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The Silicon division of Apple is one team that seems capable of running fairly autonomously without the executive Cabal's hands allover it. It also seems to be the one division that consistently moves forward.

Not ashamed to say that Apple's got the best mobile silicon in the business.

but at the same time. These improvements, while great on paper, have less and less actual impact on usability. We're already at a point of diminishing returns for 90% of the worlds use case. Users just aren't generally going to feel the difference between all these different devices despite the benchmark scores (which have their own faults).

As Apple continues to push forward on innovation in their CPUs. they are going to need to find a market that takes advantage of that power. As I believe for the vast majority of user, these improvements just won't be all that noticed on a phone.

Apple will need to find a place for these CPU's. the iPad is obviously the next logical one, however, that brings up the typical arguments over the ipad being crippled due to software and not taking advantage of all that power. The next would be their computers, and that too has another entire thread that could have hundreds of posts about.

I think Apple is in a position where they need to expand the uses of their CPU's or risk their engineers going elsewhere as their work becomes less meaningful towards the iPhones usage. I also don't think Apple is a true threat in the CPU world because they refuse to sell or license their designs to anyone else. Sure, the A series CPU might eventually make it's way into MacBooks, But as MacBook sales decline this market is becoming smaller everyday. If they refuse to sell/license their CPU's, Apple could risk being alone in the industry on their own hardware platform again that is unsupported by the general compute industry. They've been there before and it doesn't tend to work out being a 5% player in an exclusive bubble.
 
This isn’t a spec, this is the benchmark: a quantification of real world performance. Sooo the thing apple fanatics always get excited about
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I’m interested in why you think that; Apple Pay is great as is and is offered at more places at the moment
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Mobile gaming is picking up a lot of momentum now. The full versions of Fortnite, Civ 6, and PUBG are all present on the App Store now and the trend will continue. Fortnite made millions last year off mobile and fans are all in agreement that they want to see the graphics begin to match the consol versions.

Samsung Pay works with MST, so it can work on more CC terminals. Companies don’t need a terminal upgrade to get Samsung Pay like they do with Apple Pay to an extent.
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Based on?

Samsung Pay is more ubiquitous and offers a more comprehensive rewards program.
 
Samsung Pay works with MST, so it can work on more CC terminals. Companies don’t need a terminal upgrade to get Samsung Pay like they do with Apple Pay to an extent.
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Samsung Pay is more ubiquitous and offers a more comprehensive rewards program.
It is more ubiquitous? Most sellers in my area have upgraded cc terminals. Even the small family owned businesses accept Apple Pay. That ship has long sailed.
 
Nowadays the only test that's worth anything is to use them both for a bit and see which one you prefer.
In real world performance the difference is almost nothing that even my S8+ opens Apps faster than my X.
There’s more to processing power than opening apps. Every year a new benchmark comes out, every reaction seems to be it doesn’t matter/they’re lying.
The upcoming 2019 Samsung S10+ hasn't even caught up to the 2017 iPhone X.
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reminds me of when the Galaxy s8 barely beat out the 6s.
 
Its ironic since Apple used to be the one the boasts that its not about the numbers but real life uses. They used to have this photoshop on Mac vs on Windows demos.

Either way, although I feel iOS is outdated and could be vastly improved, Android and Android hardware are worse options either way...
 
Too bad iPhone loses to what really matters besides a paper benchmark.
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Not anymore since the S9, Snapdragon beats the Exynos in both performance and battery life.

Odd, Android users always tell me never to get a Samsung. The hardware is great, but the Android implementation is a ****** one.
 
Yep... That's great. But phones are rapidly getting to a point where the things you can do the processing power is limited by the screen size and lack of keyboard. Running a fully fletched version of Adobe Premiere on your phone is not something to strive for. They should all start focus on giving us battery lives that are great.

I remember my first laptop was amazing for having 4 hours and 30 minutes of battery. Today, anything lower than 12 hours is ridiculously bad.
 
There's not even a use for the current amount of computing power, or last gen's. Unless you count the AR emojis.
Again, it’s a good thing for the future of mobile computing. Plus, it’s never bad the power because it future proofs your phone, giving you longer service life.

The chips also enable insane image processing, neural networks, and FaceID.
 
Funny how Apple fanatics are all about the tech specs when it suits them.

"Specs don't matter"
-A helluva lot of Apple fanatics when Apple is behind in the spec war

"Aawwwwww yeaaaaaah!!!!!! Suck it [insert other company here]!! WE are the best. WE know how to [insert winning spec]!! WE kicked [insert other company here] butt.
-A helluva lot of Apple fanatics when Apple is ahead in the spec war

Naw you guys are scewing ****. We like to make fun of Android by imitation. Trust me, I know my iPhone is more powerful than most Androids and i don’t really care other than the fact I’m gonna get 3+ years more support from my company than you.

Now go and talk about your 8 GB RAM Android somewhere else ;)
 
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Samsung Pay works with MST, so it can work on more CC terminals. Companies don’t need a terminal upgrade to get Samsung Pay like they do with Apple Pay to an extent.

Just researched MST, and for the US it sounds like it would be really handy, but probably not anywhere else though. In Canada and Europe and maybe other places I know they don’t even swipe cards anymore. The US is pretty behind on payments technologies, except that we’re in the process of skipping those used in other countries and moving straight to mobile payments.

TL;DR NFC works anywhere that’s updated their payments terminals, MST works anywhere in the US
 
Naw you guys are scewing ****. We like to make fun of Android by imitation. Trust me, I know my iPhone is more powerful than most Androids and i don’t really care other than the fact I’m gonna get 3+ years more support from my company than you.

Now go and talk about your 8 GB RAM Android somewhere else ;)
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"Specs don't matter"
-A helluva lot of Apple fanatics when Apple is behind in the spec war

"Aawwwwww yeaaaaaah!!!!!! Suck it [insert other company here]!! WE are the best. WE know how to [insert winning spec]!! WE kicked [insert other company here] butt.
-A helluva lot of Apple fanatics when Apple is ahead in the spec war

Benchmarks are not specs, specs include core counts and clock speeds. Both of which are beaten by the new snapdragon if I’m not mistaken. See? Specs still don’t matter ;)
 
Yay another benchmark fight. Who cares. Both phones are plenty fast. Samsung's crap software, and not its hardware, have been its weakness. Though Samsung has re-done things with One UI, time will tell if it will be any more than window dressing.

Anyhow, Apple and Samsung can continue to battle it out for another, more ignominious honor: worst AI assistant.
 
Apple can do any throttling in any time they want and they already showed it, if it's not the right time for them now it will be in the next iOS update (13). My X isn't as fast as it was when I bought it, just the UI became way smoother with iOS 12 in fact my battery health is at 91% with 1 year of usage. iPhones don't last long stop with that myth.
If you erase the phone and set it up as a new device, it will likely be as fast as it used to be, as some files apparently can corrupt. I'm lucky though; my iPhone 6S Plus containing backups and apps from even my old iPhone 4 is incredibly zippy with a new battery!
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Funny how Apple fanatics are all about the tech specs when it suits them.
Not about specs. Benchmarks indicate what to expect more than specs.
 
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Samsung needs to switch to their own Exynos chips. I hear they are higher performance than the Snapdragon parts.

They stick with the Snapdragon parts because they need Qualcomm modems in the USA for VZW and Sprint. They don't have the nads to take on Qualcomm like Apple does.

Not necessarily. In some generations the Qualcomm SoCs were faster (easy to compare since there are often both Exynos and Snapdragon variants of the same phone). And neither can generally touch Apple's chips.
 
In the US. The vast majority of the smaller brands business comes from outside the US. Here in the UK, Huawei is a very popular brand, and the second largest manufacturer in the world. Almost unknown in the US though.
I'm guessing that's because it's not made in Russia :)
 
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