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we keep agreeing :p

but yeah, i'm the same. ti's the reason i'm on Android now. At the end of the day, everytime I've been on an iphone, the limitations Apple imposes have stimied my capabilities to do what I want how I want.

is that fine for a lot of people? Sure. But i'm picky. I WANT to be able to define custom defaults. run programs that don't brute force close after 2 minutes of background. Run Tasker for custom IFTT rules and notifications. Receive a ZIP file in an email. open it, read the logs inside, cut and paste into another set of documents, zip it up and send it to vendor while i'm on the go (cause when you're on call, they don't care if you have a computer handy)

the hing is, Apple's hardware is amazing. I love it. but their software keeps letting me down :(. and not cause it's "poorly programmed"... but because Apple has intentionally limited the capabilities.

What works for you is what counts. Least options are there to fit people’s work load

I don’t get when people moan so much about apple but stay with their products. Android do great options after all
 
Meanwhile, rumor has it that Apple will be reusing the same design for a third year.

That should help the stagnating and plunging sales. Watch for those sales reports — going to be a massive failure and media will pounce.
 



Over the weekend, serial mobile leaker Evan Blass shared a leaked image of Samsung's forthcoming Galaxy S10 lineup, confirming earlier rumors that it will initially consist of three models to compete directly with Apple's latest devices, the iPhone XS, XS Max, and XR.

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Leaked official image via @evleaks

The handsets shown in the image are encased in clear covers and understood to be (from left to right) the S10E, the S10, and the S10+. All of the phones adopt Samsung's new edge-to-edge Infinity-O display, which features a small cutout at the upper right side of the device for the camera.

The S10 with 6.1-inch display is the mid-range device, while the S10E with 5.8-inch display is expected to be the most affordable model and appears in the image with two cameras on the rear where the other two phones have three. Meanwhile the premium S10+ with 6.4-inch display features two front-facing cameras housed within a longer pill-shaped hole punch.

Samsung is able to use a single camera cutout for the S10 because it has less technology than Apple's latest iPhones, which use a notch design to house the TrueDepth camera system that enables Face ID.

However, as suggested in the image, all the devices in the S10 line-up are expected to use in-display fingerprint scanners for authentication instead of the rear-mounted scanners featured on earlier Galaxy models.

Details on the phones' internal specs remain murky, although publicly shared benchmarks recently revealed the new S10+ model has 6GB of RAM and a Snapdragon 855 processor, earning the device lower Geekbench scores than Apple's latest iPhones.

In other news, Samsung's rumored 5G variant of its upcoming flagship, the tentatively named "Galaxy S10 X", has reportedly appeared in a recent firmware development. According to Sam Mobile, the software build references only South Korean carriers, suggesting development for the U.S. and European markets has yet to reach a similar stage.

Other rumored specs for the S10 X include a 6.7-inch Super AMOLED display, a 5,000 mAh battery and four rear cameras. The 5G model is expected to appear in the second quarter of 2019, with one report pegging it for a launch in late March.

Samsung's Unpacked Galaxy S10 launch event will take place on Wednesday, February 20 at 11:00 a.m. Pacific Time at the Bill Graham Civic Auditorium in San Francisco, California, where the company is also expected to demo a functioning version of its all-new foldable phone, dubbed the "Galaxy Fold".

Article Link: Leaked Image Shows Three Models in Samsung Galaxy S10 Line-up
[doublepost=1548098423][/doublepost]I just don't like Samsung phones. Other Samsung products are great but their phones are weak.
 
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Meanwhile, rumor has it that Apple will be reusing the same design for a third year.

That should help the stagnating and plunging sales. Watch for those sales reports — going to be a massive failure and media will pounce.

No they won’t

Why does the design need to change every year or two? It doesn’t

Next design change will be 1-2 years like it normal is each design..3-5 years
 
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Every smartphone maker is going to have a new phone this year and shocker...it will have an improved camera. I don’t see how that’s news. To me if there’s any news from these photos it’s that the GS10 appears to look just like the GS9 except for the camera arrangement. Is everyone going to complain about Samsung’s lack of innovation because this phone aesthetically looks like it’s predecessors?

True, but I guess there's potentially more interest in Samsung because they're one of the bigger manufacturers and often seen as the rival to the iPhone (although I'd argue that role now belongs to the Pixel except for the fact that it doesn't seem as mainstream as Samsung in my experience).
 
That S10E seems intriguing. I am not a fan of the curved edge design. The hole punch should have been avoided by symmetrical bezels. Notches, hole punches, swoops... the amount of useful screen gained is minimal at best. Can't wait for this trend to disappear.

I agree. Not a fan of it on my s9 because it distorts the view...Like brighter colours are just a bit weird or off axis on the edges. Blacks are fine and some colours are fine but if it's bright white you really see the blue shift and it's distracting. Missed the flat screen days of the s7
 
Meanwhile, rumor has it that Apple will be reusing the same design for a third year.
They most likely will. The target is $1 trillion sales per design although it just might not work this time around!
Apple badly needs the next big thing to stay on top..
 
They most likely will. The target is $1 trillion sales per design although it just might not work this time around!
Apple badly needs the next big thing to stay on top..

Maybe maybe not. Changing things just for sake of it is what it will end up destroying Apple. I feel like a lot of people do not understand how tech works because you don't change designs every single year just for the sake of changing it. That is an android/PC mentality which is fine if that works for you but you don't speak for the rest of us and I would suggest you check out things that have evolved overtime such as a cars, branding logos, etc instead of every year something different just for being different sakes.
 
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Maybe maybe not. Changing things just for sake of it is what it will end up destroying Apple. I feel like a lot of people do not understand how tech works because you don't change designs every single year just for the sake of changing it. That is an android/PC mentality which is fine if that works for you but you don't speak for the rest of us and I would suggest you check out things that have evolved overtime such as a cars, branding logos, etc instead of every year something different just for being different sakes.
Who said anything about changing things for the sake of it? The wider point is they need to implement new ideas if they want 40% profit margin.
Touch ID was massive without changing the physical look. Face ID works fine for me but I never had a problem with Touch ID in the first place
All I am implying is that the competition is racing ahead and a company like Apple with $150 billion in cash needs to be more nimble and not drag their feet in the name of conservatism.
 
Meanwhile, rumor has it that Apple will be reusing the same design for a third year.

That should help the stagnating and plunging sales. Watch for those sales reports — going to be a massive failure and media will pounce.

I'd be totally fine with that. Really, once they can remove the notch - likely 2020, I don't think they would need to change much to the design at all moving forward. It's a thin rectangular piece of glass, I don't know what else people would be looking for. Software and silicon will be the only real difference makers in the future and Apple still has a leg up in some key areas - performance, security, privacy, ecosystem, apps/developers, and support. As long as they keep improving in these areas, people will buy iPhone's. People are just holding onto their devices longer so you won't see crazy growth like we used to. Apple has moved to not reporting unit sales like the rest of the industry, only revenue, so the "Apple is doomed" people may need to look at another metric.
 
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Who said anything about changing things for the sake of it? The wider point is they need to implement new ideas if they want 40% profit margin.
Touch ID was massive without changing the physical look. Face ID works fine for me but I never had a problem with Touch ID in the first place
All I am implying is that the competition is racing ahead and a company like Apple with $150 billion in cash needs to be more nimble and not drag their feet in the name of conservatism.

Slow and steady wins the race instead of lets burn everything like Stephen Elop did with Nokia. You say the same design may not work but literally this is the second gen that has it and the first gen for the XR. What type of design would you have them do? Since you know alot better than a mega corp that has most likely been around longer than your existence.
 
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Oh okay, well iOS has both if you ever decide to go that route.
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How so?
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I do, I use the Files app to access my personal files, files accessed via my server, and Documents for any cloud services I hook into. It's not all that complicated.
You can't use an SD Card with iOS and transfer files between your phone and card, you aren't also able to download media in Safari and store it in your iPhone.
 
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It's the same picture but zoomed in three different ways.

Not a fan of the hole if it turns out to be true or even fuglier wide notch.
 
Same old, same old. This isn't going to sell any better than the S9. It's all about software and silicon, I couldn't care less about phone design as we are all moving towards an all-screen rectangular piece of glass.

Obviously you miss a lot of nuance with a comment like that but you're right in that Apple has a huge lead in silicon, I just wish they remembered how to make great software.
 
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Google Android development closely work with Samsung hardware implementation. Samsung get to implement many of the future Android feature in their flagships first with their UI overlay. So, what other OEMs adopts later all basically Samsung-Google collaboration. That's the reason most of the Samsung flagships do not require OS upgrades since their Overlay pretty much implements most of the good stuffs in the new Android version.

Samsung curved screen gets adopted, punch-hole screen is not Notch but it has its own drawback. Industry leading AMOLED display pioneered by none other than Samsung. Their UFS is being adopted by flagships from other OEMs, their indisplay finger print reader uses different tech than most of the Chinese OEMs using it. Their Samsung Pay is a real neat, innovative NFC payment solution than Apple Pay.
I wouldn’t say it’s a Samsung - google collaboration. Many of the software features that end up in stock android years later are Samsung’s own features. Outside of the US there is little difference between Samsung pay, Apple Pay and google pay. They all work in the same places.
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It's the same picture but zoomed in three different ways.

Not a fan of hole or even fuglier wide notch.
The hole punch is better imo. It’s less intrusive. It's small and sits in the corner. I understand that Apple need the notch for Face ID which I like but I don’t think there was anything wrong with Touch ID. I’m glad Samsung and some of the other android OEMs are moving forward with the FPS.
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You can't use an SD Card with iOS and transfer files between your phone and card, you aren't also able to download media in Safari and store it in your iPhone.
Well you kind of can if you’re willing to use iCloud Drive. It’s not as comprehensive as a proper file system but as someone who has a Mac, a few iPads and my iPhone I find it quite useful.
 
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Back looks neat.
a good design without any doubt.
I really hate the lumpy camera in recent iPhones,but let’s really hope the recent picture from next iPhone is fake because its so bad that it’s humiliating.
But the S10 also has a camera bump, so it's not just Apple being either obsessed with general phone thinness (as much as some might think that only nefarious motivations can explain things they disagree with) that resorts to this design method.
 
Android as a whole has gotten better. The biggest problem is the lack of software updates. The standard $1,000 Android phone in the US still does not have the latest Android Pie due to restrictions from mobile carriers. You should never let a mobile carrier tell you when to upgrade your software. Ever.
It will eventually be updated to pie and and then whatever android Q is called. It’s all about waiting.
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Apple has three. We must have three.

I’ll leave this here.

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There's actually going to be 4 phones released...
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Also, if these come out at Apple prices, I wonder what will be said. There were rumors a while back the highest end S10 that will be available will fetch a cool $1,400 that gives you 5G and 800 GB or 1 TB of flash memory, plus 12 GB of RAM, IIRC.
There's 4 versions of the S10 and only the one with 5G is going to be in the same price range as the xs max. The other 3 are cheaper. I think for all that is reported to be in that variant the asking price is fair.
 
I have not used Android in a few years, has it gotten better? I wonder how these phones would do running iOS (if it were possible of course)

You get more freedom with Android and it's closer to a desktop OS with server OS stability. Drawback is if you're not somewhat tech savvy it can be overwhelming with too much freedom and versability.

iOS is more locked down and limited. More popular with people who don't know about or need VP9 codec for YouTube/Twitch/etc., desktop mode, mouse support, file manager, SD card storage expansion, foreground split screen multitasking, background multitasking, command-line shell, changing default apps, placing icons anywhere on home screen, swiping away calls, etc. Benefit of iOS simpler stripped down UI is swiping the home screen of static icons is a hair smoother.

Using both ecosystems with Android as primary but may switch to iOS as primary when I retire and only need an iPod with some calling capability.
 
You get more freedom with Android and it's closer to a desktop OS with server OS stability. Drawback is if you're not somewhat tech savvy it can be overwhelming with too much freedom and versability.

iOS is more locked down and limited. More popular with people who don't know about or need VP9 codec for YouTube/Twitch/etc., desktop mode, mouse support, file manager, SD card storage expansion, foreground split screen multitasking, background multitasking, command-line shell, changing default apps, placing icons anywhere on home screen, swiping away calls, etc. Benefit of iOS simpler stripped down UI is swiping the home screen of static icons is a hair smoother.

Using both ecosystems with Android as primary but may switch to iOS as primary when I retire and only need an iPod with some calling capability.

Honestly, can I ask why you think Android phone brands don't advertise 99% of the stuff you mentioned and, if those things are such game changers and big "omgz my phone can do this and your's cant" features that would make an Android user want to knock Apple, why they're not focused on in commercials, store displays, etc etc? An honest question as I always see Android users crapping all over Apple about stuff like this, but yet, I never see Samsung, Google, LG, etc showing off these things. It's always about the display, the camera, the battery..ya know, the things MOST people care about I dunno, I've never seen commercials or a display in Best Buy showing off command-line shell.

As someone who's used an iPhone since the first one, if I never owned the few Android tablets I've had over the years, I'd never know about expandable storage, themes, icon/default app changing, etc based on what I've seen on TV or in stores.

It seems that the "techy" Android users on the internet have forgotten the amount of Android phones there are out there that cater to the same users they make fun of that own iPhones. Instead of making fun of them, maybe they should try to advertise the features that mean something and try to get their business.
 
I just wish they remembered how to make great software.

This is a major misconception. Apple still makes ‘great software’, respectively for the iPhone. They’re consistent in terms of how they have always been with their structure in iOS, aside from software issues that need to be rectified, there is a reason why Apple has such a loyal fan base, because iOS is so simplistic, even though others think it’s ‘boring’, it just simply works with a clean interface that doesn’t need useless filler that Android includes. My loyalty personally doesn’t rely on Apple’s hardware, which has always been good and so is the competition hardware, my loyalty lies with Apple‘s iOS consistency and security. I would say that’s also a major contributor to a lot of other Apple users as well.
 
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