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Have never understood why anyone would ever use a 3rd party password system - let alone one that charges money. Keychain has been a part of iOS and Mac for years and I have relied on it ever since. Save your $3 and actually learn about iOS and Mac OS… it’s almost like they were designed to be smart or something!!! 🤦‍♂️
Keychain doesn't always work like it should. If one solely relies on it and it fails, what then?
 
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Have never understood why anyone would ever use a 3rd party password system - let alone one that charges money. Keychain has been a part of iOS and Mac for years and I have relied on it ever since. Save your $3 and actually learn about iOS and Mac OS… it’s almost like they were designed to be smart or something!!! 🤦‍♂️
Keychain does not come close to offering the useful features that 1Password provides. Keychain does not even have a proper UI. If it did I would use it.
 
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I just encountered this with a client. I have been recommending password database software that uses open formats (either "Password Safe" format or "KeePass" format) which gives a variety of choices for software implementations across all platforms. My current macOS and iOS favourite is "Strongbox" which is available for free with some "premium" features for not-free


Totally free is KeePassXC and it also has Android implementations


Here is how to get data out of LastPass or 1Password and into Strongbox/KeePassXC:

I recently switched to Strongbox from 1Password and really like it. I also use Bitwarden as backup.
 
Have never understood why anyone would ever use a 3rd party password system - let alone one that charges money. Keychain has been a part of iOS and Mac for years and I have relied on it ever since. Save your $3 and actually learn about iOS and Mac OS… it’s almost like they were designed to be smart or something!!! 🤦‍♂️
I'm sure many have commented, but when iCloud keychain's syncing broke severely and all my passwords were lost (Apple support sadly just told me it happens, and I had to reset my mac's keychain and my iCloud one) I became a 1password subscriber. That happened to me twice using iCloud Keychain before I was like this isn't worth it.

Also support for 2FA, changing the type of password you're filling, sharing passwords, and support for multiple fields is pretty great. Also works for other browsers besides safari. There are many things to enjoy about a 3rd party password manager. For me, it's reliability.
 
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I'm sure many have commented, but when iCloud keychain's syncing broke severely and all my passwords were lost (Apple support sadly just told me it happens, and I had to reset my mac's keychain and my iCloud one) I became a 1password subscriber. That happened to me twice using iCloud Keychain before I was like this isn't worth it.

Also support for 2FA, changing the type of password you're filling, sharing passwords, and support for multiple fields is pretty great. Also works for other browsers besides safari. There are many things to enjoy about a 3rd party password manager. For me, it's reliability.
Reliability is for weak Apple supporters who haven't studied Apple enough. Get with the program and show how much you care about Apple by sticking with Keychain. Apple promises not to let you down a third time. :p

/s

I experienced the same kind of problem several years ago with Keychain. Never again will I put myself in that predicament.
 
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I left these money grubbing people after 15 years of using the program. After they raised prices by 300 percent. Now they are killing the free teir. Go check out Bitwarden. Free for most users and does everything that lastpsss does if you pay 36 dollars a year. Plus they are the only password manager that is willing to allow an outside adult of their security. Wonder why!
 
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Have never understood why anyone would ever use a 3rd party password system - let alone one that charges money. Keychain has been a part of iOS and Mac for years and I have relied on it ever since. Save your $3 and actually learn about iOS and Mac OS… it’s almost like they were designed to be smart or something!!! 🤦‍♂️
Keychain is good, but I prefer the separation of concerns. Not to mention that third-parties tend to add mroe functionality, like reporting, data breach alerting, more options with password generation, secure notes, better sharing.
 
My biggest complaint is $3/mo is pretty spendy for what you are getting in reality... a bunch of post-it-notes storing a couple bytes of text. If it was $10/yr or less I'd have no problem. But when you are approaching AppleTV rates with almost no bandwidth requirements per customer...sorry, I just don't see the justification
 
My biggest complaint is $3/mo is pretty spendy for what you are getting in reality... a bunch of post-it-notes storing a couple bytes of text. If it was $10/yr or less I'd have no problem. But when you are approaching AppleTV rates with almost no bandwidth requirements per customer...sorry, I just don't see the justification
Value is relative. I use lastpass to run two businesses worth of logins and personal accounts and I can have them at a moment's notice. Time is money and the quicker I can work, the faster stuff gets done.
 
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My biggest complaint is $3/mo is pretty spendy for what you are getting in reality... a bunch of post-it-notes storing a couple bytes of text. If it was $10/yr or less I'd have no problem. But when you are approaching AppleTV rates with almost no bandwidth requirements per customer...sorry, I just don't see the justification

Therein lies my argument.

It's not even bandwidth. They're already storing your password value for 1 device free. All of your passwords are already there for free.

Now it costs more for another device to access that which was free before to do? Like c'mon man...

It's an artificial set limitation for a money grab. There is no other explanation.
 
Then don't use them?

Use the same password for every account and enjoy getting your digital life stolen.
Not my point. As my backup I use Notes on my Apple devices. I share that folder of information with my spouse. Encrypted just like 3rd party apps..... UI not so great.
 
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Have said it before, will say it again, 100% FREE Ad-based apps will soon go the way of the DoDo Bird !

This is simply more proof of that.

iOS 14.5 Privacy Changes will be a Game Changer !
I have an entire OS and 100+ apps, all free and with no ads -- Linux. I'm pretty sure it will remain this way.

Mac OS and Windows are commercial products that aim to make money. But others don't really care to make money and work for other reasons such as their own education, fame and peer recognition, padding out their resume and just as a hoby.
 
I used to use iCloud Keychain and KeePass, and while they both provide solutions, 1Password has still been the best option for me. I share some accounts with my dad and I can easily review any of my wife's information for when we're filling forms out or she needs the Hulu password etc. Lastpass always seemed clunky to me while 1P seems almost like a native iOS software.

Or maybe I'm just opposed to companies that advertise with creators directly on youtube when I have premium.
 
Strongbox/keepass all the way. Check it out if you haven’t already. It’s awesome. The dev is awesome. There’s a fully featured free tier, a sub or a pay in full option. Keepass is the gold standard and many many apps are compatible for all platforms. Strongbox is the most actively updated open source keepass compatible app on iOS.
 
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It boggles my mind how cheap some people are regarding things as crucial as security. We spend hundreds and thousands of $ on our tech hardware but can’t fathom paying a few $ a month for a service that provides a huge amount of functionality. The level of entitlement some feel is ridiculous.

If companies/developers can’t find a consistent stream of revenue to support their products, their products end up dying on the vine. You want a quality product, support that developer. If you go the free route, you have zero right to bitch and moan if that product ultimately goes away.

I agree, if you're not getting the functionality you expect (or feel you're entitled to) you look at other routes. An issue in the security realm is that some users don't explore all avenues and compare their security protocols either. So you may roll with a free option for a VPN which does hide your web activity from your ISP but still sells the activity to the highest bidder.

I'm not suggesting LastPass has this issue, but if you're wary about your account data floating on the internet you can set up and host a local server with 1Password. Most password managers have robust feature sets but again, I agree that those who claim to be privacy-oriented don't even look at these topics and only roll with what's cheapest.
 
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My biggest complaint is $3/mo is pretty spendy for what you are getting in reality... a bunch of post-it-notes storing a couple bytes of text. If it was $10/yr or less I'd have no problem. But when you are approaching AppleTV rates with almost no bandwidth requirements per customer...sorry, I just don't see the justification
Yea, I’d be willing to pay that much if it was uncannily good. But it isn’t.

it has issues.
- Autofill doesn’t work on many sites. Requiring copy/paste
- Password generator uses symbols not supported by many sites
- Form fill not totally reliable
- False password change detection
- No password change detection
- easy password change is worthless
- password generator doesn’t detect too many characters input

At $36 a year, really $48 for a family plan, I expect far more reliable features.
 
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I'd like to just use keychain, but it's not available on my chromebook, work PC, etc. I had Lastpass awhile ago but that's even more expensive and their "automatic password changing" is a joke with very obsolete list of supported sites. I guess $3/mo isn't bad for lastpass (the $27/yr is only for the first year)
My solution has been to just not use non-Apple stuff :) but I'm always glad competition exists.
Work PC is an entirely separate realm for me. It's a Mac, but I don't connect it to any of my personal stuff.
 
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1. Never great to have all of your eggs in any one basket.
It is great to have all your eggs in one basket. Then there's only one basket to manage.

Every website secures comms with HTTPS, not a mix of different encryption standards. One tool for one purpose. If HTTPS is broken, everything is toast.
 
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