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Yeah you cannot understand because Apple EarPods is ok just for making phone call in my opinion, at its best. So I don't use it. It is not good for listening to music.
I see a lot of people walking on street using various types of headphones, but few of them just use Apple EarPods.

Please elaborate on this. I use Apple EarPods for calls and music and while they aren't the best they are serviceable. Then again, I use urBeats for Music on the go and they sound about the same without the comfort of the EarPods.

What would be your recommendation for wired in-ear buds that folks will notice a difference in quality of sound?
 
Please elaborate on this. I use Apple EarPods for calls and music and while they aren't the best they are serviceable. Then again, I use urBeats for Music on the go and they sound about the same without the comfort of the EarPods.

What would be your recommendation for wired in-ear buds that folks will notice a difference in quality of sound?
I use Sennheiser MX 100 I think? But since recommending EarPods is too subjective so I don't recommend anything. I choose not using EarPods is the sound I hear from EarPods are too heavy, or flat, based on the music I listen to. I want the music feel balanced. Not too heavy, not crystal clear, not flat. Stretched thin, I want to listen to the true sound of music. Apple EarPods cannot provide such sound so I don't use it.
 
whether is smaller or bigger, who really cares. there's gonna be a new camera regardless on how big the lenses are. slow news day? do people these days get excited about this type of news anymore?
 
Yeah you cannot understand because Apple EarPods is ok just for making phone call in my opinion, at its best. So I don't use it. It is not good for listening to music.
I see a lot of people walking on street using various types of headphones, but few of them just use Apple EarPods.
question is where do you listen to your music? you talking out and about or at home? do you have an ipad? if so couldn't you just use that for music if earbuds are an issue?

personally where i am i have never seen people walking the street in anything other than earbuds
 
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Why would it?

As long as Apple provide ear buds what exactly is the issue if its replaced by better speakers?
At such small distance stereo speakers (if it's in fact will be stereo) are just a gimmick, it won't add anything to the experience. It could help in watching videos but people usually watch videos in landscape. It adds really nothing to experience but removes a huge convenience of the widely adopted audio jack standard and replaces it with an adapter, which is inconvenient.
 
At such small distance stereo speakers (if it's in fact will be stereo) are just a gimmick, it won't add anything to the experience. It could help in watching videos but people usually watch videos in landscape. It adds really nothing to experience but removes a huge convenience of the widely adopted audio jack standard and replaces it with an adapter, which is inconvenient.

Well put. And let me just add, there is no such thing as "better speakers" on a device the size of the iPhone -- only varying degrees of worse.

If they replace the headphone jack with some great new feature -- even if I don't use the feature, I'm all for it. But a second speaker on the same end as the existing one is an insult.
 
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Apple iPhone One X Turbo Edition with Beats Audio™

Oh dude, that 'beats audio' could just might make it in there somewhere...
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Well put. And let me just add, there is no such thing as "better speakers" on a device the size of the iPhone -- only varying degrees of worse.

If they replace the headphone jack with some great new feature -- even if I don't use the feature, I'm all for it. But a second speaker on the same end as the existing one is an insult.

Could be to get more volume from the iPhone rather than a stereo effect?? I dunno, there must be some logic behind it.
 
question is where do you listen to your music? you talking out and about or at home? do you have an ipad? if so couldn't you just use that for music if earbuds are an issue?

personally where i am i have never seen people walking the street in anything other than earbuds
I listen to music in literally anywhere I can. Library, street, bus, train and so on.
I do have an iPad mini but storage is a serious problem so I don't use it to listen to music.
Nevertheless, I have tried EarPods and its sound can barely meet my taste. So no. I don't use EarPods. And, what I see on street is a decent amount of people using various types of earphone or headphone, but few if there is any, people use Apple EarPods for everything.
 
Oh dude, that 'beats audio' could just might make it in there somewhere...
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Could be to get more volume from the iPhone rather than a stereo effect?? I dunno, there must be some logic behind it.
They could also be an improved microphone that is more sensitive for hey Siri commands combined with a louder speaker, that would give us louder feedback by Siri. Anyone thought of that? it could allow us to leave the iPhone a lot further in distance when giving commands and still allow us to hear it's feedback from a reasonable distance.
Much like the Amazon Echo. Instead of a standalone device we could use just an iPhone in combination with the new Apple TV , this could be a killer feature.
Look at the new remote app. Think out of the box. Great for home automation, etc..

Next stop: an Apple Watch 2 with improved microphone and speaker, and an iPad with improves microphones and speakers and a MacBook also.
So one could use Siri as their home system with one device with quite a good range, or when you have them all, and when signed in on one Apple ID , you could use multiple devices and macs that are laying all around the house to improve and enhance the listening abilities of Siri , by combining microphone input of all devices.

My iPad on the nightstand, my iPhone on the dinner table in the living room, my MacBook in my study. My Apple TV Remote on the coffe table .all listening together at hey Siri commands.When I walk in the hallway, all these devices combined could get a clear voice command.

Of course when you have an Apple Watch, it would always get a good voice command from its owner, but it would be difficult to receive voice commands from my son or daughter, when they don' t have an Apple Watch of their own.

Why adding a microphone to the Apple TV for competing with the Amazon echo, when we have all these I devices and macs already?
 
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Oh dude, that 'beats audio' could just might make it in there somewhere...
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Could be to get more volume from the iPhone rather than a stereo effect?? I dunno, there must be some logic behind it.

I have no doubt if the do it that there's some "logic" behind it. The problem is, a slightly louder speaker really isn't worth the trade-off of what they're getting rid of. I tend to doubt it's a speaker anyway, as the current speaker module is about the size of a quarter, and adding a second one would take up an enormous amount of space. Maybe a new noise cancelling mic array, but even that wouldn't need the grille space they've added. One theory discussed previously was if the existing speaker was reduced in size, to make room for something else, so that it had to be spread out into two smaller ones to keep the volume output the same. And perhaps the most interesting reason was to utilize an Apple patent for wireless charging via speaker transducer vibrations. That's the least likely thing I think it will be, but of course totally acceptable if true -- wireless charging with stereo speakers.

The thing that rubs me the wrong way is the rumor that says the headphone jack is being replace by stereo speakers, which would be the biggest waste I can think of.

They could also be an improved microphone that is more sensitive for hey Siri commands combined with a louder speaker, that would give us louder feedback by Siri. Anyone thought of that? it could allow us to leave the iPhone a lot further in distance when giving commands and still allow us to hear it's feedback from a reasonable distance.
Much like the Amazon Echo. Instead of a standalone device we could use just an iPhone in combination with the new Apple TV , this could be a killer feature.
Look at the new remote app. Think out of the box. Great for home automation, etc..

Next stop: an Apple Watch 2 with improved microphone and speaker, and an iPad with improves microphones and speakers and a MacBook also.
So one could use Siri as their home system with one device with quite a good range, or when you have them all, and when signed in on one Apple ID , you could use multiple devices and macs that are laying all around the house to improve and enhance the listening abilities of Siri , by combining microphone input of all devices.

My iPad on the nightstand, my iPhone on the dinner table in the living room, my MacBook in my study. My Apple TV Remote on the coffe table .all listening together at hey Siri commands.When I walk in the hallway, all these devices combined could get a clear voice command.

Of course when you have an Apple Watch, it would always get a good voice command from its owner, but it would be difficult to receive voice commands from my son or daughter, when they don' t have an Apple Watch of their own.

Why adding a microphone to the Apple TV for competing with the Amazon echo, when we have all these I devices and macs already?

Well if that's true, I hope Apple solves the multiple Siri activations on all of my devices at once. When I yell "hey Siri" now, all of my devices (as well as any visitors devices) respond, staggered, depending on their processor speed. It's an absolute mess, as they're taking input from me and each other, and then it goes off the rails and I get nothing. I can't imagine how bad it will be when Siri comes to my MacBook Pro and my iMac.
 
I have no doubt if the do it that there's some "logic" behind it. The problem is, a slightly louder speaker really isn't worth the trade-off of what they're getting rid of. I tend to doubt it's a speaker anyway, as the current speaker module is about the size of a quarter, and adding a second one would take up an enormous amount of space. Maybe a new noise cancelling mic array, but even that wouldn't need the grille space they've added. One theory discussed previously was if the existing speaker was reduced in size, to make room for something else, so that it had to be spread out into two smaller ones to keep the volume output the same. And perhaps the most interesting reason was to utilize an Apple patent for wireless charging via speaker transducer vibrations. That's the least likely thing I think it will be, but of course totally acceptable if true -- wireless charging with stereo speakers.

The thing that rubs me the wrong way is the rumor that says the headphone jack is being replace by stereo speakers, which would be the biggest waste I can think of.



Well if that's true, I hope Apple solves the multiple Siri activations on all of my devices at once. When I yell "hey Siri" now, all of my devices (as well as any visitors devices) respond, staggered, depending on their processor speed. It's an absolute mess, as they're taking input from me and each other, and then it goes off the rails and I get nothing. I can't imagine how bad it will be when Siri comes to my MacBook Pro and my iMac.
If idevices will have a more sensitive and better mic, perhaps they will be able to calculate by your voice input, which device is closest to you and respond through that device.

I don' t know, but current rumors that Apple is working on an enhanced Apple TV or mic/speaker supplement for current Apple TVs to compete with Amazon echo, seems such a waste of macs and idevices people may have in their house.
 
If this is the actual final design, I probably won't get one. It's that ugly to me. At some point the details have to matter, and the details are starting to be all wrong. Huge wasted bezel space, magnified camera bump that isn't flush with the device, antenna lines still present. It just seems so quickly thrown together.
 
You should wait until Apple has an actual redesign before saying that. From all reports these look very similar to the iPhone 6 and 6s.

If you're complaining about the removal of antenna stripes that everyone called ugly two years ago, it really seems capricious (hate for hate's sake). If you always thought the iPhone 6 was ugly, your comment is stale.
I'm complaining that they are ugly, whether they are genuine or not is irrelevant.
 
A friend of mine has a 6s and I have a 5s (will upgrade to the 7 I guess, I just need a new phone), and when we were comparing the camera to see the difference we both agreed that the 5s is the better performer in low light. Also the 6s' front camera makes you look like a painting if the lighting is not good.

Which is why I'm confused that everyone was salivating over the jump to 12MP. That would have been fine IF the sensor size had increased, but it remains at what, 1/3"? Even the most inexpensive consumer point and shoots have 1/2.3" which is still tiny but would represent a huge spec increase for the iPhone. It's the megapixel battle all over again! Don't get me wrong - I've taken some pretty good pictures outside with the SE but inside and in low light is marginal at best and in many cases, a complete joke.
 
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Which is why I'm confused that everyone was salivating over the jump to 12MP. That would have been fine IF the sensor size had increased, but it remains at what, 1/3"? Even the most inexpensive consumer point and shoots have 1/2.3" which is still tiny but would represent a huge spec increase for the iPhone. It's the megapixel battle all over again! Don't get me wrong - I've taken some pretty good pictures outside with the SE but inside and in low light is marginal at best and in many cases, a complete joke.
I feel like Nokia made Lumia 1020 to show that megapixels don't actually matter, I mean the camera on it was nothing special.
 
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