Small White Car
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Hmm...I can tell you that it's about 5 hours from now (about the same time you wrote your post, too).
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Hmm...I can tell you that it's about 5 hours from now (about the same time you wrote your post, too).
Does that help?
And why? What is your reasoning, except driven by emotions? Are you telling me that Best Buy, Circuit City or WalMart shouldn't make a profit for selling you a product? Just get a small percentage to just cover the rent/cost of ownership of the store location, and their employers? That it is a digital store is really irrelevant. It's a product they sell thru their store.
Stella
macrumors G3
Unfortunately, Apple may force all iPhone apps on to iTunes.
There would be outrage if Apple did the same for OSX apps... and made a charge to the developer for paid for ( shareware / commercial ) apps.
iPhone + WiFi == wii
Having access to WiFi through the iphone opens up incredible opportunities both good and some bad ones. You can control just about any thing from the iphone including games on any pc or device. Also, imagine your rogue neighbor controlling your house remotely for fun! 🙂
Having access to WiFi through the iphone opens up incredible opportunities both good and some bad ones. You can control just about any thing from the iphone including games on any pc or device. Also, imagine your rogue neighbor controlling your house remotely for fun! 🙂
I think the problem is more about the talented individual programmers that don't have the financial clout of a company, but still could have provided some handy applications for the iPhone.
Actually I'm a student member and they sent me leopard for free in one of my updates...
Small White Car
macrumors G4
Sometimes comparing Apples and Oranges is just that, and nothing more.
McDonalds only serves coke products. You could say "well, restricting is bad... there'd be an outrage if they started selling just diet coke and nothing else."
Ok, yeah, well they're not and they're not going to. So it doesn't really mean anything to point it out.
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And on your local torrent site 2 days later 😉
Why can that not be a toy then? Some people develop for fun! Why do you think there's so many free third-party apps around already? None of those people are making any money.
Stella
macrumors G3
I see your point, but I fail to understand why people differentiate between iPhone and OSX apps. Its all the same: applications that run on a development open platform.
Small White Car
macrumors G4
But it's not an open platform. There's 3 types of people.
1) Those that just accept this.
2) Those that understand it, but don't like it.
3) Those that pretend it isn't true or that it might someday change.
Obviously, the group 1 folks have the least to complain about. We can't all live in that state of mind, I know, but you at least need to pull yourself up to group #2. It's never going to change, so stop torturing yourself. The only thing that group 3 people are doing is hurting themselves.
Stella
macrumors G3
I said 'development open platform', which is it, once the SDK is released, anyone is free to develop for the iPhone ( and Touch ).
Really, there are no differences between an iPhone and OSX app - apart from artificially induiced differences.
All of the below applications are the same - i.e., ,they all run on an open development platform:
1. OSX app
2. Symbian app
3. Blackberry app
4. windows app
There is nothing that makes an iPhone app somehow different from the above.
Really, there are no differences between an iPhone and OSX app - apart from artificially induiced differences.
All of the below applications are the same - i.e., ,they all run on an open development platform:
1. OSX app
2. Symbian app
3. Blackberry app
4. windows app
There is nothing that makes an iPhone app somehow different from the above.
Small White Car
macrumors G4
Oops...should have quoted this part:
"but I fail to understand why people differentiate between iPhone and OSX apps"
I think that puts you in camp 3.
Look, I'm not saying I disagree with your points, I'm just trying help you keep a happier state of mind. Sometimes that means being cynical and depressed about something, strangely enough.
Stella
macrumors G3
Online members didn't.
Student members did. Unless my copy is a figment of my imagination... difference is Student members didn't get a copy of Server, which Select/Premier members did.
AliensAreFuzzy
macrumors 68000
...And in a surprise announcement, Apple releases a CDMA EV-DO version of the iPhone partnering with Alltel.
I can wish can't I?🙄
I can wish can't I?🙄
I hope that Apple update the Mac Mini soon, so that I can get a nice new home Mac with Leopard and install the SDK and start messing around with it.
Didn't expect anything different from a Leopard-only SDK that uses XCode, that allows you to develop applications that Apple will distribute via the iTunes Store, with free applications and non-free that Apple takes a cut of (to pay for credit card processing, other costs and a thin slice of profit).
Developers should be happy that they don't need to be the ones processing the payments and developing a support infrastructure for selling their applications.
Dunno what the fee will be, but maybe $1 of a $4.99 app. I suppose it could be 20% of the application's price, or a minimum of $0.50 for any commercial application. And every iPhone and iPod Touch user uses iTunes, and can get their apps from there, so it is a great place to sell your applications.
Didn't expect anything different from a Leopard-only SDK that uses XCode, that allows you to develop applications that Apple will distribute via the iTunes Store, with free applications and non-free that Apple takes a cut of (to pay for credit card processing, other costs and a thin slice of profit).
Developers should be happy that they don't need to be the ones processing the payments and developing a support infrastructure for selling their applications.
Dunno what the fee will be, but maybe $1 of a $4.99 app. I suppose it could be 20% of the application's price, or a minimum of $0.50 for any commercial application. And every iPhone and iPod Touch user uses iTunes, and can get their apps from there, so it is a great place to sell your applications.
Island Dog
macrumors 6502a
pilotError
macrumors 68020
Not to go too far off topic, but isn't the iPhone based on a version Tiger (10.4)?
If so, does this mean a release updating the OS to the Leopard libraries? I guess we'll find out once the SDK is delivered.
Off topic, the slight fee to cover the distribution isn't a big issue IMHO.
I understand where the PC folks are coming from, but the SDK is a Mac framework specific set of tools. Xcode doesn't give you access to the API's that Apple uses to target their PC tools (ie. iTunes for Windows, Safari for Windows, etc). A windows library / cross compiler would be nice and certainly open up the field to about 100x as many developers, but Apple is struggling to get this out on a Mac platform, I can't imagine a PC release anytime soon (or at all).
If so, does this mean a release updating the OS to the Leopard libraries? I guess we'll find out once the SDK is delivered.
Off topic, the slight fee to cover the distribution isn't a big issue IMHO.
I understand where the PC folks are coming from, but the SDK is a Mac framework specific set of tools. Xcode doesn't give you access to the API's that Apple uses to target their PC tools (ie. iTunes for Windows, Safari for Windows, etc). A windows library / cross compiler would be nice and certainly open up the field to about 100x as many developers, but Apple is struggling to get this out on a Mac platform, I can't imagine a PC release anytime soon (or at all).
EagerDragon
macrumors 68020
Were is the news on this?
Apple is not going to make a store available for people to make money and not ask for a cut. That is obvious and been going on since iTune store creation. Sounds like Humer Simpson just realized it.
We already heard about IBM, they even announced it and had to back-track.
We also heard previously that Apple had gone to Microsoft to get a lincense for Exchange, which they should have done long ago to ensure there was no issue with that connectivity.
Sorry but I see nothing here.
Was there something here I did not notice that was new or not expected?
Apple is not going to make a store available for people to make money and not ask for a cut. That is obvious and been going on since iTune store creation. Sounds like Humer Simpson just realized it.
We already heard about IBM, they even announced it and had to back-track.
We also heard previously that Apple had gone to Microsoft to get a lincense for Exchange, which they should have done long ago to ensure there was no issue with that connectivity.
Sorry but I see nothing here.
Was there something here I did not notice that was new or not expected?
The fundamental differance is for you to run windows you can buy/torrent/whatever a pice of software for a low price. We on the other hand needs to go out to buy new hardware we nighter want or need. See the differance?
