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The S855 is 35-45% faster than the S845.
The GPU is also 20% faster while consuming less power.
Sustained performance(which was already great with the 845)should also be improved.
AI on the S855(which even has a Tensor accelerator) is also 2 to 3 times faster than on the S845.

The S855 will do great in 2019. Its fast and efficient and has a great GPU, those are the most important things.
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Yes.
I'll leave this clip here maybe people here will finally learn something.

Thanks, that video was informative. I kind of wish they’d used something better than iMovie, but that’s just a tiny quibble.
 
... and a go-to reply from Apple haters in every single thread on any device performance. Can't you guys come up with any new material?
It's a joke. Your sensitivities are in dire need of hardening. How ironic you request new material when you use the oh so pedestrian " Apple hater":rolleyes:. Rarely do I ever have someone use that tired phrase against me, but I guess it befitting of lazy commentary.
 
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You think it's acceptable for someone to get a product/service and then back out of paying for it?
That's not what Apple is doing. Apple is withholding payments until they're only being held responsible for paying what should legally be required. The FTC isn't taking Qualcomm to court for nothing.
 
Yes, because if you want their modem on Android, you have to use their ARM processor. They have to improve of course, but at the minimal. Seriously, just check the specs on their chip.... they are made in the same TSMC fab as Apple's SOC.
Instead of saying Apple are using 7nm SOC, you might as well said TSMC has achieved 7nm ARM SOC manufacturing process.

If Qualcomm are will to pay for the material cost + TSMC/Samsung resources, they can be on par with Apple's SOC.

Still confused by this. TSMC is just a fab, the design of the layout of the SOC is controlled by either Qualcomm and Apple. It will be in Qualcomm's best interest to shrink their die and process as this will not only result in better performance but more chips per wafer. I would think that Qualcomm has their only design strategy and cadence.

Secondly, the throughput of those chips on the wafer would be determined by the qualification metrics and their yield criteria. They might also use speed binning.

In terms of performance, this is more of the design choices both companies chose. The only material costs they would be concerned with is the fabrication process required changes in machinery to support lower Nm processes and/or fabrication processes to increase the wafer size. That and how aggressive their tape out strategy is and in the case of SnapDragon, it is a yearly cadence.
 
Still confused by this. TSMC is just a fab, the design of the layout of the SOC is controlled by either Qualcomm and Apple. It will be in Qualcomm's best interest to shrink their die and process as this will not only result in better performance but more chips per wafer. I would think that Qualcomm has their only design strategy and cadence.

Secondly, the throughput of those chips on the wafer would be determined by the qualification metrics and their yield criteria. They might also use speed binning.

In terms of performance, this is more of the design choices both companies chose. The only material costs they would be concerned with is the fabrication process required changes in machinery to support lower Nm processes and/or fabrication processes to increase the wafer size. That and how aggressive their tape out strategy is and in the case of SnapDragon, it is a yearly cadence.

All Qualcomm chips derived from a select version of ARM designed core. Snapdragon 845 derived from ARM Cortex-A75.
Apple is the only one that doesn't use ARM reference off the shelve cores. (Except older models.) -- maybe they did but not disclosed.

In some way, think of ARM as lego, CPU manufacturers can put it together anyway they feel like it and combine it with their own GPU. But Apple seems to be using in their own lego pieces. But it's still lego.

*Design and layout are improving even without Qualcomm doing anything, ARM Holdings are the one actually designing the CPU cores. Qualcomm only make small alterations and name it Snapdragon... with their modem of course.

-- Huawei's HiSilicon and Samsung's Exynos, all do the same thing like Qualcomm. Using selected ARM cores, and combine it with their own GPU and modem.

By the way, from all the companies mentioned, Samsung is the only one that can actually design and manufacture their own processors.
 
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It's a joke. Your sensitivities are in dire need of hardening. How ironic you request new material when you use the oh so pedestrian " Apple hater":rolleyes:. Rarely do I ever have someone use that tired phrase against me, but I guess it befitting of lazy commentary.

You are calling my comment lazy commentary for merely pointing out that you said (whether in jest or otherwise) what is said in 100% of every single post that has anything at all to do with performance. It would just really, really, be nice to read one single article that didn't have to have the obligatory "Well Apple Fanboys say..."
 
Thinking about it, my Note 9 doesn’t exactly feel slow. So the Note 10 will also be amazing, but let’s hope they end up being better to people who give them upwards of 1,000$ for a phone.
 
You are calling my comment lazy commentary for merely pointing out that you said (whether in jest or otherwise) what is said in 100% of every single post that has anything at all to do with performance. It would just really, really, be nice to read one single article that didn't have to have the obligatory "Well Apple Fanboys say..."
No I'm not actually. I thought I was pretty clear. I called your comment lazy commentary for calling me an Apple hater. I said so right here: "Rarely do I ever have someone use that tired phrase against me, but I guess it befitting of lazy commentary."
You pointing out the similarity between my joke and other comments is a valid point. I take no issue with it. "Specs don't matter" is a common refrain which makes it funny. You going out of your way to be insulting is in no way valid... and deserves the critique I gave it.
 
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How can you benchmark and suggest a phone outperforms something that's not even out yet ? What if Samsung are wrong?
 
No I'm not actually. I thought I was pretty clear. I called your comment lazy commentary for calling me an Apple hater. I said so right here: "Rarely do I ever have someone use that tired phrase against me, but I guess it befitting of lazy commentary."
You pointing out the similarity between my joke and other comments is a valid point. I take no issue with it. "Specs don't matter" is a common refrain which makes it funny. You going out of your way to be insulting is in no way valid... and deserves the critique I gave it.

Nothing of my comment was in any way whatsoever an insult to you. It was a general statement. And I didn't even call you in particular an apple hater. If you think its funny and fair game to make the statement that you made, its no less fair to make the normal reply to that statement. Relax man.
 
Nothing of my comment was in any way whatsoever an insult to you. It was a general statement. And I didn't even call you in particular an apple hater. If you think its funny and fair game to make the statement that you made, its no less fair to make the normal reply to that statement. Relax man.
I'm completely relaxed. I also understand English fairly well. And this: "... and a go-to reply from Apple haters in every single thread on any device performance. Can't you guys come up with any new material?" is a direct implication that I am an Apple hater. I guess that you guys was exclusive of me, huh? I tell you what, let's call it a day. We've both put far too much effort into this. Ain't worth it. It's taken a l'il bit of the funny out of the joke.
 
Well, the common phrase is "specs don't matter". It's what makes the joke funny. Pedantry about specs vs benchmarks just makes the waitress not want to serve your drink. ;)

I’ll spell it out for you if it’s really that hard: higher specs doesn’t mean faster, but higher benchmarks do ;)
 
Hold your horses Captain Euro... lol!!! I get it, equipment and plans have been decoupled in Europe since forever, that doesn't necessarily mean that it's a superior business model.

Also, the UK is like the freaking size of Texas, of course it would be easy to cover a country that size. Also, who brought the world these technologies... I'll wait...

I get it bro, the equipment policies in the UK & Europe are a lot more liberal than here in the US, BUT don't act like you guys aren't without flaws.
It's nothing to do with how the UK does it. Name another carrier in the world that renamed 3G "4G", and renamed 4G "5GE" as a way to fleece the customers? Verizon, known to be the fastest 4G in the states (correct me if I'm wrong) still isn't at the levels found elsewhere in the world. Huawei didn't get to become the second largest phone manufacturer by getting a 6.7% hold of the UK market...
 
I’ll spell it out for you if it’s really that hard: higher specs doesn’t mean faster, but higher benchmarks do ;)

Not really.

Look at those yt speed tests. Galaxy so/s9+/note8/9 with half the benchmark performs as fast or faster than iPhone xs max.
 
Just to correct you here. Samsung the phone maker operates as a separate entity than Samsung the battery maker. In addition, affected Samsung phones that got recalled used both Samsung batteries sourced by the company that makes Samsung batteries and a third party not connected with Samsung. If a Nokia phone were to burst into flames, would you blame Nokia or say LG Chemicals, which makes batteries? They also made or still make the batteries Apple uses.

No one cares. all they know is Samsung phones last longer and have higher capacity. your technical points are moot except to nerds. CONSUMERS put more importance on marketing, not technicalities.
 
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we've seen numerous well optimized android phones that are faster than the iPhone xs in actual usage.
 
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I'm jumping off this merry-go-round.

iPhones are ridiculously priced and have become frustrating to use (headphone jack anyone?). Samsung phones aren't far behind in terms of price.

My next phone will be a non-flagship version. I saw the Samsung A9 in the supermarket the other day for £239. Looked fine to me.
 
We have seen some that are similar but not really faster
We’ve seen some android phones open apps faster due to less animation but none that appear to be subjectively faster. Apples soc crush the competition objectively in every standard benchmark and use case involving a standard suite of tests.
 
Exynos galaxy s10 benchmark is alot better than snapdragon.

4500-4600 single score and 10000-11000 multi.

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