Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
There is absolutely NO reason for iPhone to feature camera bumps.

iPhone SE depth: 7.6mm. iPhone 6/6s depth: 6.9mm/7.1mm.
The difference is 0.7mm/0.5mm.

Something can and should be trimmed in and around the camera assembly or the body and battery increased.

This 7 camera bump design is completely wrong, total rubbish design on many levels.
 
For most users that bump is a very good thing wether or not they realize it. The bump leads directly to the extremely good performance you see out of Apples cell phones today. Without the bump you wouldn't have the picture quality that we have now.

As for that dime sized lens opening, it is a bit of a mystery what is going on there if the picture is ligit. It just strikes me as too large for a conventional lens.
Well, most people are going to use a case on their phone anyways, which offsets the camera bump. Have you seen the size of the camera bumps on the Samsung s7 and G5?!?
 
Er no! The dual lens camera might be right but that big disc for the single lens camera doesn't seem right at all. The problem is this, if that is the lens it would imply a focal length longer that the phone is thick. Even a folded optical system would be difficult in that space.

So from my stand point something is fishy with that dime sized lens.
[doublepost=1466864368][/doublepost]
Gotta keep them guessing.

I do believe that some of this stuff is carefully managed by Apple. Not all of it mind you but enough mixed messages to keep people guessing and thus interested in the product.
Only one part of that hole will be reserved for the actual lens, like in every iPhone and phone on the market, so it's almost certainly legit...
As you can see here.
macro_iphone_6_plus_isight_camera_truetone_flash_1.jpg
 
No thanks. Do not want a heavier phone, nor one that's larger. Apple has struck the right balance of engineering trades.
Actually, Apple hasn't struck the right balance here. Increasing the phone thickness by 0.5mm will not make the phone heavier. Bezels, headphone jacks, full metal casing with added antenna cutouts make iphone heavier.
 
  • Like
Reactions: DanJBS
Although the lack of the usual redesign for the iPhone 7 is upsetting to some people, it makes sense. Apple is saving it's radical redesign for the 10th anniversary iphone in 2017. That's just the way it is. The iPhone 7 May not be exciting, but it will still have some changes. I think less people are upgrading their iphones EVERY year now. I'm sure their iphone 6s and the upcoming iphone 7 will be fine until the radical redesign of the iPhone 8.
The Tech and new design just wasn't ready this year. I don't think they are only waiting for iPhone's 10th birthday to pass.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Vanilla35
Expect RAW capture along with new editing tools using the new Core Image RAW processing APIs.

As a photographer, that's huge and enough for me to upgrade.

Which is probably why it's only rumored to show up on the Plus. I totally get a photographer jumping on this phone regardless of what else it offers, or what it looks like, or whether it has a headphone jack. But that's not the primary target customer Apple has to market to in order to sell 200 million of these.

It will be interesting to watch.
 
Thicker iPhone, larger battery, fast charging, and we will be happy. No camera bump. No or few antenna lines.
Hey Apple, do you ever want to hire someone in the wild to boost "innovation"?
 
  • Like
Reactions: amegicfox
Is it just me or is the SE camera much worse in low light than the old 5S camera? Perhaps the smaller pixel size? My night pictures, esp indoors, remind me of the first time I strapped a Logitech to the top of my old Windows tube monitor...in 2001.

That said, while outside shots are decent I'm convinced the phone will never replace the dedicated camera for anything worth printing or saving so these marginal upgrades are none other than hype.
Yeah mine has a lot of noise in low light under some conditions. But truthfully so does my 6SPlus at times.
 
Which is probably why it's only rumored to show up on the Plus. I totally get a photographer jumping on this phone regardless of what else it offers, or what it looks like, or whether it has a headphone jack. But that's not the primary target customer Apple has to market to in order to sell 200 million of these.

It will be interesting to watch.

Well... If it doesn't have a substantially better camera that captures in RAW format, I won't be jumping on it. My 6+ is working fine for the time being.

RAW capture and processing is really the only new feature I'm looking for. I could not care less about there being a bump or not. My phone is a tool, not a fashion statement - that's for others without a life to obsess about.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: s15119
Everyone criticized the camera bump at the start. Now they seemed to have accepted it, not to mention that every other Android phone manufacturer is putting camera bumps of their own.

I think it's one of those things which won't be as bad in real world usage as people are making it out to be.
No, quite the opposite. Everyone criticized the camera bump at the start. They haven't accepted it and continue to criticize it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Vanilla35
It's going to be a tough decision for those on the annual upgrade installment plans.

Option A: Upgrade "for free"
But you have to turn in a perfectly good phone, pay another activation fee, buy a new case, transfer Applecare and Forfeit year of payments for your 6S

Option B: Keep paying for your 6S and Own it
you don't have the "latest" phone and there always is that one gimmick that new models get (but isn't actually properly implemented until the next next gen. Retina, 64bit, TouchID, 3DTouch...)

I think most annual upgraders are used to justifying the replacement but this year just feels so different. I'm sure the iPhone 7 is a solid device but next years iPhone X will be the ultimate iPhone.


Thats where I'm at now. I have updated yearly but now I have the larger size in the 6s Plus and I'm loving OS 10 i don't see huge reason to upgrade yearly. I think this will be the first time I go a full 2 years..unless the hype gets to me lol
 
  • Like
Reactions: koigirl
So larger camera for iPhone 7 and 2 smaller ones for iPhone 7 Pro? Meticuluosly confusing...
 
Apple?

OMG, can you understand the concept of "rumor"? This doesn't come from Apple.

You'll only know how the next iPhone will be in the September event, until now, have fun complaining about the fakes.
[doublepost=1466866875][/doublepost]

Have fun finding an Andeoid without that.

Disgusting!
Yeah,

Go to Android . There are about 2 models without a bulging camera. Good luck...
[doublepost=1466867468][/doublepost]
I agree, I wanted a 6s plus for work, but actually preferred the regular 6plus, because it is a little bit thinner and quite less heavy.
Ill be dumping my smart phone altogether if the design degrades further and get back to a basics phone. I can manage my business via the Mac.
 
Er no! The dual lens camera might be right but that big disc for the single lens camera doesn't seem right at all. The problem is this, if that is the lens it would imply a focal length longer that the phone is thick. Even a folded optical system would be difficult in that space.

That big circle cutout is probably for 2 small cameras under one larger piece of glass. It looks a lot better than the pill shaped camera cutout.
 
There is absolutely NO reason for iPhone to feature camera bumps.

iPhone SE depth: 7.6mm. iPhone 6/6s depth: 6.9mm/7.1mm.
The difference is 0.7mm/0.5mm.

Something can and should be trimmed in and around the camera assembly or the body and battery increased.

This 7 camera bump design is completely wrong, total rubbish design on many levels.
Normally I hate to be fussy about the looks because I use cases...now--I didn't always for my 5s and iPhone 4. But that backside on this rumored IPhone 7 makes it look goggle eyed. Like this: ;)
I lol'ed when I saw it. It's comical looking, as is the "Bender" iPhone 7Plus.

I'm not sure why people are scared of a little weight if we can get the thickness up to where the lens protrudes less and we can fit a slightly bigger battery in as a bonus. I wouldn't mind a bit thicker and shave some off the top, bottom and sides like the Samsung 7Edge did. I held that and compared it to my 6Splus and the Samsung was more pleasant to hold for being less wide, though slippery as hell with all that glass. And yeah it has a really ugly camera bulge sticking out in an awkward place in the center toward the top. So I don't hold it out as the ideal design in all ways. But the dimensions make it feel less like a sushi plate than my Plus. So I do appreciate it feels better to hold.

The 6SPlus is too slab like to hold comfortably for its dimensions. I need the Apple silicone case so I can keep a grip on it.

I've been reading a lot of your posts and know you've got a strong appreciation for design. What model among the competition do you feel gets it right or closer to right than Apple currently does? I'm talking just in terms of aesthetics. I've seen a few Chinese knockoffs that looked good at first glance. I didn't bother trying to remember who made them, though.
 
I really don't see the issue with having a camera that sticks out by what 2mm's. When you put your iPhone in a case that said case makes the bump disappear. If I means we get a better camera surely that's a good thing?
 
I think the poster is implying that Apple is providing these leaks on purpose to throw people off. I might subscribe to this mindset if it wasn't suggested every year, and then, the thing leaked 3+ months before launch actually turns out to be the exact product Apple makes.

Just because it happened in the past.

Ill be dumping my smart phone altogether if the design degrades further and get back to a basics phone. I can manage my business via the Mac.

Yeah, I don't care either. Buy a SE if that's the problem.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.