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All the people who claimed they returned their iPad Pros when beta 1 didn’t allow more than 5 GB of RAM per app must feel really silly right about now 🙃
I returned my 1TB 12.9 iPad Pro and dropped down to a 256GB model and don't have any regrets. I figured they'd eventually let Devs access more RAM, but if I really end up feeling the strain I'll just sell upgrade next year. 🤷‍♂️ In the meantime I saved myself that extra $600 in the process.
 
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What you say in essence is true,but I think it is more complex then to say it just lacks swapping. If you look at the docs from Apple, you will find both IOS and MacOS initially started with the BSD/OSF- more or less.. But due to intended market for both users and the apps design/needs along with just HW constrains(ram/memory,screen size/heat/power/etc) they took different evolutionary paths of memory virtualization/support. And it was was a reasonable even necessary design decison.

It will be interesting now that HW constrains are mostly eliminated, Apple might-over time- pull these platforms closer ot some equivalent memory/app support. However, I suspect the user experience to not take the same path- i.e. IOS probably will not become MacOS. To do so would be a step backward for Apple's vision of computing. Just my thoughts.
Thanks for clarifying- as I say I really don’t know. I’m just relaying what I have learnt and/or assumed 🙂
 
Good. Now maybe the anti-Apple/"I'm returning my M1 Pro, call a waaahmbulance for me" crowd will at least put down their pitchforks for a bit.

Did they really think it was going to be limited to 5GBs forever? C'mon. Some people really have it out for what is IMO the greatest technology company in existence today.
 
Now apps like Baidu can do crypto mining in the background even faster maliciously. When you have those apps open, you just know that it’s using your phone to do unrelated computation. Idling on a simple web page while connected to the internet should not consume 60%+ of the CPU.
Any source in this or just a rumor? I’d like to read more about it, because I’ve never heard anyone experience this before.
 
This is great news, looking forward to seeing how it goes on the 2020 iPad Pro, even on it it felt as though the RAM was not being fully utilized, even better news with those who have the 16GB RAM M1 iPad Pros. iPad OS 15 just got a little sweeter, will continue waiting for the Public Beta.
 
Here's the thing.

You don't need to understand other peoples desired or required workflows for them to be valid. Not everyone has the same needs or desires as you, but when Apple advertises as they did again recently that iPad can fully replace a computer... yes, people are going to be mad when they buy a fully loaded iPad Pro for $2700 and find it can't get the job done due to artificial limitations from software decisions Apple makes.


Also, hate to break it to you.... but 1% of the iPad user base is probably 30% of the iPad Pro user base. If you are going to make such a high-end machine, your high end users are going to expect to have an actual use for it.
A truck can cost the same price as a car, drive you to the same places but not be an exact replacemy
Here's the thing.

You don't need to understand other peoples desired or required workflows for them to be valid. Not everyone has the same needs or desires as you, but when Apple advertises as they did again recently that iPad can fully replace a computer... yes, people are going to be mad when they buy a fully loaded iPad Pro for $2700 and find it can't get the job done due to artificial limitations from software decisions Apple makes.


Also, hate to break it to you.... but 1% of the iPad user base is probably 30% of the iPad Pro user base. If you are going to make such a high-end machine, your high end users are going to expect to have an actual use for it.

Price has nothing to do with it. A truck and a 2 seater car can be the same price, so similar things yet not have the exact same usage. That’s the whole point of different form factors.

it’s illogical to have such different form factors as an iPad and mac and expect the exact same usage.

also, the reason why something like a full Logic Pro or final cut is not on the iPad is more about devs not making it rather than It can’t be done. Some of the problem is the form factor and UX demands of the iPad, plus the fact that there really isn’t the demand for it.

they are charging 200 pounds + for some of these programs which is something they cant charge that amount for on the iPad. So that’s reason why a lot of these “killer apps” aren’t on the machine. Nothing to do with its power.
 
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You don't need to understand other peoples desired or required workflows for them to be valid. Not everyone has the same needs or desires as you, but when Apple advertises as they did again recently that iPad can fully replace a computer... yes, people are going to be mad when they buy a fully loaded iPad Pro for $2700 and find it can't get the job done due to artificial limitations from software decisions Apple makes.
People who got mad over this need to lay in a darkened room to calm down. There are many powerful machines with a decent CPU and amount of storage that could capably run Apple’s pro apps, but Apple chooses to not port them over to that specific operation system. That operating system is called Microsoft Windows 10.

If people bought a Windows PC with the presumption that Apple (based on zero indication whatsoever) was going to bring its pro apps to the platform, then having a meltdown when it didn’t, I would think that those people are idiots.

I think the whole meltdown over M1/iPad/pro-apps-gate is pathetic/sad/hilarious
 
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Here's the thing.

You don't need to understand other peoples desired or required workflows for them to be valid. Not everyone has the same needs or desires as you, but when Apple advertises as they did again recently that iPad can fully replace a computer... yes, people are going to be mad when they buy a fully loaded iPad Pro for $2700 and find it can't get the job done due to artificial limitations from software decisions Apple makes.


Also, hate to break it to you.... but 1% of the iPad user base is probably 30% of the iPad Pro user base. If you are going to make such a high-end machine, your high end users are going to expect to have an actual use for it.
I don't buy a Volkswagen and then get upset that it's not big enough to transport a sofa home.

Could the iPad be more? Perhaps. But I think Apple also walks a fine line between adding the functionality that pros want, without alienating the rest of their user base who may not necessarily need the extra complexity.

The iPad and the Mac each has its own respective strengths and weaknesses. There is some overlap in functionality, but overall, there's work I prefer doing on an iPad over a Mac, just as there are tasks that are easier to perform on a Mac over an iPad.

I don't buy an iPad fully expecting it to be able to replace my Mac. Rather, its value for me is in adding value to the Apple ecosystem by letting me do the things that I couldn't do on a Mac (or at least, tasks that just aren't as nice to do on a PC). For example, I could record a screencast on a Mac by attaching an expensive Wacom tablet to it and recording myself writing on a pdf document via Quicktime.

Or I could just turn on screen recording function on my iPad, write as I normally would in notability with my Apple Pencil, make quick edits in lumafusion, then upload directly to YouTube. The process is quicker and more convenient (because I can do this anywhere I have my iPad and 4g with me, without the need to set up additional hardware).

And the latter works precisely because of the simplicity of iOS. The iPad Pro is the best computer I’ve ever owned not only because it’s powerful, but because iOS apps unlock a different kind of productivity on the big screen.

I am not sorry I got my first iPad in 2012, and embraced new ways of working on it. I was able to optimize my workflow on a computer that can transform into a laptop, a book, a videogame console, and a focused whiteboard when required. I’ve had fun working on the iPad Pro and more importantly, I’ve accomplished more thanks to the power of modern iOS apps.

Perhaps what is needed here even more is a paradigm shift in the mindsets of the users here. Rather than try to force your existing Mac workflows onto an iPad, maybe start by asking yourself how they can be reinvented for iOS. It can be frustrating at the start because it often requires you to redesign your entire workflow; it's not as straightforward as downloading an app and syncing your data over.

At the end of the day, it's really about being cognisant about what the iPad can and cannot do, and making a judgment call there and then.
But when you do, it can be just as rewarding.
 
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I guess you don't, but there are plenty of people that do.
I don’t think that most iPad users need more than 4GB RAM or a faster chip than the A14X in the iPad Air.

I agree with you that there are plenty that need it, but that’s still a small percentage of iPad users.
 
That scenario is useful for YouTubers to post a gazillion videos about how iPadOS is so disappointing for the ad money 💰

and now, they can start to make a new one: “I was wrong about iPadOS 15”.
Sadly it will still attract millions of views. Most youtuber now are really trying to make videos for anything I get they want more videos but it should really be at leas real not fake
 
That scenario is useful for YouTubers to post a gazillion videos about how iPadOS is so disappointing…
Were they wrong, though? iPadOS 15 reception was almost universally negative (not just from YouTubers) and for good reason. Imagine selling a $2,400 M1 device with 16 gigs of RAM and the OS functionality of a potato.
 
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Were they wrong, though? iPadOS 15 reception was almost universally negative (not just from YouTubers) and for good reason. Imagine selling a $2,400 M1 device with 16 gigs of RAM and the OS functionality of a potato.
To be fair, iPadOS15 hasn’t even been released. So the only ones “universally negative” are folks that likely don’t know what the word “beta” means. Just like every release before, the majority of systems will be running 15 in less than 6 months after it’s released.

Plus, I’ve actually used potatoes. And, since you can’t even properly mash iPadOS, it has LESS functionality than a potato.
 
Plus, I’ve actually used potatoes. And, since you can’t even properly mash iPadOS, it has LESS functionality than a potato.
This is a good point. However, iPadOS 15‘s negative reception had nothing to do with buggy beta builds. People are upset that despite the powerful hardware, we still (even in iPadOS 15) lack things like pro apps and proper external display support. Essentially, they got our hopes up by putting the M1 chip in it (and even Thunderbolt) and then let us all down by not adding any features that take advantage of it.
 
Silly? No.

Would they admit it? No.

Will they complain about it anyways? Yes.

It's either going to be not enough still. Or they will complain Apple should have told them Apple's plans earlier, as if Apple is obligated to do so. The point was to complain, and to make threads on complaining.

Some are still going to complain.
Nothing silly about it. Every app I use on my 2018 Pro ran almost identically on the M1, so I took it back. Unless and until developers start coding their apps to take advantage of the extra ram in a way that provides solid performance increases on that hardware versus older models, to degree that the price is justified, I’m sticking with my 2018.
 
They were hoping for Logic, Xcode, Final Cut Pro, and so on …. to finally come to the M1 iPad Pro. But it appeared Apple had no plans for it. That is why many people decided to return it.
But I want an oompa loompa now!
 
This is a good point. However, iPadOS 15‘s negative reception had nothing to do with buggy beta builds. People are upset that despite the powerful hardware, we still (even in iPadOS 15) lack things like pro apps and proper external display support. Essentially, they got our hopes up by putting the M1 chip in it (and even Thunderbolt) and then let us all down by not adding any features that take advantage of it.
Sooooo, beta1 didn’t include this “memory expander” feature. beta2 does. I’d say… y’know… wait until it’s released? But that’s me, I happen to know what “beta” means.
 
Were they wrong, though? iPadOS 15 reception was almost universally negative (not just from YouTubers) and for good reason. Imagine selling a $2,400 M1 device with 16 gigs of RAM and the OS functionality of a potato.
You don’t get it. It doesn’t matter if they are really right or wrong. Only the view and ad income matters. They can say the complete opposite things at the blink of an eye.
 
Sooooo, beta1 didn’t include this “memory expander” feature. beta2 does. I’d say… y’know… wait until it’s released? But that’s me, I happen to know what “beta” means.
The main thing most people wanted is pro apps. That is not the type of thing Apple would just sneak in to a beta. They would have announced it at WWDC.
 
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