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Leaked Benchmarks Suggest iPhone XS Outperforms Samsung's Upcoming Galaxy S10+
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It's irrelevant to what I wrote and it's the only thing you can say.
I'm not trying to sell you phones so there is no need to give me explanations about which phone you can get and how, I don't care at all.
It doesn't change what I said earlier.
In terms of different phone models availability the US Market is one of the worse smartphone markets in the world.
Way inferior to Europe or Asia.
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No one outside this forum will be benchmarking their devices? What are you talking about? Basically, every new Snapdragon receives a huge coverage and is heavily benchmarked on basically all tech sites.
When it comes to CPUs, the only real way to see if one is better than another is to run a benchmark, as personal perception of the smoothness and snapyness is highly subjective and may defer from one person to antoher.
To say that iOS odoes not take full advantage of a specific CPU performance could be relatievly true depending on what you are using your device for but you will be ignoring the fact that this "hidden and unexplored" performace opens the possibility for many new funcionalities and features to be realeased for this specific device. This is the point of pushing into the CPUs performace race. It makes you device more capable for future software developments even if you can take full advantage of this performace right out of the box. Nowdays, the vast majority of people can directly transition to an iPad Pro for their daily computing and never tuch a MC or PC again. This was not the case a few years ago but thank to the heavy push by Apple both on hardware and software side, it is the true situation nw. Ofc, there is still a lot of work to be done and I agree that the hardware performace is infront of the software capability.
No, you're screeching like a parrot showing synthetic tests that have no basis in the real world apart from showing YoY improvement in a mobile SoC. The reality is SnapDragons suck over time and won't ever get close to whatever Apple can put out, throw in the many issues Android still has a decade later, and you get a subpar product over time.
The Samsung S11 could have dual SnapDragon 865 processors and a single A13 will run circles around it in synthetics and real world use.
It shouldnt be a suprise and shouldnt be the other way around taking into consideration that Apple basically has 250 bilion dollars in cash and securities stacked in their basemant. This gives them a huge advantage as they can buy the best engineers, the best technology, the best hardware, and literally dedicate unlimited amount of resources to their chips development teams. Achieve better results than the competition is logic consequence when the "cost" of something is barely taken into consideration when deciding what to do and how to do it.
LoL but those synthetic tests that have no basis in the real world is the only area where apple can show it's CPU superiority. So going by this logic Apple's superiority is in the end irrelevant.
Also it looks like you don't know much about "SnapDragons".
LoL OK, buddy calm down, you are starting to derail quite badly.
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How does performance benchmarks not include tech specs?
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ermm apart ftom Intel, ohh and AMD
The 855 pre-production barely touches the iPhone 7's A10. It clashes against Hi-Silicon's chip. I can't say I have much faith the production grade product is going to wow anyone on the same phone series or other coming from an 845.
I would not be surprised if Apple has internal iPhone builds using SnapDragon SoC with iOS and it being faster than a flagship Android.
Not really. "A" processors are several years ahead of whatever reference design QC can put out. They tried their hand at a custom SoC, it was a dud.
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You're comparing an SoC to an x86 processor. SoCs are built differently than an x86 processor that gives them an edge in some tests and real world use. The truth is for complicated tasks, the traditional processors will pull away. ARM can get to i7 performance at the high end, but the complexity of the SoC will increase by a wide margin as well as power use. It'd be safer to assume we'll see ARM powered desktops that work as well as traditional processors in 2025-2028.
What RUBBISH if "Apple has internal iPhone builds using SnapDragon SoC" then why would it be faster "than a flagship Android" ITS THE SAME CHIP!
In what manner or form is it the same chip? QC uses a reference ARM design. Apple designed their own ARM chip and has a partner that produces their ARM chip for them and them only. It merely uses a Qualcomm modem up until the switch to Intel's modem.
ARMs are RISC processors. Your post is akin to saying and Intel and AMD processor are the same. Just because they work on the x86-64 instruction set and are CISC processors doesn't mean they're the same. Two very different architectures. Two very different methods of transporting data. Two very different methods of core connection.
Yeah unleash that full on appleFan mode.
The same thing can be said about the A12 vs the A10 when you logic equates to synthetic tests that have no basis in the real world.
Yeah arguably "several" years ahead in synthetic tests that according to you don't matter.
Anyway the S855 looks great. It offers better graphics performance at lower power consumption that it's predecessor and better power consumption in everyday apps, better sustained performance, much better LTE speeds and 5G compatibility, faster Wifi, better Bluetooth, much better AI(which is something that will actually be used by Google and phone OEMs) etc. These are quantifiable improvements that will make 2019 phones overall better.
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But you are working on the assumption Apple is going to do it better... why? they can a do sub-standerd job just like every-one-else
This is all great and all that.....
But like saying an iPad is more powerful than a proper laptop.
The fast device is still crippled by the locked down, limited OS on these devices.
Again, I love what Apple can do with hardware, but their own software is really holding the devices back now from being what they have the potential to be.
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And in the past Steve Jobs was still alive.
And your point is ?
But like saying an iPad is more powerful than a proper laptop.
The fast device is still crippled by the locked down, limited OS on these devices.
Again, I love what Apple can do with hardware, but their own software is really holding the devices back now from being what they have the potential to be.
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And in the past Steve Jobs was still alive.
And your point is ?
I dont know about credit but Apple for sure compensate its silicon team quite well in order to achieve such results. Give these young engineers 500k$+ per year and they will not get out of their labs for weeks or months if needed. I would have been more happy if the battery team followed the same work pattern and results.
Feel free to go through my posts where I've stated multiple times I prefer and use Android. The only Apple products I personally own are a MBP (the late 2016/early 2017 update revision) and a few iPads over the years. I used to use iPods. I've got a few that work. Outside of those, I don't own any other Apple products. It isn't "Apple Fan" mode when you understand the A processors are generally better in benches and real world use.
Except an older A series processor handles modern apps well compared to older SD processors of similar time frame. Though iOS 12 changed how older phones work in terms of processor ramping. This is also why an older iPhone is still fairly usable. I wish I could say the same about my old S5 or S6, even loaded up with stock Android.
Generally benches are better on Apple because of the tight integration between hardware and OS. The reality is they perform the same apps better IRL.
Each hardware iteration is going to be better than what it replaces. That's the sole goal of any hardware manufacturer. The crux of the matter is whether those features and raw speed can be unified and integrated by Android and third-party OEMs that offer their own flavor (unless Google One), without impacting performance over time. Or simply not offering those options. And chances are whatever Apple comes out will be better, especially in gaming.
Well didn't you notice the obvious bias in his posts?
Thta's why, there is no real logic behind it.
Explains why Apple is basically so far ahead .
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First you need the hardware performace in order to develop the software that would take advantage of such performance. What is the point of having desktop-class Adobe Photoshop software ported to an iPad if it cant run smoothly on this device? If you buy flagship phones you will be always in this situation. It has been always this way.
Just to correct you here. Samsung the phone maker operates as a separate entity than Samsung the battery maker. In addition, affected Samsung phones that got recalled used both Samsung batteries sourced by the company that makes Samsung batteries and a third party not connected with Samsung. If a Nokia phone were to burst into flames, would you blame Nokia or say LG Chemicals, which makes batteries? They also made or still make the batteries Apple uses.
That's exactly my point, it's only known to the "enthusiast crowd" as you put it. In the UK and Europe, the low cost Xiaomi and Huawei phones are used by far far more than enthusiasts. The main carriers like o2 and EE (TMO) offer OnePlus, Huawei, all the Sony handsets, Nokia, LG, Moto etc etc. There aren't many brands that aren't covered by the carriers. Lower cost brands that the vast majority of people have ever heard of are offered here. The majority of handsets that are sold in the UK fall in the £150-400 bracket, which Samsung have many options, along with all the other brands I just mentioned. I work in selling replacement phone parts to repair shops across the UK and Europe, so I have a rough idea of which phones are popular at any given time.
The US phone market and carrier setup is a mess. The plans offered are extortionate, companies like AT&T straight up lying about 5G etc, coverage is embarrassingly poor in places. It's no wonder that a lot of companies don't bother to market in the states.