Leaked Image Shows Three Models in Samsung Galaxy S10 Line-up

[Justanotherfanboy]

Hmmm....
I wonder why they’d bother making a competitor to my iPhone XR; I thought that was a garbage overrated and overpriced phone that only an idiot would buy & Apple should have never produced such a “flop”?

/s

 

[DJLAXL]

OK so you are talking about the Note 9 and try to generalize to the entire Android market.
Also the simple fact is: What does Android 9 bring to the table for a Note 9?
The way I see it Note 9 is already ahead in multiple ways in comparison to Android 9 from a software perspective.

Bro, why are you mad? LOL

Have fun on your old software. Name other flagships available in the US on 9 besides the Pixel?

Point being, if I have a flagship phone why would I be on old software when something newer is available? Worst problem with Android. You can justify YOUR personal beliefs all you want.

 

[ROGmaster]

Bro, why are you mad? LOL

Unlike you I'm just being fair regarding the situation.

Have fun on your old software.

What are you talking about? What's wrong with Oreo? and what makes Pie so much better? The fact that it's a higher number?

Name other flagships available in the US on 9 besides the Pixel?

There aren't many flagships available in the US in the first place but OK, the OP 6T.

Point being, if I have a flagship phone why would I be on old software when something newer is available?

So what if something newer is available? I don't see how does that make it better or desirable.
Also Samsung's Android skin is well beyond the stock android version. This is something you insist on ignoring.

Worst problem with Android. You can justify YOUR personal beliefs all you want.

Right back at you.
Regarding Samsung Galaxy S line, you get 1 major update per year. How is that different from an iphone? And how is that such a big problem?

 

[DNichter]

LoL Yeah right. You can buy Android phones with 64Gb storage for as little as 180$.
https://www.amazon.com/Xiaomi-MI-A1-Unlocked-Warranty/dp/B076MBXX2R
You have to look at the low end range to find Android phones with 32Gb storage or less.
And all this while excluding micro SD cards which is quite significant taking in consideration that most cheaper Android phones do have such a slot.
I recently recommended for a 65 year old neighbor of mine buying a Redmi 5A, it was 100 euros new and it had 32Gb storage.
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LoL what legacy problems? I bet you don't even know what you are taking about.
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Didin't need what? A feature you never had in the first place?

Security issues, privacy issues, rogue software, bad performance management, stuff like that. Due to Android's lack (by choice) of control, they allow for more of these issues to creep in.

I've never needed to edit/manipulate any files that live on the device, I just need to access and use them - which I don't have an issue with.

 

[ROGmaster]

Security issues, privacy issues, rogue software, bad performance management, stuff like that. Due to Android's lack (by choice) of control, they allow for more of these issues to creep in.

That's all in your mind. Like I've suspected, you obviously don't know what you are talking about.
There is no lack of control, you are clearly confusing having options with "lack of control". This is due to your limited perspective and lack of understanding of how Android works.

I've never needed to edit/manipulate any files that live on the device, I just need to access and use them - which I don't have an issue with.

Well you really don't know because you never that option in the first place.

 

[ColdShadow]

But the S10 also has a camera bump, so it's not just Apple being either obsessed with general phone thinness (as much as some might think that only nefarious motivations can explain things they disagree with) that resorts to this design method.

Samsung put the camera bump in center so in terms of aesthetics and design it’s much nicer to look at vs Apple’s weird corner vertical bump on iPhone X series..also Samsung’s bump is not as deep as Apple’s.
That being said I was mainly comparing it to the recent leak/concept image of iPhone 11,with the huge cubic block of camera at one side.
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Now let’s be fair. This is what you originally said:



Two things worth noting. First, you never said anything about the LOCATION of the “bump”, so if that is your criteria, then it is a new one. Secondly, your complaint was that you “hate” the “lumpy camera” in the later iPhones, yet the new Samsung appears to have a very similar, prominent lump yet you say that the “back looks neat”.

Based on that, I would have to conclude that, 1) You totally moved the goalposts so that you could question my statement, and 2) your reasons for liking the Samsung and disliking the iPhone are quite inconsistent.

If you like Samsung better, then just say so and be done with it, but don’t put words in my mouth and change the discussion in order to attempt to preserve your point.

I have an iPhone XS Max and before that X,so there is a reason I buy these vs Samsung models,let’s say I’m in a more advanced stage of criticising these products.and your simple,basic reply does not address my complaints.
In terms of aesthetics,what we see here defeats iPhones design (only talking about the rear of the phone and camera location /design).
The center location of the camera is a better,more appealing choice than a vertical corner camera.
Also U was talking about the bew concept/leak from iPhone 11 with that huge square on camera at the corner that looks like a joke made by photoshop to make fun of iPhone not X and X Max.

 

[manu chao]

Samsung put the camera bump in center so in terms of aesthetics and design it’s much nicer to look at vs Apple’s weird corner vertical bump on iPhone X series.

Placing something in a corner is far from weird. It's an often used design option in many disciplines. When smartphones had only a single (back) camera, it was the most widely used location, including all previous iPhones, iPads and iPod Touches. Nobody ever criticised the location before the camera grew a bump and doubled its presence. It also is a good location for technical reasons as it leaves the largest possible internal space that is not interrupted by a camera. On the iPhone X family, the vertical oblong also picks up the general shape of the phone, ditto for the silver ring around it. BTW, I think basically all hole-punch front-facing camera phones place the camera in a corner and not centred, but I haven't seen very criticism of this in regard to a lack of symmetry.

One cannot argue over personal taste. If you find it ugly, it is something that cannot be argued over. But one can acknowledge general design principles and based on those one cannot call the design 'obviously ugly'.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Security issues, privacy issues, rogue software, bad performance management, stuff like that. Due to Android's lack (by choice) of control, they allow for more of these issues to creep in.

I've never needed to edit/manipulate any files that live on the device, I just need to access and use them - which I don't have an issue with.

Can’t you edit and manipulate files in iCloud Drive ?

 

[balaplus]

Hmmm....
I wonder why they’d bother making a competitor to my iPhone XR; I thought that was a garbage overrated and overpriced phone that only an idiot would buy & Apple should have never produced such a “flop”?

/s

It is probably the perfect iphone for the masses.....that will die early due to ridiculous pricing!

 

[indychris]

I have an iPhone XS Max and before that X,so there is a reason I buy these vs Samsung models,let’s say I’m in a more advanced stage of criticising these products.and your simple,basic reply does not address my complaints.
In terms of aesthetics,what we see here defeats iPhones design (only talking about the rear of the phone and camera location /design).
The center location of the camera is a better,more appealing choice than a vertical corner camera.
Also U was talking about the bew concept/leak from iPhone 11 with that huge square on camera at the corner that looks like a joke made by photoshop to make fun of iPhone not X and X Max.

Oh, you’re at a more ‘advanced’ state of criticism. My apologies.

I was simply pointing out that you changed the discussion. There isn’t much ‘advanced’ about deflection, but honestly, I don’t care. The new S10 appears to have a ‘bump’. You said bumps are ugly, but then said this phone is awesome. I simply pointed out the contradiction in your statement. Personally, I don’t really care for either. I’ve got a couple of solid DSL’s for when I want to get down and dirty with my photography, and in the meantime my 8+ does a decent job of catching run of the mill daily stuff.

 

[DNichter]

Can’t you edit and manipulate files in iCloud Drive ?

Sure, I can rename, group, share, and tag as needed. This is all I have ever done with my files, so it was essentially the same as Finder was. I don't care about system files and stuff like that.

 

[ColdShadow]

Oh, you’re at a more ‘advanced’ state of criticism. My apologies.

I was simply pointing out that you changed the discussion. There isn’t much ‘advanced’ about deflection, but honestly, I don’t care. The new S10 appears to have a ‘bump’. You said bumps are ugly, but then said this phone is awesome. I simply pointed out the contradiction in your statement. Personally, I don’t really care for either. I’ve got a couple of solid DSL’s for when I want to get down and dirty with my photography, and in the meantime my 8+ does a decent job of catching run of the mill daily stuff.

I don’t understand what you find so funny?
I said the huge lump on iPhone is ugly,the one on Samsung is not,because it’s not on your face,out of place and not nearly as bad.
Is it too hard to understand? are you a machine that can’t understand the difference between 2 “lumps”?

and yes I said Im in more advanced stage of criticism because Ive owned every flagship iPhone,including Xs Max (current phone) as well as last few Galaxy flagships (excluding S9) so I’m not just some random fanboy who defends his own item.I see their pros and cons of each product and rightfully criticise their flaws.
do you have the same experience and “on same level”? or are you just defending your own phone?

Is this lump same as the ither to you just because both are lumps?

 

[DNichter]

That's all in your mind. Like I've suspected, you obviously don't know what you are talking about.
There is no lack of control, you are clearly confusing having options with "lack of control". This is due to your limited perspective and lack of understanding of how Android works.


Well you really don't know because you never that option in the first place.

Haha right, there aren't security, privacy, rogue app, or performance issues with Android. You hear about it almost daily. Android is a fine operating system, but it's flexibility is also it's biggest weakness. That's why Google is working to potentially replace Android with Fuchsia and work to fix some of those issues and regain some of the control that they have lost.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Sure, I can rename, group, share, and tag as needed. This is all I have ever done with my files, so it was essentially the same as Finder was. I don't care about system files and stuff like that.

Whilst android has a more robust file system I think iCloud Drive is sufficient, particularly if you have multiple Apple devices and even more so a Mac.

 

[DNichter]

Whilst android has a more robust file system I think iCloud Drive is sufficient, particularly if you have multiple Apple devices and even more so a Mac.

Yup, I've never really had a problem with it. It also integrates with my QNAP NAS so I manage most of my files through the Files app. If you prefer to manage your files like you would with a typical PC, I can see why Android would be better for some. For others, Apple's solution is better. I don't personally think there is a wrong choice, but to say the lack of a true file system is some huge detriment to iOS, I don't see it.

 

[ROGmaster]

Haha right, there aren't security, privacy, rogue app, or performance issues with Android.

Other OSs have problems as well. Remember iOS 11? It wasn't that long ago.
You premise regarding "legacy bla bla" and acting like those are inherent problems are simply wrong.
Like I've said you don't know what you are talking about, Android's supposed problems don't have anything do with PC legacy... like you claimed.

You hear about it almost daily.

No I don't and I do read tech news daily.

Android is a fine operating system, but it's flexibility is also it's biggest weakness.

No it's not.

That's why Google is working to potentially replace Android with Fuchsia and work to fix some of those issues and regain some of the control that they have lost.

Pure speculation.

 

[[AUT] Thomas]

Tizen is still alive and well on the galaxy smart watches.

Yes, but only there... at least for now.

Really? Tizen was intended for budget devices in emerging markets but Android Go has filled that gap without incurring the expense of developing and maintaining an OS in-house.

That statement wasn't about being on favor of Tizen -but more about Samsung doesn't really being a fan of google/android. The large OEMs already realized how google played them in the OHA. If you are not aware android is basically a legal nightmare for the open market.
If an OEM is selling an android phone with google apps pre installed they are not allowed to:

• offer the device with dualboot
• offer a device with another operating system with an Android VM

So, you can now go and stick to google-less android. In theory, that should be fine, but practically a lot of apps use the play services, so they REQUIRE google apps being installed.

In fact, and very practically, this killed the competition and IMHO google should have been sued for that practice long ago, preferably in the 100s of millions because that's the damage it did to the market and customers choice. In first place they plain and simple price dumped the competition out of the market and after that they abused their market position to force OEMs from offering Android compatible OSes.
It basically killed BlackBerry - they wanted to offer full Android Support in their BBOS 10 as well Android Devices alongside, but google screwed them over.
It still blocks projects like Sailfish OS from entering the market as OEMs using Google Android would loose their license if they offered the same device with Sailfish OS and an Android VM.

Feel free to read up on that... things might have changed slightly since I last checked, but I doubt google has changed for the better.

 

[DNichter]

Other OSs have problems as well. Remember iOS 11? It wasn't that long ago.
You premise regarding "legacy bla bla" and acting like those are inherent problems are simply wrong.
Like I've said you don't know what you are talking about, Android's supposed problems don't have anything do with PC legacy... like you claimed.

No I don't and I do read tech news daily.

No it's not.

Pure speculation.

Yes, iOS 11 had issues, but not inherent ones like security, privacy, rogue apps, or performance management. That’s been Android since day 1. At least Apple fixed the problems in iOS 12. Funny you call it speculation. You think Google is devloping it’s next gen OS that works on mobile, tablets, desktop, and wearables just for fun? Google sees the writing on the wall and is willing to admit the mistakes of the Android, but you won’t? The issues don’t make Android a bad OS, far from it, exteremely capable, but it has some underlying issues that warrant change.

 

[ROGmaster]

Yes, iOS 11 had issues, but not inherent ones like security, privacy, rogue apps, or performance management. That’s been Android since day 1.

iOS 11 especially had a lot security and performance management, stability issues so say whatever you want, it looks like common sense doesn't work with you and you still continue with the same nonsense.

Funny you call it speculation.

Why is that fact so funny?
Fuchsia is pre pre alpha not even Google knows how it will look in final form and when it will reach that stage. It's just a side project anyway, but fell free to continue to show you don't know what you are talking about.

 

[DNichter]

iOS 11 especially had a lot security and performance management, stability issues so say whatever you want, it looks like common sense doesn't work with you and you still continue with the same nonsense.



Why is that fact so funny?
Fuchsia is pre pre alpha not even Google knows how it will look in final form and when it will reach that stage. It's just a side project anyway, but fell free to continue to show you don't know what you are talking about.

Really grasping now. iOS 11 had performance issues early on, but that was it. All fixed by the end of its life and even better in iOS 12. Android has underlying issues that will only be fixed when Google replaces it. Moving on.

 

[ROGmaster]

Really grasping now. iOS 11 had performance issues early on, but that was it. Again, all fixed by the end of its life and even better in iOS 12.

No I'm not. iOS 11's performance issues were never fully fixed.
This is why Apple changed their initial plans with iOS 12 so they could fix with this new version the terrible mess iOS 11 was.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/apple...-after-delaying-major-feature-updates-report/

Android has underlying issues that will only be fixed when Google replaces it.

It does not.
For example Android Oreo(and nougat before it) was actually a step in the right direction, an improvement in terms of performance and resource management and security not a regression like iOS 11 was.
Pie does continue this progression(although I personally don't like some of the UI changes but here I'm talking about under the hood stuff).
For example the Mi A1, and Android One device, was launched with Android 7 and now it's at Android 9: performance has improved, battery management is better, stability is better, Ram management is as good as is can be. So a mid range phone after two major Android updates runs as great as ever. How do you explain that?

 

[DNichter]

No I'm not. iOS 11's performance issues were never fully fixed.
This is why Apple changed their initial plans with iOS 12 so they could fix with this new version the terrible mess iOS 11 was.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/apple...-after-delaying-major-feature-updates-report/



It does not.
For example Android Oreo(and nougat before it) was actually a step in the right direction, an improvement in terms of performance and resource management and security not a regression like iOS 11 was.
Pie does continue this progression(although I personalty don't like some of the UI changes but here I'm talking about under the hood stuff).
For example the Mi A1, and Android One device, was launched with Android 7 and now it's at Android 9: performance has improved, battery management is better, stability is better, Ram management is as good as is can be. So a mid range phone after two major Android updates runs as great as ever. How do you explain that?

We’ll just have to disagree here. For me, iOS 11 was largely free of any performance issues after the first two updates to it. iOS 12 obviously fixed all of it, as you mention. I wouldn’t consider one release any sort of underlying issues like Android has. Yes, performance has improved in Android, but the inherent issues relating to security and privacy continue to be a problem. Google created an open OS to collect as much data as possible, but now they are seeing that they don’t have as much control over their own destiny as they would like. Security and privacy are going to be major selling points in the future and they can see that they need to tighten things up and take a similar approach to Apple’s.

 

[ROGmaster]

We’ll just have to disagree here. For me.....

Yeah for you and only you.
Whatever.

 

[icolove]

Yeah for you and only you.
Whatever.

The dude puts all the stuff he owns in his signature, that tells you all you need to know.