Latest ARKit Demo Showcases Virtual Drawing

[Chrjy]

“Sure Apple is behind in VR/AR, Microsoft and Google are so much advanced.”

Apple are able to do this with a product that many people have on them all the time and has sold by the truck load e.g. iPhone/iPad

As much as the likes of HoloLens is awesome (working at Microsoft I have tried it numerous times) Apple have made this accessible to the everyday user which gives them the upper hand IMO.

 

[naeS1Sean]

Couldn't disagree more.
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I think the lenses will certainly come. And then an years later, an implant; perhaps from Musk's comapny

Yeah...I think you're right.

 

[subjonas]

I really think AR glasses will be the eventual end of traditional monitors. Unlimited displays of unlimited size arranged however you desire. You can opt to have them anchored to the world, anchored to your view, or a combination of both. The flexibility will be astounding, possibilities endless.

And with digital drawing on real surfaces--when it gains pressure sensitivity and (greatly) improves in accuracy (with a pen, not finger of course), digital artists won't need Cintiq monitors anymore either.

Exciting times ahead.

So when is ARKit coming to macOS?

 

[mudflap]

Call me a pessimist, but I just don't see any practical use in real life, nothing more than a gimmick, just like holograms when they showed them in Star Wars, 40 years later no practical use for everyday.

Don't get me wrong, nice to see companies investing in new technologies, but just because it's new and flashy, doesn't mean it's useful, and yes, like every new thing it will have a niche, but not an everyday use for regular people.

How about remote repairs? Surgery?

 

[JosephAW]

oh my - this is really crazy - the app store will be filled with apps on day 1 - sure some of them will be crap but they will be some amazing stuff for IOS users to enjoy - a huge leg up on the competition
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sounds like they are going with 64GB and 256GB - giving we have 3 models with multiple permutations that should help with supply at least for the S models.

AR version of flappy bird

 

[Zirel]

It’s frustrating that Apple doesn’t have a beta section up in the App Store. In situations like this, where I run the iOS betas, I would love to have some of these AR betas on my iPad to play with, knowing, that since they are betas, that they might crash, or otherwise not function properly.

If you know Xcode and have a Mac, you can download the Apple’s demo App...
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Apple are able to do this with a product that many people have on them all the time and has sold by the truck load e.g. iPhone/iPad

As much as the likes of HoloLens is awesome (working at Microsoft I have tried it numerous times) Apple have made this accessible to the everyday user which gives them the upper hand IMO.

Thing is that while Hololens is cool, it’s something Apple can easily do.

Microsoft Holelens and Google Tango are using PrimeSense chips, and the company was bought by Apple a long time ago...

Apple doesn’t even need to buy primesense chips, because those chips are just heavily protected software.

 

[Mac_Bcn]

the only need now to unblock the fullscreen option on the browsers (Safari, Chrome,..), make no sense to block this under iOS wenn is working on OS X, Windows & Android.

 

[javco]

Really thought he was going to draw something else.

LOL thought the same here

 

[44267547]

Call me a pessimist, but I just don't see any practical use in real life, nothing more than a gimmick, just like holograms when they showed them in Star Wars, 40 years later no practical use for everyday.

You're not a pessimist, you're just very closed
Minded about the possibilities of Augmented reality and it's advancements. It's still in its infancy and primarily is just now showing it's basic capabilities. Augmented reality will be huge for the gaming and media industry, expanding in application use for measurement, drawing, etc. The developers are the one's who will be leaders with furthering its capabilities and possibilities. It's way to early to label this as a "Gimmick", especially being its current stages.

 

[hotgril]

“Sure Apple is behind in VR/AR, Microsoft and Google are so much advanced because they released a couple of juicy press releases and pretty demos in controlled environments.”

This is exactly what happens. Nobody hears much from Apple, and they don't generate much hype until they actually release the final product. And Google axes like 90% of what they release a year after.
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Call me a pessimist, but I just don't see any practical use in real life, nothing more than a gimmick, just like holograms when they showed them in Star Wars, 40 years later no practical use for everyday.

Don't get me wrong, nice to see companies investing in new technologies, but just because it's new and flashy, doesn't mean it's useful, and yes, like every new thing it will have a niche, but not an everyday use for regular people.

Companies focus on the gimmicky stuff with these demos, but AR technology is useful for other things, or at least the developments to make it possible are useful. An example of the second case: augmented reality relies on surface detection, which autonomous vehicles and drones also need.

Also, in general, it takes either imagination or intuition to see what things can be useful for later. If you think of what people use today, some is based on technology that nobody thought was useful 30 years ago.
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Apple are able to do this with a product that many people have on them all the time and has sold by the truck load e.g. iPhone/iPad

As much as the likes of HoloLens is awesome (working at Microsoft I have tried it numerous times) Apple have made this accessible to the everyday user which gives them the upper hand IMO.

Also, GPU support is always a PitA when you have really diverse hardware. Apple has a nice, controlled set of chips in play. And they also tend to have the most powerful ones of that generation.

 

[EdT]

Ok, this isn't a knock on the technology, it's me admitting I have no drawing ability whatsoever. If I tried to draw the object in the demo, it would look like I was using my left foot to draw with. While drunk. During an earthquake. And that's after 2 or 3 years of practice.

 

[Tech198]

Where's the bloody pencil.. You gotta have a pencil,,, but not actually draw,,, That's what makes it "feels like"

If things could leap off the page like that.... that would be pretty cool

 

[s1m]

Call me a pessimist, but I just don't see any practical use in real life, nothing more than a gimmick, just like holograms when they showed them in Star Wars, 40 years later no practical use for everyday.

Don't get me wrong, nice to see companies investing in new technologies, but just because it's new and flashy, doesn't mean it's useful, and yes, like every new thing it will have a niche, but not an everyday use for regular people.

One of the early demos I saw was of measuring. Seems simple but I don't carry a tape measure with me at all times but if I could measure spaces at home then retain an image of that shape on my phone, I could then place objects into that space when looking at them. I could measure a wardrobe to see if it will fit in a space.

For years designers have had fancy apps that can style your house, change paint colours, put in furniture. Now you could potentially do that with your phone.

You could put your furniture in place in a new house you are looking at.

I am designing my new garden so I could get an image of that or in real time change things in the garden and see how a new garden would look.

I too want AR lenses that can feed me information - the ability to look up and have the person's name, the last time I met them, upcoming meetings and shared projects would be great.

 

[nikicampos]

One of the early demos I saw was of measuring. Seems simple but I don't carry a tape measure with me at all times but if I could measure spaces at home then retain an image of that shape on my phone, I could then place objects into that space when looking at them. I could measure a wardrobe to see if it will fit in a space.

For years designers have had fancy apps that can style your house, change paint colours, put in furniture. Now you could potentially do that with your phone.

You could put your furniture in place in a new house you are looking at.

I am designing my new garden so I could get an image of that or in real time change things in the garden and see how a new garden would look.

I too want AR lenses that can feed me information - the ability to look up and have the person's name, the last time I met them, upcoming meetings and shared projects would be great.

That's not an everyday use, unless you move houses every week, by that logic every new invention is useful.

And no, the entire world is not going to use glasses just to use AR.

 

[Dorje Sylas]

Call me a pessimist, but I just don't see any practical use in real life, nothing more than a gimmick, just like holograms when they showed them in Star Wars, 40 years later no practical use for everyday.

The difference is the holograms in Star Wars were Hollywood FX fantasy. They were also confined to static positions and have the functional use that a Flatscreen does. People just looked at the holograms.

Apple AR kit is blowing the minds of developers and anyone who lives at the crossroads of the Real and Digital because it is interactive.

Very immediately this has practical applications in architecture and design. At a consumer grade level, this applies to home remolding and repair projects. Using the ARKit system to do room scans, and then populate/rearrange furniture or preview possible structural changes.

For home repair and maintenance, take all of those "How to fix X" YouTube videos and turn them into AR live guides. Everything from toilets to car engines. How about an AR Repair guide to your washing machine or dryer? Any object that already has a digital (CAD) blueprint of its production model could be turned into a live Virtual object, and aligned (as the example of the writing shows) to an identifiable real world object.

Actually, take any "How to..." physical activity video from YouTube and you can likely find a way to set it up as an AR guide.

While the early stage of the AR Kit may not be perfect tracking and object recognition, it's close enough to show the technology is heading very quickly in the right direction.

What currently gets in the way is having to devote one hand to holding the Phone, which is why people want Glasses to go with AR. Although currently wearing something like the Samsuns Gear VR (with an opening for outward facing camera) could be a temporary solution.

If you don't think any of this is "everyday user" level, then you need to take a spin through Do-It-Yourself project boards more often. Plenty of people undertake amateur home and appliance repair instead of hiring "professionals". It's why Do-It-Yourself repair videos even exist as a category on YouTube. You can search "How to Repair a TV" and you'll get thousands of hits just in videos. Many of those could become interactive AR guides from the manufacturers themselves. If sites like iFixIt don't jump on AR repair guides I'll be very surprised.

 

[nikicampos]

The difference is the holograms in Star Wars were Hollywood FX fantasy. They were also confined to static positions and have the functional use that a Flatscreen does. People just looked at the holograms.

Apple AR kit is blowing the minds of developers and anyone who lives at the crossroads of the Real and Digital because it is interactive.

Very immediately this has practical applications in architecture and design. At a consumer grade level, this applies to home remolding and repair projects. Using the ARKit system to do room scans, and then populate/rearrange furniture or preview possible structural changes.

For home repair and maintenance, take all of those "How to fix X" YouTube videos and turn them into AR live guides. Everything from toilets to car engines. How about an AR Repair guide to your washing machine or dryer? Any object that already has a digital (CAD) blueprint of its production model could be turned into a live Virtual object, and aligned (as the example of the writing shows) to an identifiable real world object.

Actually, take any "How to..." physical activity video from YouTube and you can likely find a way to set it up as an AR guide.

While the early stage of the AR Kit may not be perfect tracking and object recognition, it's close enough to show the technology is heading very quickly in the right direction.

What currently gets in the way is having to devote one hand to holding the Phone, which is why people want Glasses to go with AR. Although currently wearing something like the Samsuns Gear VR (with an opening for outward facing camera) could be a temporary solution.

If you don't think any of this is "everyday user" level, then you need to take a spin through Do-It-Yourself project boards more often. Plenty of people undertake amateur home and appliance repair instead of hiring "professionals". It's why Do-It-Yourself repair videos even exist as a category on YouTube. You can search "How to Repair a TV" and you'll get thousands of hits just in videos. Many of those could become interactive AR guides from the manufacturers themselves. If sites like iFixIt don't jump on AR repair guides I'll be very surprised.

Oh sorry, my bad, that's why Google Glass was such a hit right /s

 

[mi7chy]

Yawn... Welcome to 2013. And, the usability and input lag would be terrible.

 

[Dorje Sylas]

Oh sorry, my bad, that's why Google Glass was such a hit right /s

Google Glasses were 1) Expensive, 2) Early. They didn't have wide scale accessibility that ARKit does, nor did they have the software to back them up. Eventually, we'll get to a point where wearable projection displays are in an affordable price range. But not right away. Until then we'll just have fumble one handed with a phone, or go for wearable (VR-like) head mounts for them.

And if that's your only response to the value of AR Guided Repairs, then you can be IBM and wonder what anyone would need with a Personal Computer in the first place. Or better yet, be one of those people who questioned what an oversized iPod (the iPad) will be used for.

Such AR guides and assistance are already in use in industry and will make the leap into the general user's hands.

Yawn... Welcome to 2013. And, the usability and input lag would be terrible.

So far with the ARKit projects being shown and discussed, no one has mentioned any kind of noticeable lag. Most seem to be praising the system for its responsiveness, even in unoptimized early tech demos.

 

[EdT]

That's not an everyday use, unless you move houses every week, by that logic every new invention is useful.

And no, the entire world is not going to use glasses just to use AR.

Definitely speak for yourself. It's not my real job but most weekends I am working on my or someone else's house. I have downloaded probably a dozen apps over the years to try to measure and layout rooms, in something that I can trust the measurements. Once again, I'm not a pro. My sister sized new custom cabinets for her kitchen. Pretty much everything installed as it was supposed to....except the vent for the range hood. The vent is going out horizontally through a wall, and the hole in the wall ( and therefore the back of the cabinet) is 5 inches to one side, and too low. We've been told a short elbow will restrict airflow, making the vent somewhere between feeble and useless. There is already modeling software available for iPads, if I could get accurate dimensions I could have a sheet metal house build a box with the inlet and outlet holes in their proper places. Probably trashes that cabinet as far as storage but that's probably the cheapest option she has.

YOU may not have uses, but I can think of a dozen pretty quickly. It depends on how accurate, and what software can use it, but if it works it can save you money even if you aren't doing the work yourself. A contractor gives you a bid on putting a new floor in an odd shaped room and tells you the price is based on square footage of materials required. Square rooms are easy, but ones with curves or protrusions? Might tell you if someone is lying- or not very good with estimates. It could also alert you if the bid is too low, and the guy is going to hit you up for more money or tell you he's done when the materials or hours eat up his bid. Yes he agreed to do it for X dollars. Yes, if it gets to court you will probably win. if he doesn't go bankrupt, or just skip town.

 

[jeremiah256]

Call me a pessimist, but I just don't see any practical use in real life, nothing more than a gimmick, just like holograms when they showed them in Star Wars, 40 years later no practical use for everyday.

Don't get me wrong, nice to see companies investing in new technologies, but just because it's new and flashy, doesn't mean it's useful, and yes, like every new thing it will have a niche, but not an everyday use for regular people.

What gives me hope is that most of these demo have been from small shops or hobbyist. And several have made impressive demonstrations using a beta OS and beta IDE. Yes, WWDC 2017 gave us a taste of what a larger development studio can do, but I'm thinking we haven't seen anything yet. Especially since I'm also seeing a lot of love in developer circles for what Apple has done for CoreML and Vision.

 

[jonnysods]

Call me a pessimist, but I just don't see any practical use in real life, nothing more than a gimmick, just like holograms when they showed them in Star Wars, 40 years later no practical use for everyday.

Don't get me wrong, nice to see companies investing in new technologies, but just because it's new and flashy, doesn't mean it's useful, and yes, like every new thing it will have a niche, but not an everyday use for regular people.

There's a few things off the top of my head:

A new way to play boardgames? Or video games but anywhere in the world?

What about furniture stores and dropping tables and chairs from any company in the world in your room to see if it fits? Maybe one day you can try paint colors without leaving your house.

There's some crazy applications that would be pretty unreal.

 

[FactVsOpinion]

AR is still one of the very few techie things I just do not understand. I've seen so many demos of this stuff and gone through several training's on how to program, yet it bores me. I'm glad people are excited about something.. but again I just don't do not get it at all.

Imagine no need for screens or input devices, all digital content can be displayed and interacted with in the real world, in full 3D. In addition, the AR measuring tape app is just a glimpse of how even physical tools can be replaced.

It takes some imagination, but I think what is eventually realized will surpass even what we can imagine.
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That's not an everyday use, unless you move houses every week, by that logic every new invention is useful.

And no, the entire world is not going to use glasses just to use AR.

Wanna bet?

 

[jeremiah256]

There's a few things off the top of my head:

A new way to play boardgames? Or video games but anywhere in the world?

What about furniture stores and dropping tables and chairs from any company in the world in your room to see if it fits? Maybe one day you can try paint colors without leaving your house.

There's some crazy applications that would be pretty unreal.

Business:
New employee onboarding. See the layout of the building and the spaces you're going to be working in before you even start. When you arrive, if you need help getting around, your appointments are in the onboarding app with arrows and 'Enter Here' signs ready to assist and keep you on schedule.

Personal:
Memories: Experiences will be recording in ways not easily possible before. I see a lot of business popping up to scan births, birthdays, recreate childhood homes, etc. Go to a field and walk through grandma's house. Maybe even have her as the guide (AR or not, you'd still best not touch her knick knacks!).

Entertainment:
Graffiti: Not only will artists be able to do what they want without actually damaging property, but now they can work in 3D and with motion. I'm thinking Chicano Park in San Diego, but on steroids.

 

[s1m]

That's not an everyday use, unless you move houses every week, by that logic every new invention is useful.

And no, the entire world is not going to use glasses just to use AR.

They were just some examples. Every week I am doing some job at the house that could benefit from this sort of thing.

 

[iop]

My guess this will be disabled on all devices prior to iphone 6s.