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Leaked Documents Suggest Apple Could Be Forced to Build iPhones With User-Removable Batteries in Europe
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the leaked documents "i don't like how phone companies like apple make consumable parts of the phone, like the battery, non user replaceable. these who don't know better thinks their phone is too slow or too old once the battery stop offering peak performance. i will therefore propose a bill that will make companies like apple and samsung to stop making the general public having the assumption that once their battery has stop offering peak performance, they need to ditch the old phone and get a new one when all they need is a $20-30 new battery"[/QUOTE]
So you are the grand poobah who gets to decide how long a battery should last, how it should perform, how it should be replaced, who replaces it, and how much a company should charge and profit. YOU decide that. Or you and your committee. You know, the omnipotent overlords of what consumers should expect. Gotcha. ::rollseyes::
the leaked documents "i don't like how phone companies like apple make consumable parts of the phone, like the battery, non user replaceable. these who don't know better thinks their phone is too slow or too old once the battery stop offering peak performance. i will therefore propose a bill that will make companies like apple and samsung to stop making the general public having the assumption that once their battery has stop offering peak performance, they need to ditch the old phone and get a new one when all they need is a $20-30 new battery"[/QUOTE]
So you are the grand poobah who gets to decide how long a battery should last, how it should perform, how it should be replaced, who replaces it, and how much a company should charge and profit. YOU decide that. Or you and your committee. You know, the omnipotent overlords of what consumers should expect. Gotcha. ::rollseyes::
And people will be chucking their old clapped-out batteries in a river every six months because Amazon are doing a permanent deal on 3rd party knockoffs. Unforeseen consequences of government overreach? Never!!!
80% of UK companies dont trade with EU, so I doubt in the future they will have to follow EU rules. The remaining 20% will have to, but only for the items/services they send there.
I love it 😍for the iPhone and for our iPlanet: let's start thinking about the future, if we still want one and do something better. Instead of throwing away the full iPhone or iPad and just change the battery.
You know that Apple recycles them for free, right? if you’re throwing it away that’s on YOU.
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Someone else showing their ignorance.
The EU is democratic because it operates at the will of the democratically elected governments of member states. EU citizens also have the opportunity to vote for Members of the European Parliament.
Although Nigel Farage has been an antogonist in chief in promoting anti-EU rhetoric, even he concedes that without UKIP MEPs in the European Parliament the Brexit movement would not have got off the ground. He also concedes that this was only possible in a system of proportional respresentation, which was one of the few opportunities for English voters to have their democratic will properly recognised.
Current US pricing is $49 for iphone8 and earlier, $69 for iphone X and later.
Current Ireland and Spanish pricing is € 55 for iphone8 and earlier, € 75 for iphoneX and later.
Seems about on par given then usual $/€ price "parity"
iPhone Battery Replacement - Apple Support (IE)
Need more power? An Apple Store or Authorised Service Provider near you can replace your iPhone battery. See the associated cost by coverage type.support.apple.com
Reemplazo de la batería del iPhone - Soporte técnico de Apple (ES)
¿Necesitas que la batería dure más? Puedes acudir a un Apple Store o un Proveedor de servicios autorizado cercano para reemplazar la batería del iPhone. Consulta el coste asociado por tipo de cobertura.
Here in the U.K. it is £69 for anything above the X, that’s just over 90 US dollars. Not what I’d consider value.
A user replaceable battery design would be most welcome.
Since everyone’s tax rates differ I merely provided the list prices. I expected anyone savvy enough to find their way here could add their local tax for themselves. If you’re having difficulty with that though I’m sure folks here would be happy to assist you with the math involved.
That said, depending on just how the service is classified it might not be taxed, as most services aren’t subject to sales tax here in GA
Applicable tax rate based on geography difference doesn’t deter from the original point I stated earlier, if you’re having difficulty grasping the original point of the argument i'm sure folks here would be happy to assist you with the concept being debated here.
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haha If the EU keeps it up they wont have any cell phones
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it would be rather funny if the EU version came with no battery inside the phone but with a battery case in the box.
If I remember correctly I was responding to folks who claimed they’d have to throw their phones away if / when the battery failed. Point was that it’s certainly possible to replace the battery and even not that expensive.
As to value, I’d imagine third party shops likely would cost less.
I can’t remember changeing out a battery since I carried a couple spares for my blackberry on an 11 day hike in 2006. I typically have kept phones two to three years, upgrading due to new features an trading or selling the old phone. I don’t recall every have substantial battery degradation, the battery has never been a reason for me to upgrade.
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I already addressed your point that some people spend hundreds of dollars to replace a phone instead of a couple hours and $49-69 plus any taxes.
I said “You can’t fix stupid”.
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Removable batteries was a problem solved by the first iPhone. I owned several treo smartphones that attempted to do what Apple actually pulled off later. There was one consistent point of failure, the removable battery. Over time the connection would deminished from regular use and cause all kinds of issues including shorting out the motherboard in one case.
The EU comes up with some cool rules. How can the USA join the EU?
Why? The case would be a part of the phone and would make the phone marginally thicker like adding a removable internal battery would. I wouldn't be surprised to see Android manufacturers do the same to get around this requirement. They're not going to change their phones worldwide to appease the EU.
...and at the same time I’m extremely happy because I do in Europe.
Elvis has already left the building, I’m afraid. Both the EU and the US are legislating hard, for example, on manufacturers designing products in such a way that they have user serviceable parts. Commonly known as Right to Repair.
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Generally, it is a good thing. That’s why the EU fine the UK when it pollutes the environment or doesn’t clean up its beaches. It’s why the EU fines corporations when they engage in anticompetitive practises.
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Agreed, people asking for a thinner phone said no one other than the designer Apple.
A phone has can be held comfortably in one hand without fatigue is what a handheld device is supposed to be. If you have pop-sockets, rings, etc you have just lost the point of a “hand-held” device. This is why I believe some form of eyewear is coming soon, the brains will be in the phone and it can be a set size. If people want larger screen wear some linked eye where, similar to notifications on a watch.
It really makes no sense to have several display sizes for a phone with ridiculous marketing names. Plus, Max and Pro Max, what next Max Plus or Ultra.
Loss of IPX seriously this is an area to innovate, besides what are they saying when an IPX device is opened for repairs the IPX is compromised. Get real there is equipment for diving and other water based usages that are designed with removable components and still retain IPX, just an excuse, instead start innovating.
Thickness, once again phones prior to the original iPhone has removable batteries and stayed thin for the technology available at the time. We are over a decade since I am sure engineers are itching to solve these issues instead of giving phone manufacturers reason to keep they status quo design and manufacturing laziness.
This law cannot come and should be passed sooner.
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Lol no ports and then batteries charged like a drill set battery on an external charger. Phones will come with spare batteries.
And I am sure present external power battery banks are different.
The batteries in quite a few iPhone already are user replaceable if you know how to follow an ifixit guide.
The EU instead should focus on ensuring that manufacturers such as Apple make genuine spare batteries available, for those that want to perform their own repairs (without relying on dodgy ebay batteries of varying quality)
The EU instead should focus on ensuring that manufacturers such as Apple make genuine spare batteries available, for those that want to perform their own repairs (without relying on dodgy ebay batteries of varying quality)