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LastPass Limiting Free Accounts to Either Computer or Phone

I switched to Bitwarden this afternoon. Took about 5 minutes. Open source and the free tier is good enough for me, I don’t need it to function as an authentication app. I have MS Authenticator for that. Although Authenticator is starting to get some of these features it doesn’t do things like be able to easily generate a password or pass phrase or to store other types of info.

Shame, I was a last pass user for years. I remember originally having to pay for it for the cross device sync. I think I made a one time payment for 4 years up front.
 
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Baritone_Guy said:
I switched to Bitwarden this afternoon. Took about 5 minutes. Open source and the free tier is good enough for me, I don’t need it to function as an authentication app. I have MS Authenticator for that. Although Authenticator is starting to get some of these features it doesn’t do things like be able to easily generate a password or pass phrase or to store other types of info.

Shame, I was a last pass user for years. I remember originally having to pay for it for the cross device sync. I think I made a one time payment for 4 years up front.
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Take a look at OTP Auth. It is a free app. Excellent app and can sync across your Apple devices.
 
romaguyntx said:
Have never understood why anyone would ever use a 3rd party password system - let alone one that charges money. Keychain has been a part of iOS and Mac for years and I have relied on it ever since. Save your $3 and actually learn about iOS and Mac OS… it’s almost like they were designed to be smart or something!!! 🤦‍♂️
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Because Apple Keychain is 100% useless on Linux, Android, and Windows (I don’t use chrome). I have “never understood” why people don’t get this.
 
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Anyone familiar with LogMeIn (the company that bought LastPass some time ago) knows they have a LONG history of buying up products like LastPass and then ending the free version and charging enormous subscription fees to continue using the product. Look it up. Once they bought this tool I knew the end for the free version was nigh at hand.
 
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As an "old person" I used to store passwords on an encrypted partition locally. Recently I bought a password manager subscription (in my case 1password) therefore following all threats that are about password managers. Didn't know about lastpass. Now 2 months into using a password managers and I'm still quite happy with 1password. It seems more convenient than to mount and decrypt my partition each time I need to look something up.

However, I have not moved all banking data just yet, I still feel it's a bit strange to enter my most valuable data into a 3rd party software. How's your feelings about this?
 
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As an "old person" I used to store passwords on an encrypted partition locally. Recently I bought a password manager subscription (in my case 1password) therefore following all threats that are about password managers. Didn't know about lastpass. Now 2 months into using a password managers and I'm still quite happy with 1password. It seems more convenient than to mount and decrypt my partition each time I need to look something up.

However, I have not moved all banking data just yet, I still feel it's a bit strange to enter my most valuable data into a 3rd party software. How's your feelings about this?
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You could host your data locally and not rely on any cloud service, if you are concerned about a bad actor gaining access to your data. It isn't necessarily easy to set up.
 
I gladly pay for the family version. It became a lifesaver during virtual learning - my
Kids have tons of passwords for all their sites.
 
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However, I have not moved all banking data just yet, I still feel it's a bit strange to enter my most valuable data into a 3rd party software. How's your feelings about this?
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Most banks use some sort of 2FA, you would need more than the password anyway. Either true 2FA or reject any IP address you haven't used before without verifying.

It would be tough absent having access to your device or someone smart enough to clone your IP. At that point, you are dealing with a pro targeting you specifically where your password manager won't help much.

The major password managers have never had data stolen. Even LastPass when breached no one's data was accessed. It's pretty well encrypted.

Personal opinion, I find hosting it on consumer cloud storage to be a bigger vulnerability. 99.99% of people cant self-host.
 
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Personal opinion, I find hosting it on consumer cloud storage to be a bigger vulnerability. 99.99% of people cant self-host.
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It‘s not a vulnerability because it is encrypted. Wouldn’t matter if you posted it publicly.
 
I switched from Lastpass to Bitwarden after reading all the posts here. In Chrome(Win10) Bitwarden does not prompt to save new password, so I wonder what's the point of having it installed anyway? Any other recommendations?
 
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I switched to BitWarden yesterday because of this. I would be willing to pay $10 - $12 per year for LastPass, but the service does not warrant more than that. Too bad they are too greedy.
 
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I switched from Lastpass to Bitwarden after reading all the posts here. In Chrome(Win10) Bitwarden does not prompt to save new password, so I wonder what's the point of having it installed anyway? Any other recommendations?
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This also happened to me about a year ago when I first tried BitWarden in Safari. It appears that this (the reliability of the prompts for new passwords) has been an ongoing issue accross all if not most browsers for at least a year. It annoyed me enough to go back to LastPass then, but now I'm back to BitWarden. The workaround to this frustrating issue is explained in the video below:


It shows an alternative to save new logins that should always works vs expecting/hoping that the extension will prompt you to save new logins as they are created.

I'm fine with this workaround.
 
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Pfffft. For 35 bucks (27 first year) I’m just doing it.

It’s amazing how many people want things for nothing. One less Starbucks per month. No big deal. Wake up people.
 
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whlee75 said:
I switched from Lastpass to Bitwarden after reading all the posts here. In Chrome(Win10) Bitwarden does not prompt to save new password, so I wonder what's the point of having it installed anyway? Any other recommendations?
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I used that workaround someone posted.... but I sent a tweet to the developer to ask why. Also, lets says a new password is required at login on a site that is in Bitwarden. It does not ask to update.
 
^^BIGMac said:
Pfffft. For 35 bucks (27 first year) I’m just doing it.

It’s amazing how many people want things for nothing. One less Starbucks per month. No big deal. Wake up people.
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I don't mind paying for quality software whether 1 time or subscription. I was a 1Password subscriber for many years. When I found out about Strongbox and Bitwarden, I saw that I could save $36 a year by not subscribing to 1Password anymore and use that money for other software purchases. I paid the one time fee for Strongbox on both platforms and it has been well worth it thus far. Strongbox does everything 1Password does and cheaper. That is a good deal, in my opinion. I use Bitwarden as my backup password manager and for me, that is well worth the $10 a year for the premium version, versus $36 from 1Password.
 
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travelsheep said:
As an "old person" I used to store passwords on an encrypted partition locally. Recently I bought a password manager subscription (in my case 1password) therefore following all threats that are about password managers. Didn't know about lastpass. Now 2 months into using a password managers and I'm still quite happy with 1password. It seems more convenient than to mount and decrypt my partition each time I need to look something up.

However, I have not moved all banking data just yet, I still feel it's a bit strange to enter my most valuable data into a 3rd party software. How's your feelings about this?
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Look into keepass. This is entirely ‘roll your own’. It’s open source, mainly free as in beer, you create the database, secure it how you like, with whichever encryption method you like, store it where you like and accesses it across any platform you like and with any app that supports keepass - which is a great deal. (Specifically; KeepassXC, Macpass or Strongbox on macos, or Strongbox and KeePassium on iOS, or something like KeeWeb for web access).
It’s so much more peace of mind am than relying on a third party to do it for you, especially for very private things or things requiring top protection, such as banking details.
 
I’ve been paying for LastPass for years, and think for something so important it’s worth paying money for!

I use their Authenticator app as well which stores the accounts online so it’s a lot more convenient.

The expectation that important services should be free is amusing and unrealistic IMO.
 
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whatgift said:
I’ve been paying for LastPass for years, and think for something so important it’s worth paying money for!

I use their Authenticator app as well which stores the accounts online so it’s a lot more convenient.

The expectation that important services should be free is amusing and unrealistic IMO.
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Except, as I have mentioned twice in this thread already, there are free or nearly free options, so it’s entirely far from being unrealistic.
 
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My point is that whether those services long term business model is sustainable, or their methods of financing.
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Keepass has been around since 2003, is widely regarded as the gold standard, trusted and regularly audited. It’s open source rather than closed and private and so longevity as a medium is much more viable.
The apps that are able to read the database files are widely available on all platforms. The desktop ones tend to be free but are all very very well established, and the iOS (and maybe android but don’t know) ones have extensive and usable free tiers but are financed by fuller versions - either by largish one off payments or subscription models.
The biggest point of all is that these are not owned by giant tech companies that can change on a whim. It is audited and fully verifiable open source code. Open source is not the silver bullet some would have you believe, but in the case of keepass and a few other select security programmes, it’s a much more trustworthy option.
 
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What’s a good, free alternative? I use LastPass now, but I will switch because of these news.
 
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