You all really want these 5c's to sell out. Make the headline more realistic. Sales on these may be slower because people are waiting on the 5s. Does Apple own Macrumors?
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Launch-Day Availability of Unlocked iPhone 5c Models Continues to Slip
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You do realize that the 4s sold VERY well even after the 5 was released, right? Add to that the following: 1) the 5c is a new model whereas the 4s wasn't, 2) the differences between the 4s and 5 are much larger than between the 5c and 5s, and 3) the colors alone will be a big draw.
So expect the 5c to do very well.
I'd just like to know if I get the "unlocked T-Mobile" phone, if I can use it on AT&T/Straight Talk without issue/losing any features. I don't want a contract, and mine's up with AT&T next month.
I'm sure next Monday there will be a press release stating how both 5c and 5s opening weekend sales have set records and surpassed Apple's expectations!
With so many color choices for the 5c, it was wise to have the pre-orders...then they are all drawing on a central stock and there aren't store by store shortages of different colors/sizes....Apple also learns the trends of people's preferences and can plan future production and logistics accordingly.
This may happen somewhat with the 5s, but Apple already has data on people's preferences for black/white phones in the past. If anything they may have skewed production to make the gold one more rare to create a buzz and have a sold out high demand model. Without the pre-orders it gets the premium spending customers into the stores for both the publicity that lines will generate and they have the cash-cow customers walking right in the door to be sold cases, AppleCare, etc!
I think Apple has really thought this launch through when looking at it from the standpoint of an investor.
With so many color choices for the 5c, it was wise to have the pre-orders...then they are all drawing on a central stock and there aren't store by store shortages of different colors/sizes....Apple also learns the trends of people's preferences and can plan future production and logistics accordingly.
This may happen somewhat with the 5s, but Apple already has data on people's preferences for black/white phones in the past. If anything they may have skewed production to make the gold one more rare to create a buzz and have a sold out high demand model. Without the pre-orders it gets the premium spending customers into the stores for both the publicity that lines will generate and they have the cash-cow customers walking right in the door to be sold cases, AppleCare, etc!
I think Apple has really thought this launch through when looking at it from the standpoint of an investor.
The real question is: why does she got an iPhone in the first place if she wanted to save money for the baby? There are plenty of other devices that do the trick. An iPhone just does it smoother and somewhat faster. Or she could just have got a new 4S.
For that monthly plan you won't get any subsidized iPhone or any decent smartphone for that matter. I happen to live in an European country, myself, and I know that despite the fact you can get away with a really cheap plan, you won't if you want a decent smartphone.
Now, now don't go bringing all that common sense and facts into play here and don't even think of bringing those Moto X customers and its mid range internals (at the 5s price no less) into the discussion...
Remember to chant the mid range 5c isn't sold out - epic fail, its the next Cube and Apple is doomed!
It is also the first time apple has ever released an iPhone that was not the flagship model at launch. Demand will be greater than for the 4s last year since this year the second-tier model is "new," but it doesn't surprise me in the least that it's not up to the demand level we see with flagship model releases.
Just checked the store...now, alll unlocked SIM-free phones are sold out, in all colors and capacities.
Interesting that the T-Mobile ones are all still available, though, since it's apparently just the same unlocked phone with a SIM shipped with it.
Interesting that the T-Mobile ones are all still available, though, since it's apparently just the same unlocked phone with a SIM shipped with it.
unlikely both -- apple has had no problems generating publicity for each of the past flagship phone launch days; it would be completely unnecessary to constrain sales in return for some photos of lines. the lines will be there regardless.
it's device constraint.
Yah thanks for sharing your insightful welcome message to a new member just cause you are butthurt he shared an opinion which does not match yours.
very mature.
I went for the 5c over the 5s... It's all pretty much the same now anyway.
I just like the look of the C way better (so much so that I bought one of each color, excited for the 20th!)
Anyway my point being, I didn't go for the C to save $100,
I simply like the C more than I do the S.
90% of my non tech family members agree.
C wins.
I just like the look of the C way better (so much so that I bought one of each color, excited for the 20th!)
Anyway my point being, I didn't go for the C to save $100,
I simply like the C more than I do the S.
90% of my non tech family members agree.
C wins.
in no prior year has there been two devices launched staggered, one with 3 colors and one with 5. thats a lot more models to supply.
the carriers arent about to drop their rates to $0 -- the monthly bill is a required cost of doing business. he's determined he needs a smartphone and i have no reason to doubt that...what are you suggesting he do?
My guess is no since the 5C is not showing as available for in-store pick up.
that can explain separate launch dates, but does not explain lack of pre-ordering on S.
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incorrect. apple doesnt need to sacrifice high margin profit (the air which corps breath) in order to get some line photos -- those will happen regardless.
it's supply constraint. they dont come out of thin air.
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uh huh. riiight...
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it's still a new device. new shell, new antenna structure, some small hardware improvements. new.
my home receiver comes out w/ a new model every year, many/most of the same internals. still a new model.
your expectation that every device be completely brand new every single year is not really how most goods are manufactured.
Front end of sentence, possible. Second half, clearly did not read specs. The "Wow" add-on, I can go with that.
Where is that double facepalm picture someone posted once, we could use that in some of these threads.
Yes, there should be no difference (same phone, same chips) - its an iPhone so no carrier garbage on them or features lost (unlike other phone ecosystems). And at least with the 4s, that T-Mobile SIM was necessary to change the network setup details (without a jail break) so SMS etc. worked on Straight Talk AT&T (the Straight Talk / AT&T setup doesn't give access to the appropriate settings details, but the T-Mobile SIM does so you have to do some quick swapping - that might be over now).
However, as an aside, an AT&T locked phone will work with Straight Talk if you're using a Straight Talk AT&T network SIM. That said, Straight Talk stopped giving the AT&T network SIMs out earlier this year so make sure their selling them again (I heard they were) or you'll be stuck with T-Mobile.
And as an FYI, the Straight Talk SIMs are lower priority customers on the AT&T network (in congestion you get dropped before the AT&T customers) - for me its not a problem as I rarely ever get into that situation, but if you live in an area where the AT&T network is already not performing well for full on AT&T customers (family member had this situation), be ready for it.
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impossible, since the device only stores hashed templates locally in the A7, not prints on a server. hackers will quickly verify via a control room that they arent being transmitted.
This one is special because it is new, and because it is unlike any recent iPhone.
The 4S was not new when the 5 was introduced, and it was very similar to the aged i4.
Bad comparison...
That has nothing to do with one another. The 4S may have sold well because it was the best iPhone available with a 3.5 inch display that Apple was selling people as perfect for years. I know people who wanted to stay with that screen size. Also it still used the old dock connector which was a positive thing for people who had spent a lot on accessories. So new (5C) vs. not new (4S) does not mean new will sell better.
I am sorry, but the kind of logic you are applying here is exactly why so many business decisions prove a failure in retrospect. You have to look at the whole picture when making a decision. Almost nobody ever mentions that the 4S sold better than other previous generation phones because it had factors going for it that others did not have…
I may be wrong as well. But I just hope Apple checked why the 4S was selling so good, cause all I ever heard was "price" and I really doubt that this is the only reason.
That has nothing to do with one another. The 4S may have sold well because it was the best iPhone available with a 3.5 inch display that Apple was selling people as perfect for years. I know people who wanted to stay with that screen size. Also it still used the old dock connector which was a positive thing for people who had spent a lot on accessories. So new (5C) vs. not new (4S) does not mean new will sell better.
I am sorry, but the kind of logic you are applying here is exactly why so many business decisions prove a failure in retrospect. You have to look at the whole picture when making a decision. Almost nobody ever mentions that the 4S sold better than other previous generation phones because it had factors going for it that others did not have…
I may be wrong as well. But I just hope Apple checked why the 4S was selling so good, cause all I ever heard was "price" and I really doubt that this is the only reason.