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Can't comment on the smaller model, but iPhone 7+ will be a very good upgrade.
 
I bet $100 Apple negates iPhone 7 branding for these phones.

That's a big call buddy. What would it be.... The New iPhone, iPhone Pro, iPhone, iPhone Air... lolz.

My money is they'll stick with iPhone 7. Too many models in the phone range floating around and these look just like the 6.... but hey, they could surprise us.
 
Apple has made the iphones so thin that there will always be a camera bump. The more advanced and sophisticated the cameras become...it's unavoidable. Being a travel blogger who uses my iPhone as my travel camera, I can totally live with that. Others seem so obsessed about the camera bump it borders on psychosis.

Is it just me or is the SE camera much worse in low light than the old 5S camera? Perhaps the smaller pixel size? My night pictures, esp indoors, remind me of the first time I strapped a Logitech to the top of my old Windows tube monitor...in 2001.

That said, while outside shots are decent I'm convinced the phone will never replace the dedicated camera for anything worth printing or saving so these marginal upgrades are none other than hype.
 
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I like the camera bump, i oike it even more on the iphone 7, its size fits the phones's design better than un the iphone 6.. It was so small
 
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I agree that the better camera is worth the bump, but I think the point people are making is they could fill out the phone's thickness to match the camera and add a lot more battery. That's really the best option of all.

No thanks. Do not want a heavier phone, nor one that's larger. Apple has struck the right balance of engineering trades.
 
Apple has made the iphones so thin that there will always be a camera bump. The more advanced and sophisticated the cameras become...it's unavoidable. Being a travel blogger who uses my iPhone as my travel camera, I can totally live with that. Others seem so obsessed about the camera bump it borders on psychosis.

Well then why not leave a bump for the headphone socket they seem intent on removing?
Apples new iphone7 looks like it will be exactly the same as the iphone 6s, which was exactly the same as the 6 (so much so it had to come up with 'its the same but completely different' marketing crapola), and the iphone 6 itself was playing catchup to the android midrange market of 2013 with its laughable 'retina' hd screen, its HUGE BEZELS, and advanced (for 2010) iOS software, which now has been well overtaken by android in my opinion (the OS, not the Apps).
Apple has superior apps due to being best on the market first, and still riding that wave.
While I love apples Macbook Pros (and waiting for them to eventually update the fecker as I cannot bring myself to buy 3 yr old processors for almost 3000 bucks), they seemed to have all but abandoned the computing sector to focus on the 'I upgrade my $500 phone every year' brigade.
I feel Apple has run out of ideas for their mobile range years ago.
The Iphone 4s was way ahead of the game back in 2010. Since then they ran out of ideas - No innovation since.
And as for the headphone socket removal - madness.
What next - we dont want the camera bump so we are taking away the camera??
 
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Is it just me or is the SE camera much worse in low light than the old 5S camera? Perhaps the smaller pixel size? My night pictures, esp indoors, remind me of the first time I strapped a Logitech to the top of my old Windows tube monitor...in 2001.

That said, while outside shots are decent I'm convinced the phone will never replace the dedicated camera for anything worth printing or saving so these marginal upgrades are none other than hype.

Get a LG G4 for top of the range camera which will totally blow away the current iphone cameras (LG make awesome phones btw).
Or at double the prince a Samsung S7 if you can tolerate the samsung experience (which I cant).
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C'mon apple, enough trimming iPhones. The thinness of the iPhone 5/5s/SE hits the spot IMO.

Hi.Have you not worked it out yet?
The Apple 7s will bring back the headphone socket and they will market it as the iPhone Classic - genius.
 
The design depicted here is very boring and maybe even off putting. I'm sure Apple will sell a ton, but I think this cycle will be a real opportunity for competitors to gain some serious ground. Then again, these are just rumors.
 
I bet $100 Apple negates iPhone 7 branding for these phones.
That was my prediction. This is coined the iPhone Pro, which would make sense of the Pro rumors, and also explain why it's not radically different-looking than the 6S. The 7 will be released next year,
perhaps.
 
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Is it just me or is the SE camera much worse in low light than the old 5S camera? Perhaps the smaller pixel size? My night pictures, esp indoors, remind me of the first time I strapped a Logitech to the top of my old Windows tube monitor...in 2001.

That said, while outside shots are decent I'm convinced the phone will never replace the dedicated camera for anything worth printing or saving so these marginal upgrades are none other than hype.
A friend of mine has a 6s and I have a 5s (will upgrade to the 7 I guess, I just need a new phone), and when we were comparing the camera to see the difference we both agreed that the 5s is the better performer in low light. Also the 6s' front camera makes you look like a painting if the lighting is not good.
 
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It would be hard to believe these aren't really the upcoming iPhones in this day and age. Looks pretty legit.
Er no! The dual lens camera might be right but that big disc for the single lens camera doesn't seem right at all. The problem is this, if that is the lens it would imply a focal length longer that the phone is thick. Even a folded optical system would be difficult in that space.

So from my stand point something is fishy with that dime sized lens.
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I cannot be the only one thinking Apple is screwing around with us. Every leak is different from the other. :rolleyes:

Three phones. Two phones. Headphone jack, no headphone jack...
Gotta keep them guessing.

I do believe that some of this stuff is carefully managed by Apple. Not all of it mind you but enough mixed messages to keep people guessing and thus interested in the product.
 
Er no! The dual lens camera might be right but that big disc for the single lens camera doesn't seem right at all. The problem is this, if that is the lens it would imply a focal length longer that the phone is thick. Even a folded optical system would be difficult in that space.

So from my stand point something is fishy with that dime sized lens.
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Gotta keep them guessing.

I do believe that some of this stuff is carefully managed by Apple. Not all of it mind you but enough mixed messages to keep people guessing and thus interested in the product.
It could simply be a larger sensor that they were able to fit in by curving the sensor or something. Possibly to keep image quality a little closer to the dual cameras in the plus.
 
I agree that the better camera is worth the bump, but I think the point people are making is they could fill out the phone's thickness to match the camera and add a lot more battery. That's really the best option of all.
True. I agree. I wouldn't mind a slightly thicker iphone for a bigger battery. But with Apple's obssession with thinness...I just think it's pointless to get upset about.
 
Ugly, i don't buy android phones mainly because of their ulgy back, why a big protuberent eye as camera?
Well if that is the actual lens there are good technical reasons for a large objective. The number one reason being that they gather more light. Often a lens that is large in diameter compared to its focal length is referred to as a fast lens. This can be a good thing in a camera as a wide aperture allows for more creativity when composing pictures. At least it does on a cemera, cell phones lack controls for creative photography.

The problem with this picture is that such a large diameter lens implies a focal length that is beyond the thickness of Apples cell phones. Even an extremely fast lens of say F1.2 would end up with a thicker cell phone. There are ways to compress this with additional lenses or by folding the optical path, but again this requires thickness. Honestly I think somebody is pulling our legs here. Mainly because I have a hard time imagining how they can create an optical path for a lens that big in diameter and keep thickness under control. Given that I do realize that there are lots of things happening in the world of optics that deviate from traditional optical approaches.

So any ways why? Because they could potentially vastly improve the camera. Especially when it comes to low light performance. I just don't see how it could work in this case though.
 
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My thoughts too...If it is true, they are definitely going into a different direction from aesthetics...wonder how old school apple supporters feel. Plz don't say its progress. thats ugly as **** if that is what will come in Sept.
Everyone criticized the camera bump at the start. Now they seemed to have accepted it, not to mention that every other Android phone manufacturer is putting camera bumps of their own.

I think it's one of those things which won't be as bad in real world usage as people are making it out to be.
 
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The single camera bump looks awful. At least - and it pains me to say this - the 5.5 dual camera bump looks visually more appealing.

Still, why is this still a thing? Fatter phone or smaller camera module Jony - pick one.
Not that I subscribe to this mentality, but some think it is easier to hold a much thinner phone. In that sense it is much more practically to have the phone thinner where you hold it and thicker only where it needs to be.

I would be more than happy to have the whole phone beefed up a bit and perhaps battery added to fill the void, though that also might make it prohibitively heavy (again, only for some).
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Everyone criticized the camera bump at the start. Now they seemed to have accepted it, not to mention that every other Android phone manufacturer is putting camera bumps of their own.

I think it's one of those things which won't be as bad in real world usage as people are making it out to be.
To be fair, camera bumps were a relative norm with android before Apple ever adopted it.
 
Apple has made the iphones so thin that there will always be a camera bump. The more advanced and sophisticated the cameras become...it's unavoidable. Being a travel blogger who uses my iPhone as my travel camera, I can totally live with that. Others seem so obsessed about the camera bump it borders on psychosis.
Psychosis? Maybe not but it is certainly complete ignorance. More so I'm willing to bet that the very same people complaining about the bump wrap their iPhone in a case and never see the bump again.
 
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