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The single core performance seems pathetic. My Note 9 (Exynos CPU) gets 3700. So this can't be right
 
Thats what you get with Qualcomm.
Qualcomm, TSMC, and device manufacturers all have to make a profit.
For Apple, it's just TSMC and Apple. They can afford to squeeze more onto each chip.

Qualcomm have no interest in making the fastest processor. Cut down to just enough to maximize profit.
Just look at the freaking cache size difference between A12 and 845...

Reminder, Qualcomm has no real competitor due to modem monopoly.

I don't understand this statement, can you clarify? - You are saying that because Qualcomm has a market advantage in SOCs for Android that they are not motivated to improve their performance YoY?
 
Newsflash: The A series chips are the best on the market.

But just wait: just like the Camera, competitors will catch up. The iPhone XS is like the 3rd or 4th best phone camera on the market now.
 
to the surprise of no one....pretty sure it was the same last year with the A-11 and whatever the current Snap Dragon is.

I'd like to see an A series benchmark against whatever the new Kirin processor is.
 
Doesn’t even matter. Samsung has other ways to differentiate their products than Apple does. For instance, Samsung Pay is so much more better than Apple Pay.
 
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Funny how Apple fanatics are all about the tech specs when it suits them.

This isn’t a spec, this is the benchmark: a quantification of real world performance. Sooo the thing apple fanatics always get excited about
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Doesn’t even matter. Samsung has other ways to differentiate their products than Apple does. For instance, Samsung Pay is so much more better than Apple Pay.

I’m interested in why you think that; Apple Pay is great as is and is offered at more places at the moment
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Even if they were equal, would there be something to use that power? A lot of people point to iPhone having a video rendering app that goes super fast. Does Android have one of those sort of pointless show off apps?

Mobile gaming is picking up a lot of momentum now. The full versions of Fortnite, Civ 6, and PUBG are all present on the App Store now and the trend will continue. Fortnite made millions last year off mobile and fans are all in agreement that they want to see the graphics begin to match the consol versions.
 
I'd call that a good spanking.
It was the greatest bit of foresight by Apple to work on their own CPU silicon, which will eventually be a SOC with everything on it - including cell modem.
Every other smart phone, smart watch and tablet vendor is effectively just a Qualcomm reseller.
If Qualcomm had a total monopoly on the hardware no one would be in a position to stand up to their abusive, and likely to be proven illegal, licensing practices.
Refusing to supply Apple with chips - imagine if Apple didn't have the A series?
Remember the "64 bit is just a gimmick" quote from the Qualcomm marketing dweeb who got fired?
LOL!
 
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This is another form of innovation Apple rarely gets credit for from the haters.

And remember, the mobile processing is something that in short term produces a snappy phone, with long service life, but ALSO paves the way for future devices that will need a ton of computing power for the next generation of mobile.

So no, this type of power isn’t just to open Instagram faster. It’s paving the way for the future of mobile computing and kudos to Apple for investing heavily in this area. It will give them a huge advantage.
There's not even a use for the current amount of computing power, or last gen's. Unless you count the AR emojis.
 
I’m more curious what Samsung will do this year to get people to buy their phones. We all know that the Galaxy s and Note series haven’t been selling well over the past few years. In my region, Samsung was giving a free TV with their phone. That’s how desperate they were. I hope they are doing more this year. Maybe add a refrigerator or washing machine. :D

Meanwhile, Xiaomi will come out with a Pocofone F2 with the same SD855 for a third of the price a few months after this S10.
 
Real world tests tell the truth.....and the latest snapdragons as of late typically outperform apples processors. You guys are stuck in a gated box and cant do half of the things your supposedly speedy processor is capable of. So android fans are feeling great......

No one outside of this forum will be benchmarking their devices as long as its fast and smooth. Your processors are really only useful on the iPads and that's barely since it doesnt even take advantage of the so called power and capabilities you boast about.

This comes from a guy with a fully loaded new iPad pro....

Just because you say a lie about something doesn’t make it true. The Snapdragons do NOT outperform the Apple chips, and ALL of the benchmarks show this to be true. Keep your lies to yourself next time? Did you even read or look at the data in this article?
 
This doesn’t mean much to me. Phones are powerful enough now. iOS has quirks and bugs and opportunities for refinement and greater functionality that need to be solved and realized. The only advancement I really care about now from the processor is how much battery life it can get.

So much better for running Instagram
, YouTube at non-native downscaled 1080p on the XR, and Snapchat quicker before having to pay to get the battery replaced.

And the A series chips would make the iPhone split screen multitasking and desktop Linux mode a breeze. If the iPhone actually had these Samsung features.

 
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Yes, the one thing Apple does do right, SOC’s.... and it proves that even more when it makes iOS that speeds up older phones like the 6S, not slow them down!

Glad to know then that my XR will beat the next Galaxy and probably Note phones, in synthetic benchmarks anyway.
 
I don't understand this statement, can you clarify? - You are saying that because Qualcomm has a market advantage in SOCs for Android that they are not motivated to improve their performance YoY?

Yes, because if you want their modem on Android, you have to use their ARM processor. They have to improve of course, but at the minimal. Seriously, just check the specs on their chip.... they are made in the same TSMC fab as Apple's SOC.
Instead of saying Apple are using 7nm SOC, you might as well said TSMC has achieved 7nm ARM SOC manufacturing process.

If Qualcomm are will to pay for the material cost + TSMC/Samsung resources, they can be on par with Apple's SOC.
 
This isn’t a spec, this is the benchmark: a quantification of real world performance. Sooo the thing apple fanatics always get excited about
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I’m interested in why you think that; Apple Pay is great as is and is offered at more places at the moment
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Mobile gaming is picking up a lot of momentum now. The full versions of Fortnite, Civ 6, and PUBG are all present on the App Store now and the trend will continue. Fortnite made millions last year off mobile and fans are all in agreement that they want to see the graphics begin to match the consol versions.

Is Civ 6 on Android?
 
Apple can do any throttling in any time they want and they already showed it, if it's not the right time for them now it will be in the next iOS update (13). My X isn't as fast as it was when I bought it, just the UI became way smoother with iOS 12 in fact my battery health is at 91% with 1 year of usage. iPhones don't last long stop with that myth.

My launch day iPhone X is at 98% battery and faster than it was at launch.
 
I’m more curious what Samsung will do this year to get people to buy their phones. We all know that the Galaxy s and Note series haven’t been selling well over the past few years. In my region, Samsung was giving a free TV with their phone. That’s how desperate they were. I hope they are doing more this year. Maybe add a refrigerator or washing machine. :D

Meanwhile, Xiaomi will come out with a Pocofone F2 with the same SD855 for a third of the price a few months after this S10.

I am a long toti Samsung user but there is nothing wrong going after $300 Pocophone (than paying $190 for battery case) with latest specs. That's the beauty of Android ecosystem where competition is guaranteed and consumers benefit.

Samsung will also be forced to reduce prices to stay relevant in the market. Fortunately, their investors are not that much greedy hence chances are very high that we might see valued products in comparison with other premium players in the market.

I have Note 9 which is one of the best in the market
 
Just because you say a lie about something doesn’t make it true. The Snapdragons do NOT outperform the Apple chips, and ALL of the benchmarks show this to be true. Keep your lies to yourself next time? Did you even read or look at the data in this article?


Did you even read that I said "Real World"...now you go back to your real world......
 
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What's not mentioned in the article is that the S10's graphics chip significantly outperforms the iPhone's. The Qualcomm 855 is more than capable of running Android 9 as smooth as iOS on the iPhone, but gaming, AR and VR performance will be dramatically higher than on the iPhone. Not that any of this really matters as last year's flagship devices all perform lag free already. Nobody will notice a 2% performance difference at that level.

But if it gives the iPhone fanatics satisfaction, keep believing what you want. I much rather have a capable voice assistant than a imperceptible power advantage.
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Thats what you get with Qualcomm.
Qualcomm, TSMC, and device manufacturers all have to make a profit.
For Apple, it's just TSMC and Apple. They can afford to squeeze more onto each chip.

Qualcomm have no interest in making the fastest processor. Cut down to just enough to maximize profit.
Just look at the freaking cache size difference between A12 and 845...

Reminder, Qualcomm has no real competitor due to modem monopoly.

You do know that the Apple Watch runs on Qualcomm chips, right?
 
When was the last time anyone benchmarked their phone, and seen how that made any difference in the real world? Is my XS Max x times faster than the 8 Plus I had before? Benchmarks say yes, I couldn’t tell you the difference.

When using Samsung devices in my work, do they feel x times slower than my phone? Not at all.

Apple’s A series chips are some of the best on the market, but in phones it doesn’t really mean anything. iPhone 7 still feels plenty fast for more people, and this is the problem Apple have at the moment. It’s not enough to just have a “faster” processor anymore. Samsung owners aren’t buying them based on benchmarks. Neither are owners of every other phone out there. Nobody is going into Carphone Warehouse and asking what the GeekBench scores are for each handset.

But if this is what makes people happy, so be it. As for the comment on the first page of “can’t touch us”, it is absolutely pathetic. Us? Really? No wonder owners of Apple devices are mocked.
 
I’m more curious what Samsung will do this year to get people to buy their phones. We all know that the Galaxy s and Note series haven’t been selling well over the past few years. In my region, Samsung was giving a free TV with their phone. That’s how desperate they were. I hope they are doing more this year. Maybe add a refrigerator or washing machine. :D

Meanwhile, Xiaomi will come out with a Pocofone F2 with the same SD855 for a third of the price a few months after this S10.

We also all know that Apple's had a terrible year and that their phones haven't been selling either. So not sure what you're getting at here.

Incidentally on topic - Apple's, Samsung's, Huawei's and Qualcomm's chips have all reached a performance level that runs both Android and Apple devices smoothly and completely lag free. Last year's phone cameras are still excellent. Just like with PCs and Macs, there's simply no reason to upgrade phones every year. Which is the main reason why Apple and Samsung haven't been selling the device numbers they had hoped they would.
 
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Leaked Benchmarks Suggest iPhone XS Outperforms Samsung's Upcoming Galaxy S10+

Yeah and the only way you will be able to tell that is if you run Geekbench.

If Samsung doesn't increase the price and gives the battery life a nice bump the upcoming S10 will be stupendous.
 
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