at 1 year mark and no, we can't just scale up 24" iMac as is. We need different parts that are not ready yet. Ok?

If this large iMac gets delayed and doesnt get released this year, then it's simply unacceptable. Tim Cook promised a two year transition and more than a year in, we've only just got one damn M1 chip and much of the Mac lineup is still waiting to be updated to Apple Silicon. To think that the iMac, which was iconic and symbolises the Mac spirit, will take so long for an update....
And not to mention that the Intel version with 10th gen Intel is just getting so old

It's not that hard to simply scale the current 24" up to 32" and introduce some more premium features to it (like 6K screen, even better speakers etc).

 

[R3k]

Q. Will an upcoming iMac with an external thunderbolt enclose with 4 x SATA SSD’s have limited throughput compared to my current Gen Mac Pro with 4x SATA SSDs mounted on 2 PCIe cards?

 

[poked]

I’m very happy I ordered my iMac now versus later. No way in heck I’m waiting over a year for a computer with marginally better performance that’s probably starting at $2k for the base model.

 

[Zdigital2015]

Yes, Apple is going to release a “pro” iMac with a “pro” pricing structure. Glued in screen with soldered on RAM and SSD on a tiny, almost inaccessible logic board. The RAM upgrade to 128GB will cost more than the entire machine but users will be happy to pay for it, because “pro”.
Any hardware issue once your 3 year AppleCare warranty runs out and you are left with a “pro” paperweight.

The iMac has had a glued on screen for 9 years, what’s your point? Still upset about it? The DRAM and SSD have been soldered on in various forms one or the other since 2012. The teardown of the new 24” iMac shows that it’s more accessible to the Logic board than the older 21.5” and 27” models. Apple’s DRAM pricing has always been more expensive than it should be, but I’ll take the benefits of the UMA over the same old, same old any day. Very few customers are going to truly benefit from 128GB of DRAM including video editors, but please feel free to choose the most extreme example to illustrate your point.

As for repairs, Apple now lets you pay monthly on Macs and extend your AppleCare beyond the typical three years.

Sounds to me like you’re upset that Apple no longer makes an Intel slot box, which they haven’t since 2012. Stay on or get off, you have a choice to move to Windows…but Apple isn’t dong anything even remotely new or weird compared to the last almost decade of hardware development, so what is your point?

 

[Zdigital2015]

Q. Will an upcoming iMac with an external thunderbolt enclose with 4 x SATA SSD’s have limited throughput compared to my current Gen Mac Pro with 4x SATA SSDs mounted on 2 PCIe cards?

SATA SSDs are still limited to less than 600MB/s throughput which doesn’t begin to saturate PCIe 3.0 or even Thunderbolt 3, so I’m not sure what the concern is? Are you striping all 4 together? Even then you’re likely topping out at 2GB per second READ and WRITE speeds, which Thunderbolt 3 should handle just fine. Buy a 24” iMac and find out for yourself and return it before the 2 weeks is up or check out Bare Feats to see if they can test something like that out in the new iMac themselves. Are you processing RED RAW footage?

 

[sunny5]

Is he even reliable?

 

[Tagbert]

Too bad. Was really hoping to see it in 2021.

Curious if we will see a non-Pro display this year.

I'd guess that we would see a consumer display at the same time as the iMac Pro using the same screen. If they release it before the larger iMac, it would spoil the reveal.

 

[Tagbert]

By high end are we talking iMac Pro? Or just the 27” replacement?

The general expectation is that they are the same. In the old models, there were major differences inside between the pro and regular iMac but that is not likely to continue into these new models.

There will be a new large M#-based iMac. the screen size will probably increase to 29-32 inches. There may be more than one performance level based on CPU/GPU core counts. It's not clear if Apple will call this "iMac" or "iMac Pro" but people seem to be expecting it to get the "Pro" name.

 

[Tagbert]

I had wished Apple would have released a larger display iMac for the prosumer users. But seeing what they did to the 24 inch iMac and how they continue to remove functionality and upgradeability to reduce their overall service costs and overall support costs to increase profits and made it hard for me to move from the iMac I have now. I'm seriously considering ordering 100 PC for my production department as Apple is really dropped the ball here.

Are you basing that on the low end consumer line we have seen so far? I'd wait to see what they bring out for their pro-sumer line, first. Yes, new Macs will be less upgradeable but few consumers upgraded anyway. If you look at what is rumored for the new higher end MacBook Pros it looks like Apple is adding functionality in the form of additional ports. I would expect the high end iMacs to also retain most of the ports that the existing models have.

 

[mobilemario]

Fair! In that case please can we have 30" consumer monitor.

 

[jonnysods]

This rumour will break some hearts.

 

[poked]

We’re living in a world where car dealers are charging $38,000 for a Toyota Corolla with a straight face, so anything is possible at this point.

Is that pre-owned or new? No sane dealership is charging that much unless it’s pre-owned because people are getting more $$ for their trade-in value, so dealerships have to make up the MSRP buy-back somewhere.
Back on topic - there’s a LOT of rumoring going around. Where’s the concrete evidence in regard to this information in the first place? I mean, I can say that Apple is going to make a 128core based machine with 128GB of RAM M1 too. Doesn’t make it true.

 

[Zdigital2015]

Is that pre-owned or new? No sane dealership is charging that much unless it’s pre-owned because people are getting more $$ for their trade-in value, so dealerships have to make up the MSRP buy-back somewhere.
Back on topic - there’s a LOT of rumoring going around. Where’s the concrete evidence in regard to this information in the first place? I mean, I can say that Apple is going to make a 128core based machine with 128GB of RAM M1 too. Doesn’t make it true.

New 2021 Corolla -

Based on the tags, I think it’s in Tacoma Washington. Yes, car prices are nuts. Nothing much phases me anymore though.

I don’t foresee the M-Series Macs going beyond 64GB for the next 2-3 years, personally.

 

[nihil0]

Do you think the colours of the larger iMac will be the same as the 24”, or will it be a ‘pro’ model, with darker metallic colours, perhaps similar to the iPhone pro colours..?

I should hope so. I would go for space grey with black bezels. No peachy orange white bezel stay at home mom design please.

 

[nihil0]

How about this instead?

- Consumer-ranked products are fun and colorful
- Professional-ranked products are somber and serious.

My M1 MacBook Pro is faster than my Core i9 iMac in everything but Metal, so I don’t consider it low-ranked in the slightest.

Genuinely asking - are you able to provide some results? Because from what I saw from benchmarks for Lightroom or FCPX, the M1 models had same performance as i9 counterparts.

 

[Zdigital2015]

Genuinely asking - are you able to provide some results? Because from what I saw from benchmarks for Lightroom or FCPX, the M1 models had same performance as i9 counterparts.

Well, basically, yes, the performance is the same, although it does feel snappier in day to day use than my 9900K iMac. Wake from sleep is instant compared to every single other computer I own and is now painful on some of my older MBPs, my Late 2011 in particular.