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Quillz - can you easily see the sensors on your iPhone? I can't. Unless it's in direct beam of sun or a flashlight. A front cam would be under the glass and perhaps as hard to see as a sensor.
 
scratches bother you?

Because it's that scratch-happy glossy plastic that was on the 5G iPod and 1G iPod nano. If hairline scratches don't bother you, then you don't need a case.

Scratches bother you and you'd rather cover a beautiful phone with an ugly case? Use the phone normal until the scratches are too ugly for you to handle, then cover it with a case later. :)
 
Quillz - can you easily see the sensors on your iPhone? I can't. Unless it's in direct beam of sun or a flashlight. A front cam would be under the glass and perhaps as hard to see as a sensor.
But under direct light, it's very easy to see the sensors on the iPhone. And even if there was a "hidden" camera, there would have been some sort of reference within the 2.0 firmware. Nothing has been found, there is no camera.
Scratches bother you and you'd rather cover a beautiful phone with an ugly case? Use the phone normal until the scratches are too ugly for you to handle, then cover it with a case later. :)
There are many well-crafted cases that enhance the beauty of the iPhone. And, no, I'd rather use a case from the get-go so the iPhone isn't horribly scratched when I eventually sell it.
 
Belkin has also provided the bigger opening:

http://www.belkin.com/ipod/iphone3g/

Also, last night I was looking at cases for the new 3G iPhone on Google and I ran across a case that didn't just have a big open slot, it has the cutouts exactly where the three senors are only. The case was pink rubber style case, but I cannot for the life of me find it again. Still hoping for pro type model with front camera.
 

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I saw conjecture elsewhere that that they have split the proximity sensor into two separate sensors. I have had problems with the proximity sensor on the first gen iPhone, with phone sometimes failing to recognising it's near my ear and allowing my cheek to hang-up a call.

But maybe I just have freakish ears.

The iPhone is not meant for elves to use.

;)
 
There's already been a few hands-on reviews and no one has pointed out a front-facing video camera. There's no conspiracy going on here. If there was a video camera, it would have been pointed out by now. If not by Apple, then by someone else.

In my tinfoil hat conspiracy, Apple had special iPhones to show journalists backstage that DID NOT have a front facing camera... all the while the factories in China are cranking out the real model which will include it.

Very wishful thinking but you have to admit it would be really cool! Front facing camera, iChat with video, and Photobooth lite. Those would be some awesome bombshell announcements to drop right before releasing the iphone for sale.
 
Would it be possible for anyone or a company to get their hands on one before July 11th and tear it apart? I think there could be several reasons they might move the sensors just because of reengineering internally. I think the hope that there still is an unannounced camera on the front is pretty ridiculous!

I would love it just as much as all of you but it is not going to happen. If there is anything else announced when it comes out it will only be little software additions like before with the YouTube app or something. I am still hoping for video recording or mms or copy paste, but if not I will be able to get those things in the app store, so its not a huge deal, just inconvenient.
 
the point here is not the case but the fact that a front camera may exist. It is typical from Apple to do just that. Say nothing now and shock us in a few weeks
 
In my tinfoil hat conspiracy, Apple had special iPhones to show journalists backstage that DID NOT have a front facing camera... all the while the factories in China are cranking out the real model which will include it.

Very wishful thinking but you have to admit it would be really cool! Front facing camera, iChat with video, and Photobooth lite. Those would be some awesome bombshell announcements to drop right before releasing the iphone for sale.

Understood
 
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From these pics it's easy to see the acutal sensors on the 3G iPhone.

Personally i think that the 1 is the ambient light sensor and the 2 by each other is the proximity sensor.

There will not be video conferencing, nobody uses video conferencing, it's a novelty, idk why everyone is freaking out about it. it would be cool, yes. but it won't happen
 
I know the GPS in the iPhone is AGPS, but it still uses GPS satellites, perhaps they placed the GPS antenna up there?

GPS signals do not like being denied near direct line-of-sight.

An already anemic GPS signal would be all but attenuated by a case, perhaps? Just a guess, can't figure anything better than sensors or this.
 
I use iChat all the time to video conference, although it is a novelty, it is what gives the iPhone the next wow factor and would be great to be sitting on the couch and quickly video chat with someone for whatever reason or even if you are out on vacation, etc. If they added iChat and allowed you to use the camera on the back that would be the second best thing (video chat vacation stuff or at the store and need wife to look at something). I don't see apple adding video chat with back camera without adding it to the front also.
 
A little more wishful thinking...remember when the iPhone was announced in Jan 07 there were some changes prior to actual release? Longer battery life I thing was one of them, but there may have been other too?

Obviously this is a MUCH shorter timeframe...but you have to wonder.
 
ichat

There's one thing people completely miss out when they get excited about teh possibility of video conferencing or ichat. Yes there may be space for a front mounted camera, but you also need a nice big microphone to pick up your voice! Generally when i've used hands free (without a ear piece, just the phone on speaker phone) it used the mouth piece mic, and it was rubbish. Apple would have to put on a much better mic to make this a viable feature and not something that was laughable. If they knew it would be rubbish they wouldn't have it and to be honest you'd need a separate more responsive mic just for ichat.

I dont think it will be on the v2 iphone, and also, think of the data rates you'd need to keep the ichat going, i know for a fact my home broadband of 2mb cant managed it over wi fi, i have to patch it via ethernet and then its only passable in quality.
 
How's this for an idea?

Most of the cases that exist for the iphone today have holes that are big enough to reveal JUST the sensors....I don't personally use a case (I use a mixture of invisible shield and the power support film....works amazingly), but everyone I know who does use a rubber case is constantly having trouble because the holes for the sensors are so small that sometimes the actual rubber covers the sensors causing everything to go wacky.

Anyone think that perhaps the big smart case companies were aware of this and widened the area where the sensors are? And for symmetry's sake they add the same empty area to both sides of the case?

Just a thought...


If there wasn't a camera announced at the keynote, there will be no video conferencing.

I completely understand the wishful thinking however.
 
I bet I can name TWO companies that will NOT BE GETTING future look sees on upcoming products.....

THE ultimate no-no, ruining Steve's show time events!

lol.....as if there was anything to even ruin. the design is basically unchanged and uninspired. whoop-dee-doo!

now, if the design was radically different or offered some new visual features...then i'd understand.

no one blew steve's wad. :rolleyes:
 
Update According to Jeremy Horwitz at iLounge, however, the specs did not come from Apple themselves and instead from Apple's contractors.
 
Am I the only one who thinks that the case manufactures are doing this just to make the cases symmetrical? It would look weird it it was just open on the left where the sensors are at.
 
This should really be on page 2, in my opinion.

Page 1 is rockin' right now with all sorts of semi-interesting stuff. Case details leaked is not prime news.
 
So the by-far most popular rumor and oldest rumor was the front facing camera. Possibly Job's wants to leave that announcement up to early July as a "surprise"... Possibly... What else likely could it be?
 
But maybe I just have freakish ears.

Post a picture of them and we'll give you our opinion. :D

I don't see how any case manufacturers could have products out by launch day if they didn't get leaked or leagally provided dimensions of the new iPhone.

My question is, if a case manufacturer gets "leaked" dimensions and uses them, could they be held legally liable by Apple?...though it would be stupid for Apple to go after something like that. How likely is it that Apple provided the dimensions, themselves? Probably high, right?

So the by-far most popular rumor and oldest rumor was the front facing camera. Possibly Job's wants to leave that announcement up to early July as a "surprise"... Possibly... What else likely could it be?

Not going to happen this year. Maybe on the iPhone 4.....
 
Keynote

Did anyone notice in the Keynote feed that all of the iPhones used by Jobs and company were sheathed in black plastic cases? Are those some of the "leaked" case designs?
 
I hope that it's a LED indicator that there is a notification. It's the one thing that I really miss from my Blackberrys, an LED telling me that there is a text/voicemail/email/phone call has arrived that I missed.

I'm always randomly turning on my iPhone and seeing that I've missed a text or phone call that I would have known about much sooner had there been a persistent indicator like pretty much every other smartphone has.
 
ive never understood the logic behind putting your iphone/phone/ipod into one of these cases. people say its to protect the device from scratching and thus ruining its aesthetics, yet they put it into one of these hideous bulky rubber things? i can understand clear protectors like invisibleshield, but not these things.
 
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