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5c is not really an upgrade from 5 and much easier to manufacture. 5s on the other hand is an upgrade and I wonder if most people wait for 5s
 
I have had every iPhone so far except the incremental updated ones, i.e. "s" versions. I stay up till 12:01a.m. each time, get my order in or will stand in line. So definitely an Apple fan-boy here. I currently have the 5 and I am considering the 5c just to have something different for a year as the 5s doesn't do much for me.

I would have to break my contract with ATT and pay $250 but my 5 is worth $320 and the 5c is $99, so not too bad. Would then have to break my contract again next year to get the iPhone 6.

My reason for not wanting the 5s is that I really have no complaints about the speed of the 5 and I don't use my phone for taking pictures or video (videography is my business so I have adequate cameras for that) so I just thought the colors were kind of fun, the plastic shell might be a bit softer and easy on the hands and to me, they just look cool.

So not everyone is turned off by the 5c as I am sure there are others like me. Since the 5c's are not showing pre-order depletions, I might just wait till Friday and check one out in the store. If I don't like it, I will hang on to my 5 and wait for the 6. I would imagine/hope the 6 will have a new design, possibly larger screen and some features that will make us all stop complaining:)
 
Actually, I can't remember a release of any previous iPhone that
did not completely sell out by the Monday after release
This concerns me as an Apple investor. Either demand is not that great or supply is exstensive?

I walked into a carrier's store last year and bought the iPhone 5 on the spot. I was unable to order it online because the carrier I'm with only offered 16GB versions for preorder.

Another point: the most sought after phones are always the lowest end versions. People want an iPhone but don't care to have the top end because they're not techno-geeks, like most people on here... me included, I suppose.
 
When I did a chat with Apple I was told the Tmobile and Sim Free were the same minus the fact that the Tmobile version came with a Tmobile Sim.

So you can still just order the tmobile one and get on launch day to just use with other carrier. Unless I was given incorrect info.
 
Based on the leaks, it seems Apple started production further in advance for this to have more than enough for launch. The internals aren't really anything new so, they likely started product much sooner than the 5s, which needed other tech to be completed first.
 
To build off of what was said in another thread, I think the fact that the unlocked 16 gigs are the ones selling out may be a sign that


  • People are tired of being chained to contracts
  • People want a cheap(er) iPhone

I think if they had priced it a little lower to be more competitive with other smartphone prices (such as free with contract or at least $100 less without a contract than they're charging) then they'd be selling more of them. I think a lot of people were expecting a lower price.

If we don't hear some numbers from Apple today, should we assume that it's less of a hit than they were hoping?

EDIT: I guess since the official launch of the 5c isn't until Friday, then it probably won't be until next Monday that we hear numbers.

I'm in the don't want a contract phone. I rather not be tied to anything at the moment. Also you would think after your 2 yr contract was up that your service bill would go down but it doesn't :(

Bullet #2 $100 difference isn't what I call cheap personally. I know $100 is $100 and I'm no way rich but if I'm willing to spend $550 I think I'd probably spend the extra $100 and go top of the line for the additional features seeing how I'm going to be keeping it a while.

For me a no brainer for a cheaper phone would be like Android and a Nexus phone if I was wanting a cheaper andriod device. $250 16GB and to go to a flagship phone like the S4 or similar you're looking at $400 more. At that price difference I can see not spending the extra dough.

Actually I may get a Nexus 5 if it gets a 5" screen and stays around $300 or less until I see what Apple releases next year in the bigger screen size(hopefully)
 
The 5c makes perfect sense to me. I purchased a refurb 5 last Fall after skipping a midcycle 4s to wait for the 5, and then the refurb price made it too good to pass up, especially since I can get a $55/month contract.

I do agree that the 5c should have been lower priced, though refurbs may bring it down quickly. The US market is too tethered to corporate control to give us what everyone overseas already has.

The 5 is overkill for my needs, and 16gb more than adequate. Budget users with an older model will find the 5c tempting, and scores of young people who couldn't convince their parents to buy them a flagship model will be making their holiday lists early. The latter is a big target group for Apple, and iPhone helps create brand loyalty in young users. Teachers will be confiscating an entire rainbow of phones come October :)
 
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I find it funny that the media is hyping it as if Apple is releasing two brand new phones, or they really don't know that it is the 5 in a polycarbonate shell. People want new.

Who in the media is hyping it that way? If anything it's the media calling it last years phone in a plastic case.
 
When I did a chat with Apple I was told the Tmobile and Sim Free were the same minus the fact that the Tmobile version came with a Tmobile Sim.

So you can still just order the tmobile one and get on launch day to just use with other carrier. Unless I was given incorrect info.

To get a carrier specific iPhone, don't you have to agree to their contract?
 
I tend to think it's the former. With all previous releases of new iPhones (the 5c is touted as a new iPhone) there were reports about how the retailers were "extremely happy" with sales before the weekend was over. So far not a single report regarding iPhone 5c sales. It is unusually quiet when it comes to that this time around.

I honestly think the average consumer will look at the two models and see the value of spending a bit more to get the 5s. If they were priced an $0 and $99 on contract and $450 and $550 off contract the 16GB would have made a lot of noise this weekend. As it stands the silence is very telling.

But also from a brand standpoint does Apple really want to sell a "new" phone for $0? I could never see that happening. Though the off contract price seems high I wonder if there is a floor in what Apple would price it at due to carrier subsidies?
 
sadly, the same internals in a brand new architectural shell IS a new phone. or else half android phones would be the "same phone" because they have the same internals
 
Almost every child is fingerprinted in Elementary school and has been since the 80's. If you think they need this phone to get your fingerprint you're already a lost cause.

Once again, anyone having a fingerprint "on file" is of very minimal privacy concern--it's basically the same thing as the vital records department having your "name" and "date of birth" on file with your birth certificate (as both can be considered unique identifiers of who you are). I really wouldn't care if *you* had my fingerprint sitting around your house somewhere--so what?

The issue here is having a unique biometric identity tied to everything you do, everywhere you go, and everyone you interact with. If you don't understand the difference between these two things, well, gosh, read any dystopian futuristic novel.
 
5c is not really an upgrade from 5 and much easier to manufacture. 5s on the other hand is an upgrade and I wonder if most people wait for 5s

The 5c isn't for 5 users. It's designed for 4/4s users, especially those who found the free-with-contract deals tempting and are near the end of contracts. And 14-year-olds.

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Who in the media is hyping it that way? If anything it's the media calling it last years phone in a plastic case.

Apple made it desirable again with nothing more than a case change and a marketing campaign. I'm calling that "clever." :)
 
Apple made it desirable again with nothing more than a case change and a marketing campaign. I'm calling that "clever." :)

Well based on posts here it doesn't appear they did that at all.
 
Wow. This seems rather slow. iPhone 5c will be joining the G4 Cube and Ping soon.

Not a chance. The 5c will easily outsell what the 4s did last year while making more profit per phone than if Apple had just kept the 5 as is and dropped its price $100.

I think the real question is if Apple had offered the color on the 5s as well as the normal metallic forms, which would have sold better?

I'd venture to guess the color version would have...JMHO... If Tim is on the ball he'll launch the color 5sc in the spring time while keeping the metal 5s.

Frankly I'm quite surprised the 5c is selling out as they had lots of time to build stock, nothing radically new to produce in it (to give them problems like the 5 and now the 5s have had) and its target market aren't folks who pre-order (these are the folks who want to "save" 50% ($100) on a new iPhone when their 2 year contract is up or walk in and just like the colors (and don't give a whiff about specifications).
 
Wow people are stupid, buying a 2012 based phone with a new back. Wow.

So if Apple had kept the 5 but knocked it down $100 would people be stupid for buying it because its a 2012 phone? Do all the cheaper Android and Windows phones on the market have the latest and greatest specs?
 
This is an honest question: You can't come up with $100 for the phone, but you can afford $80-$100 a month forever? For me, it's the other way around. $100 is a drop in the bucket compared to that monthly bill.

What makes you think everyone pays a ridiculous monthly bill like that? I pay €10 per month for unlimited calls, texts and 5GB of data.
 
Here in the UK every version is still available.

Unheard of for an iPhone launch!

Does this article have the correct time for UK online availability. The article says 12:01 but the apple website says that's PST which actually equates to 08:01 British Summer Time.

So what is it so special about it that it should be sold out?

Was 4s sold out last year before 5 went on sale? This is not a flagship product.
 
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