Amen brother.The Free software Foundation has forgotten why people used to write software in the first place or why open source software started out. Sharing code is pointless if end users are not able to use the programs created for the code. Without making it accessible to end users, development becomes just a bunch of meaningless mental masturbation.
If you care about sharing and collaborating on code then you should also care about sharing the final result with as many users as possible and not deliberately discriminate against platforms. The FSF is opposed to OS X and the iOS. They are ideologues and cannot be reasoned with. Everyone needs to stop giving people like RMS any attention and possibly seek to remove people like him from the leadership of the FSF to get them back to their original goals and ideals.
Removing VLC from the App store goes against the idea of "sharing" software with end users. End users have absolutely no interest in the politics of the FSF or the GPL licences because the GPL only applies to people working with the code. These hosers are not sticking it to the "man". They are only hurting themselves and depriving end users from using the software.
What is the point of creating VLC if you don't let people have it?
What is the point of creating VLC if you don't let people have it?
The Free software Foundation has forgotten why people used to write software in the first place or why open source software started out. Sharing code is pointless if end users are not able to use the programs created for the code. Without making it accessible to end users, development becomes just a bunch of meaningless mental masturbation.
If you care about sharing and collaborating on code then you should also care about sharing the final result with as many users as possible and not deliberately discriminate against platforms. The FSF is opposed to OS X and the iOS. They are ideologues and cannot be reasoned with. Everyone needs to stop giving people like RMS any attention and possibly seek to remove people like him from the leadership of the FSF to get them back to their original goals and ideals.
Removing VLC from the App store goes against the idea of "sharing" software with end users. End users have absolutely no interest in the politics of the FSF or the GPL licences because the GPL only applies to people working with the code. These hosers are not sticking it to the "man". They are only hurting themselves and depriving end users from using the software.
What is the point of creating VLC if you don't let people have it?
how pathetic. who even reported it?
*goes back to converting TBs of movies that Apple cant play*
The Free software Foundation has forgotten why people used to write software in the first place or why open source software started out. Sharing code is pointless if end users are not able to use the programs created for the code. Without making it accessible to end users, development becomes just a bunch of meaningless mental masturbation.
If you care about sharing and collaborating on code then you should also care about sharing the final result with as many users as possible and not deliberately discriminate against platforms. The FSF is opposed to OS X and the iOS. They are ideologues and cannot be reasoned with. Everyone needs to stop giving people like RMS any attention and possibly seek to remove people like him from the leadership of the FSF to get them back to their original goals and ideals.
Removing VLC from the App store goes against the idea of "sharing" software with end users. End users have absolutely no interest in the politics of the FSF or the GPL licences because the GPL only applies to people working with the code. These hosers are not sticking it to the "man". They are only hurting themselves and depriving end users from using the software.
What is the point of creating VLC if you don't let people have it?
so what if i am?Are you kidding?
of course i know that for Mac. but for iOS? what is there?You do know that there are quite a number of apps that play AVI on iOS and Mac?
Save your (misdirected) energy for better things... such as reading and thinking (for starters).Gosh, how I hate Apple for this!!!!!!
Yawn. [speaking of limitations . . . ]This situation just shows limitations of app store idea. Nothing more, nothing less.
Correct... and even in that regard, i think the FSF may be a bit confused about a few things. For example, this quote (from the link you just provided):Wow - what a bunch of clueless posters. Everyone read this:
http://www.fsf.org/news/blogs/licensing/more-about-the-app-store-gpl-enforcement
It explains exactly why the GPL license is incompatible with the App store. The general idea is that Apple puts further restrictions on your use of a binary... which is disallowed by the GPL.
That's all this is... it's just a license incompatibility.
That limit of five devices refers to how many *computers* we can install *music/media* onto. There is no limit (AFAIK) on how many *iPhones/iPods/iPads* we can install *AppStore apps* onto. So that "restriction" they mention there doesn't even apply to VLC itself.Brett Smith said:Rules (i) and (iii) say that you are required to accept the Terms of Service to use the software, and that you may only install the software on five approved devices. These rules are exactly the kind of "further restrictions" that are prohibited by the GPL: they limit your ability to use and distribute the software.
This situation just shows limitations of app store idea. Nothing more, nothing less.
There are tons of good player apps in the app store people, and all sell for peanuts, o player, buzz player etc.![]()
recommend me a free one that will do most things and ill be happy.
Oplayer lite is free. I can't vouch for its quality though. Costs nothing to try.
recommend me a free one that will do most things and ill be happy.
Don't be a cheapskate, I am sure .79 to 3 euros won't break the bank for you...
hey thanks! ill give it a squizz
Žalgiris;11341748 said:This situation just shows how closed minded you are. Nothing more, nothing less.
Why can't they just let this pass and let users enjoy good software on their iOS devices?
In the end, the consumers lose if this keeps up...
Huh?
Both the developer and distributor of VLC both want it available on the iPhone/iPad through the App Store.
The FSF != VLC
Now, VLC does use the GPL and a 3rd party (not the developer or the distributor) is arguing that a company is violating its own licensing.
Again, the FSF != VLC
How you don't see the ****ed up logic is beyond me.
Everyone bitching about the FSF here have not read the article and does not understand what is going on.
Another reason why you shouldn't distribute things under the GPL. It's just too draconian...almost in the same vein as "closed" source is. There are alternative licences that are just as good, and no where near as restrictive as GPL...like Apache or BSD.
Half the rules for GPL seems more to promote Stallman's rhetoric than anything else. As great as it was in the beginning to promote open source, it's now starting to become a hinderance and holding up progress in some areas...the very thing it was touted as saving in the past.
And no, I'm not looking to get into the merits or politics of this. I'm just a consumer that wants what I want, and this is hindering that. Sure, we can go into the closed nature of Apple and them not allowing blah blah blah. But this is the about Videolan and the "Free" Software Foundation (notice the quotes) not allowing me to do something I want.
As mentioned by others earlier, the consumers seem to be of little concern for the FSF and a quite large chunk of the Open Source Community.
Linux is a typical example: while I love the concept from a "political" POV, Linux is just not for everyone.
The only near-disaster that happened to me on a Mac happened after I tried to install Ubuntu on a BootCamp partition. As a positive, it taught me to backup my desktop.