Last-Minute 5G iPhone SE Details Leaked By Reliable Analyst Ming-Chi Kuo

[sracer]

Apple isn't going to sell an iPhone for less than $399. And if they add an A15 and 5G, $399 will be a bargain.

I'll be genuinely surprised if the base 2022 SE MSRP's at $399.... $449 or $499 is what I suspect.

 

[Bow Commander]

The battery life though. I would need nothing more from the already existing SE except battery life.

 

[Souponastick270]

Apple pushing 8 years out of the same iPhone 6 design language, that’s some going!

 

[dannyyankou]

Does anyone really care about it tho it’s the same se again it’s just the same old boring phone with 5g

Well I'm guessing the same target market that prefers to buy a $400 vs $1000 phone also doesn't upgrade every year. This would make a nice upgrade for 2016 iPhone SE customers.

 

[Rychiar]

I don't agree: making it an iPhone 11 would be the end of Touch ID in the iPhone lineup, and I believe there is still a significant number of people that prefer it.

Here's the math: 100% of lkalliances on the Macworld boards prefer Touch ID to Face ID. That suggests that 100% of users prefer Touch ID to Face ID!

I'm looking to buy this for my parents. their fingerprints don't even work on Touch ID. I guess as ya get old you're fingers wear down or something.

 

[imnotthewalrus]

Do we really need an update on the se we know it’s coming with 5g and new chip nothing to be wow about

Need? Not really. But it’s something to read (as you did) on an otherwise boring news day.

 

[AmazeSE]

The SE is the entry level model. It doesn't need to be "exciting," just functional.

The battery life is bad for a 2022 phone. It's functional if you don't use it a lot or else you have to run to the charger after 30 mins of use.

 

[sracer]

The battery life is bad for a 2022 phone. It's functional if you don't use it a lot or else you have to run to the charger after 30 mins of use.

That's true for any device. What is your definition of "use it a lot"?

 

[AmazeSE]

I'm looking to buy this for my parents. their fingerprints don't even work on Touch ID. I guess as ya get old you're fingers wear down or something.

Touch ID never worked for me properly. My fingers were probably wet or dirty most of the time plus the glass home button doesn't help either it gets smudged most of the times and I think this is one of the reason for Touch ID not working properly. I have to wipe the sensor every time to use it.

Now that iOS 15.4 beta solves the mask issue I don't think there is no disadvantage of Face ID to Touch ID anymore. Face ID is much more easier and more reliable to use.

 

[topmounter]

This aligns perfectly with my expectations for an SE refresh. Except maybe the mmWave support, hopefully that wasn't a choice that displaced a feature or function that is actually beneficial and/or useful.

 

[AmazeSE]

That's true for any device. What is your definition of "use it a lot"?

Is it? Have you ever used the SE? The battery life is completely horrible. Every recent phone from 2020 is better than the SE in battery life. I can guarantee you that a $150 phone will destroy it in battery life. What is the use of 5G and a fast processor if you can't use it for long.?

"Use it a lot" basically means web browsing, calls, social media, YouTube and etc. The things most people use a phone for. The current SE gives battery anxiety to anyone who uses it.

Edit: I just saw your previous post and learned that you have ordered the 2020 SE for $199. That's a great deal. Please let me know your thoughts on it's battery life after get it and use it for sometime.
Battery degradation is another problem. Since the SE has a small battery we can notice the degradation of the battery much more than the other iPhones with larger battery life. There's a huge drop in battery life after a year of use.

 

[Spock]

I'll be genuinely surprised if the base 2022 SE MSRP's at $399.... $449 or $499 is what I suspect.

Yeah, you are probably right

 

[SpotOnT]

I just don’t understand how they think battery life will work with 5G on this…..

 

[ericg301]

hoping the battery life is improved somehow. my middle-schooler has this phone and keeps it on during the school days (but on silent) and only takes it out at lunch...and by the end of the school day the battery is almost dead.

 

[kemal]

Would Apple risk making the battery life worse?

 

[grouch]

Original title of this post was "Last-Minute 5G iPhone SE Details Leaked By Unverified 'Ming-Chi Kuo' Twitter Account" but now it's "Last-Minute 5G iPhone SE Details Leaked By Reliable Analyst Ming-Chi Kuo"

So unverified changed to reliable?

 

[NewBench]

Definitely needs a decent battery life boost, that was the one major drawback of the 2nd Gen SE.

 

[sracer]

Is it? Have you ever used the SE? The battery life is completely horrible. Every recent phone from 2020 is better than the SE in battery life. I can guarantee you that a $150 phone will destroy it in battery life. What is the use of 5G and a fast processor if you can't use it for long.?

"Use it a lot is basic" means web browsing, calls, social media, YouTube and etc. The things most people use a phone for. The current SE gives battery anxiety to anyone who uses it.

Edit: I just saw your previous post and learned that you have ordered the 2020 SE for $199. That's a great deal. Please let me know your thoughts on it's battery life after get it and use it for sometime.
Battery degradation is another problem. Since the SE has a small battery we can notice the degradation of the battery much more than the other iPhones with larger battery life. There's a huge drop in battery life after a year of use.

Yes. I have used my wife's SE. The battery life was good... so good that (as I previously mentioned) I ordered one for myself. I'll definitely keep an eye on battery life and try to quantify my usage to help people have a perspective on what to expect given a particular use.

 

[Bearygoodfries1]

So not even a color change? So basically the only difference is 5G and A15. Apple can't release a phone this boring, I think this account is fake.

I thought this was what the majority of people were expecting for this phone, though.

 

[6787872]

With a very different MSRP...

"i want a premium phone for a cheaper price."

guess what? the bigger screen is part of what makes it more premium....

 

[Duncan-UK]

Is good battery life a gimmick? The battery on the current SE is very bad and it most probably will be the same if not worse in this upcoming SE.

That's a fair point - but I think I'd put up with less than optimal battery for such an affordable phone. There's a whole market place to be cracked open and demographics that simply dont care about the latest non-SE phones.

 

[Duncan-UK]

Apple pushing 8 years out of the same iPhone 6 design language, that’s some going!

If it aint broke...

I can't stand Face ID - I have it on a 12 mini which is my work phone, and its especially awful on the 12.9 inch iPad Pro - where half the time it doesn't work, so I have to tilt the iPad. Give me finger ID anytime - whether it be home button or sleep button as on the iPad mini and Air.

 

[chucker23n1]

A bigger iPhone SE Plus at least, please?

You're describing the iPhone 13 mini.

 

[JLD94]

So how does the sales numbers compare to the current SE? Find it strange that there is an estimated shipments in the leak. Is this higher or lower than current shipments?

 

[JLD94]

Exactly. I just ordered a 64GB Product(RED) iPhone SE for $199. It's going to be a great phone at a great price. I didn't think I'd ever go back to an iPhone, but I couldn't pass it up for that price.

Since the introduction of the original SE, it represents the greatest bang-for-the-buck iPhone and if this rumor turns out to be true, that tradition will continue. Apple just needs to hold the line on the price.

Through a carrier? Where can you get it for $199? Thanks