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The Free software Foundation has forgotten why people used to write software in the first place or why open source software started out. Sharing code is pointless if end users are not able to use the programs created for the code. Without making it accessible to end users, development becomes just a bunch of meaningless mental masturbation.

If you care about sharing and collaborating on code then you should also care about sharing the final result with as many users as possible and not deliberately discriminate against platforms. The FSF is opposed to OS X and the iOS. They are ideologues and cannot be reasoned with. Everyone needs to stop giving people like RMS any attention and possibly seek to remove people like him from the leadership of the FSF to get them back to their original goals and ideals.

Removing VLC from the App store goes against the idea of "sharing" software with end users. End users have absolutely no interest in the politics of the FSF or the GPL licences because the GPL only applies to people working with the code. These hosers are not sticking it to the "man". They are only hurting themselves and depriving end users from using the software.

What is the point of creating VLC if you don't let people have it?
Amen brother.
 
What is the point of creating VLC if you don't let people have it?

I really think that one developer, Rémi Denis-Courmont, who blindly hates Apple and thinks he has leverage (read it in one of his emails) to change the Apple EULA. He prefers everyone to suffer so he can push his own agenda.
 
Another reason why you shouldn't distribute things under the GPL. It's just too draconian...almost in the same vein as "closed" source is. There are alternative licences that are just as good, and no where near as restrictive as GPL...like Apache or BSD.

Half the rules for GPL seems more to promote Stallman's rhetoric than anything else. As great as it was in the beginning to promote open source, it's now starting to become a hinderance and holding up progress in some areas...the very thing it was touted as saving in the past.

And no, I'm not looking to get into the merits or politics of this. I'm just a consumer that wants what I want, and this is hindering that. Sure, we can go into the closed nature of Apple and them not allowing blah blah blah. But this is the about Videolan and the "Free" Software Foundation (notice the quotes) not allowing me to do something I want.
 
The Free software Foundation has forgotten why people used to write software in the first place or why open source software started out. Sharing code is pointless if end users are not able to use the programs created for the code. Without making it accessible to end users, development becomes just a bunch of meaningless mental masturbation.

If you care about sharing and collaborating on code then you should also care about sharing the final result with as many users as possible and not deliberately discriminate against platforms. The FSF is opposed to OS X and the iOS. They are ideologues and cannot be reasoned with. Everyone needs to stop giving people like RMS any attention and possibly seek to remove people like him from the leadership of the FSF to get them back to their original goals and ideals.

Removing VLC from the App store goes against the idea of "sharing" software with end users. End users have absolutely no interest in the politics of the FSF or the GPL licences because the GPL only applies to people working with the code. These hosers are not sticking it to the "man". They are only hurting themselves and depriving end users from using the software.

What is the point of creating VLC if you don't let people have it?

Amen to that!
The FSF's attitude is self-defeating.
 
I think if Apple pulled the app it would be the dumbest thing they could do. Besides, everybody that wanted it already has it so why the hell would it matter if it was on the store or not? People would still be "illegally" using it thereby defeating the purpose of pulling it.
 
The Free software Foundation has forgotten why people used to write software in the first place or why open source software started out. Sharing code is pointless if end users are not able to use the programs created for the code. Without making it accessible to end users, development becomes just a bunch of meaningless mental masturbation.

If you care about sharing and collaborating on code then you should also care about sharing the final result with as many users as possible and not deliberately discriminate against platforms. The FSF is opposed to OS X and the iOS. They are ideologues and cannot be reasoned with. Everyone needs to stop giving people like RMS any attention and possibly seek to remove people like him from the leadership of the FSF to get them back to their original goals and ideals.

Removing VLC from the App store goes against the idea of "sharing" software with end users. End users have absolutely no interest in the politics of the FSF or the GPL licences because the GPL only applies to people working with the code. These hosers are not sticking it to the "man". They are only hurting themselves and depriving end users from using the software.

What is the point of creating VLC if you don't let people have it?

Totally agree.
 
Are you kidding?
so what if i am?

You do know that there are quite a number of apps that play AVI on iOS and Mac?
of course i know that for Mac. but for iOS? what is there?

the logic behind converting everything to h264 compliance is because i have files inside mkv containers as well (a bunch of codecs in there) - converting them to h264 is just easier, and avi plays PATHETICALLY with VLC on my iPad anyway, even SD ones - i can totally see the lag.

i had been using Air Video Server to transcode files on the fly to my iPad from the i7 imac, but its suddenly stopped working on iOS4.2 for iPad :(
 
The problem I have with RMS is that his stance is basically communistic (I'm using that word in a descriptive, not a perjorative, sense). He basically rejects the concept of intellectual property rights. it's been about twenty years since I last interacted with him in person, but back then he was adamant about the idea that any code anyone wrote "belonged to the world". As far as I can see, he's always steered FSF in the direction of that philosophy (I have friends who've worked at FSF who can confirm that).

He is also a tireless promoter of the FSF itself - not necessarily a bad thing, for something good that you're passionate about. Sometimes, however, it's not good - can even get petty - anybody remember RMS's insistence that Linux should be called Gnu Linux?
 
Gosh, how I hate Apple for this!!!!!!
Save your (misdirected) energy for better things... such as reading and thinking (for starters).


This situation just shows limitations of app store idea. Nothing more, nothing less.
Yawn. [speaking of limitations . . . ]



Wow - what a bunch of clueless posters. Everyone read this:

http://www.fsf.org/news/blogs/licensing/more-about-the-app-store-gpl-enforcement

It explains exactly why the GPL license is incompatible with the App store. The general idea is that Apple puts further restrictions on your use of a binary... which is disallowed by the GPL.

That's all this is... it's just a license incompatibility.
Correct... and even in that regard, i think the FSF may be a bit confused about a few things. For example, this quote (from the link you just provided):
Brett Smith said:
Rules (i) and (iii) say that you are required to accept the Terms of Service to use the software, and that you may only install the software on five approved devices. These rules are exactly the kind of "further restrictions" that are prohibited by the GPL: they limit your ability to use and distribute the software.
That limit of five devices refers to how many *computers* we can install *music/media* onto. There is no limit (AFAIK) on how many *iPhones/iPods/iPads* we can install *AppStore apps* onto. So that "restriction" they mention there doesn't even apply to VLC itself.

Red herring anyone?
 
Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill macrumors.

How about next time we get a story that's not sensationalist for no good reason.

There are tons of good player apps in the app store people, and all sell for peanuts, o player, buzz player etc. :):apple:

But you wouldn't know that easily because no one bothers to inform you about it here.

As long as people get worked up and post and counter post it's ok I guess and the requirements for articles have been met...:rolleyes:
 
Why can't they just let this pass and let users enjoy good software on their iOS devices?

In the end, the consumers lose if this keeps up...
 
hey thanks! ill give it a squizz

oplayer is pretty darn good as much as I 've used it.

Come one people you are going to be using the players frequently.

Use the lite versions, the free ones (buzz player has one too) and if they suit you go buy the players themselves. Anyone hard up for 2-3 $ shouldn't be here to begin with, they should be out looking for a (better) job. And I am saying this with no intention of offending anyone.

Žalgiris;11341748 said:
This situation just shows how closed minded you are. Nothing more, nothing less.

He's not closed minded only. He's a bona fide troll with the same pattern in almost all his posts and the same modus operandi. And I am sorry you quoted him because I can read him now (I can't if you don't because he's on my ignore list). I am just giving you the heads up here so you can have a more enjoyable forum experience too without getting annoyed by some poster who does this intentionally and routinely and somehow never gets banned.
 
Why can't they just let this pass and let users enjoy good software on their iOS devices?

In the end, the consumers lose if this keeps up...

As mentioned by others earlier, the consumers seem to be of little concern for the FSF and a quite large chunk of the Open Source Community.
Linux is a typical example: while I love the concept from a "political" POV, Linux is just not for everyone.
The only near-disaster that happened to me on a Mac happened after I tried to install Ubuntu on a BootCamp partition :eek:. As a positive, it taught me to backup my desktop.
 
Huh?

Both the developer and distributor of VLC both want it available on the iPhone/iPad through the App Store.

The FSF != VLC

Now, VLC does use the GPL and a 3rd party (not the developer or the distributor) is arguing that a company is violating its own licensing.

Again, the FSF != VLC

How you don't see the ****ed up logic is beyond me.

Look, the initial objection did not come from the FSF. The FSF is not a copyright holder and as such cannot put down a claim.

The initial objection came from someone who contributed code to VLC, an independant developer. Where did you get this was a 3rd party ? This guy is very much 1st party to it all. He wrote code, he retains his copyright and he believes that his code, as licensed under the GPL is being infringed upon by being redistributed in the App store.

Everyone bitching about the FSF here have not read the article and does not understand what is going on.
 
Another reason why you shouldn't distribute things under the GPL. It's just too draconian...almost in the same vein as "closed" source is. There are alternative licences that are just as good, and no where near as restrictive as GPL...like Apache or BSD.

Half the rules for GPL seems more to promote Stallman's rhetoric than anything else. As great as it was in the beginning to promote open source, it's now starting to become a hinderance and holding up progress in some areas...the very thing it was touted as saving in the past.

And no, I'm not looking to get into the merits or politics of this. I'm just a consumer that wants what I want, and this is hindering that. Sure, we can go into the closed nature of Apple and them not allowing blah blah blah. But this is the about Videolan and the "Free" Software Foundation (notice the quotes) not allowing me to do something I want.

How is the GPL draconian?
 
As mentioned by others earlier, the consumers seem to be of little concern for the FSF and a quite large chunk of the Open Source Community.
Linux is a typical example: while I love the concept from a "political" POV, Linux is just not for everyone.
The only near-disaster that happened to me on a Mac happened after I tried to install Ubuntu on a BootCamp partition :eek:. As a positive, it taught me to backup my desktop.

Always keep ubuntu on a flash drive, never on a partition with OS X, this thing can wreak havoc to everything. That's the dark side of the otherwise commendable and open source linux, and especially of ubuntu. I 'd used it for a while, and whilst it's pretty good when things go well, if things go badly they can get seriously out of hand.

Plus to me there really is no need for another unix when you have os x... I can understand one having a linux install when dealing with windows, but I can't see why the should have a worse unix distro than os x - well other than experimentation of course.
 
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