Leaked: Apple Stealing All FaceTime Information, AT&T Locks Users via OTA Updates

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by The Catalyst, Jun 23, 2010.

  1. The Catalyst macrumors 6502

    Dec 4, 2009
  2. Adam West macrumors newbie

    Jun 20, 2010
    WOW.. That is some BS. At&t never fails to surprise/dissapoint.
  3. klitorisaurus macrumors member

    Jun 10, 2010
  4. Brien macrumors 68030


    Aug 11, 2008
  5. ReallyBigFeet macrumors 68030


    Apr 15, 2010
    Sounds like pure spewage to me.

    On the other hand, I would think that eventually AT&T and/or Apple would find ways to thwart jailbreaking attempts. This won't last, of course, someone will find a way to thwart the anti-jailbreak system. Its just like anti-piracy measures...totally futile.

    But I doubt this link is anything more than pure spew at this point.
  6. KingHuds macrumors 6502

    Aug 2, 2008
    Lol this looks like a paranoid BS posting, and the grammar/editing is terrible.

    Even if all the OTA update locking was true and the Facetime data mining really happened, Apple and AT&T would get hit with huge lawsuits.
  7. UngratefulNinja macrumors 68000


    May 9, 2009
    That sounds really believable, that some unknown site has a major leak "in" and no other leaks from reputable source sites.
  8. mpuck972 macrumors 6502


    Aug 31, 2007
    DirectTV and Dish network have been doing the same OTA updates to thwart the hacking of their satellite cards with great success for years now and there have been no legal issues with them.

    I can see them getting away with the OTA thing without fear of legal issues whatsoever.
  9. PhoneI macrumors 68000

    Mar 7, 2008
    anytime a suggested anonymous Apple employee uses the word "iTouch", I have serious doubts.
  10. KingHuds macrumors 6502

    Aug 2, 2008
    Theres a huge difference between pirating satellite signal and the regular usage of an iPhone.
  11. dmize31287 macrumors regular

    Jun 11, 2010
    Honestly, I could care less about the OTA. The service from ATT is not bad at all near me.

    The location information that is sent for a facetime call is another thing I could care less about. I have nothing to hide, and this could be a security precaution more so than a invasion of privacy.

    "O hai! I'm a terrorist and I have bombs, Facetime with me so I can show you my newest one made out of nail polish, bleach, and my old iphone. Pretty good huh!"


    ^ Now we have their location and can find a cave with wifi somewhere. Pro stuff.
  12. mike5411 macrumors regular

    Jan 15, 2008
    If you're not on the AT&T network, how will they know to send the OTA to you since I doubt T-Mobile would go through the trouble of sending an OTA for a device they don't sell but unoffically support. Are you trying to say there is a call home function in iOS4?
  13. Apollo 13 macrumors 6502a

    May 29, 2010
    So Apple and AT&T are pulling the same thing the cable company and satalite companies do. Seems legit to me...they don't want ppl jailbreaking their phones or using them unlocked.
  14. UCF-ENG macrumors regular

    Jun 7, 2010
    Killing the jailbreak community will be the BIGGEST mistake Apple could ever make IMO... It would completely destroy their grassroots support among the developer community and cause a lot of the folks to move over to the Android platform...

    Between that and the privacy issues, if this is true, it is truly disappointing, but not surprising...
  15. mpuck972 macrumors 6502


    Aug 31, 2007
    Not in terms of breaking a usage agreement.
  16. fleali88 macrumors regular

    Sep 29, 2008
    Big Brother.....................MOTHER****ER!!!!!

    i hate this kind of ****. i think i might sell mine on ebay now.
  17. SpankWare macrumors regular

    Mar 9, 2006
    I call BS. The first two points are total crap so the rest must be.

    The first point says that AT&T is communicating with my phone every 7 to 14 days. If I'm not on AT&T's network, how exactly is that happening? Yeah, that's what I thought. It isn't. Oh, Apple is doing it for them? And this nets Apple what? Oh right, nothing.

    The second point says AT&T had the phones released early. Why exactly was that? What about a 1 to 2 day early release allows them to test or validate anything? Right, it doesn't. And again, this nets Apple what? Oh right, nothing.

    It's all complete BS.
  18. KingHuds macrumors 6502

    Aug 2, 2008
    A usage agreement isn't law. This would not hold up in court.
  19. rwilliams macrumors 68040


    Apr 8, 2009
    Raleigh, NC
    If this is true, it is disgusting on both Apple and AT&T's part.

    I can't say that I've ever seen anyone answer their own questions like this. Anyway, as for your first question, it's not beyond the realm of possibility that there's a "phone home" feature hidden in the iPhone. Frankly, I'd be surprised if there wasn't. And as for what it nets Apple - they get a cut of every monthly bill that customers pay to AT&T. If you're not using AT&T, that's money that Apple is losing.
  20. ReallyBigFeet macrumors 68030


    Apr 15, 2010
    I seriously doubt killing the jailbreak community will hurt anything....not that it will happen, but the JB "community" is more like a highly disorganized rabble of independent homebrew hacks.

    Not that I've done anything special...but neither have they.
  21. Small White Car macrumors G4

    Small White Car

    Aug 29, 2006
    Washington DC
    FACT 1: If an Apple employee decided to risk his career to get this very important information out to the public, he'd want to go somewhere that reaches the most people most directly.

    FACT 2: That does not describe addictivetips.com.

    - - -

    If they'd said they'd stolen some documents or something that might be a bit more believable...but we're supposed to believe that this Apple employee just woke up one day and just decided to call addictivetips.com?

    That's the part I find the most unbelievable.
  22. chriskzoo macrumors 6502

    Aug 25, 2005
    Not really - you're talking what, 10-20K people at most. They just sold 600k iP4's.
  23. Chief Oddball macrumors regular

    Jun 22, 2009
    This is sound logic. I should point out, however, that in the comments of that article, the person I take to be the admin at AddictiveTips claims that he sought out the Apple guy, not the other way around. Through what channels, or how he found out about him, he won't say.

    Not that it makes it any more credible, certainly.
  24. pika2000 macrumors 68040

    Jun 22, 2007
    OTA updates: Sounds more like carrier settings updates. I don't think this is new at all. Everytime I put a SIM into almost ANY GSM phone like Nokia/SE, it always ask if I want to download updates for the carrier settings. I doubt Apple allows AT&T to mess with the iOS itself.
  25. sinsin07 macrumors 68040

    Mar 28, 2009
    Man there sure is allot of newbie "news flash" items today. Wish there was a filter for this.

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