Leaked Image Shows Three Models in Samsung Galaxy S10 Line-up

[[AUT] Thomas]

Yes competition in Android land is a good thing though Samsung might not agree.

IIRC Samsung isn't a big fan of Android or google. They tried pushing their own OS, but it had so many security flaws that even Samsung figured it would require a rewrite from scratch to be actually acceptable.

I still hope Sailfish gets more support... https://sailfishos.org/ Projects like this is exactly why google should have been sued for pricedumping an OS into the market and eliminating "better but not free" competition.

 

[Shanghaichica]

IIRC Samsung isn't a big fan of Android or google. They tried pushing their own OS, but it had so many security flaws that even Samsung figured it would require a rewrite from scratch to be actually acceptable.

I still hope Sailfish gets more support... https://sailfishos.org/ Projects like this is exactly why google should have been sued for pricedumping an OS into the market and eliminating "better but not free" competition.

Tizen is still alive and well on the galaxy smart watches.

 

[0388631]

There's 4 versions of the S10 and only the one with 5G is going to be in the same price range as the xs max. The other 3 are cheaper. I think for all that is reported to be in that variant the asking price is fair.

I read a report that the Lite model will be priced at $700 USD starting, which is fair because it's more or less the same phone; there isn't any Apple tricks at play. It's also rumored to come with a flat screen over a curved edge one.

I may skip this generation simply because of the new tech and being wary of it. I think it's safe to say the rumor mill for Samsung's is worse than Apple's.

 

[DNichter]

You can't use an SD Card with iOS and transfer files between your phone and card, you aren't also able to download media in Safari and store it in your iPhone.

There are iOS SD Card readers. Amazon has a ton. Hubs for the new iPad Pro also. Documents has a browser with a built in download manager if I ever need it. I just download things directly to my server through my QNAP app primarily though.
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Obviously you miss a lot of nuance with a comment like that but you're right in that Apple has a huge lead in silicon, I just wish they remembered how to make great software.

I’ve been generally pretty happy with iOS 12 and Apple’s built in apps. No issues to speak of, so I don’t agree, but I only use iOS so that may play into it. Software should improve though. I honestly would rather them focus less on yearly releases for hardware and more on perfecting their software and adding new features.

 

[canadianreader]

In display touch id is the way to go

 

[1050792]

There are iOS SD Card readers. Amazon has a ton. Hubs for the new iPad Pro also. Documents has a browser with a built in download manager if I ever need it. I just download things directly to my server through my QNAP app primarily though.
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I’ve been generally pretty happy with iOS 12 and Apple’s built in apps. No issues to speak of, so I don’t agree, but I only use iOS so that may play into it. Software should improve though. I honestly would rather them focus less on yearly releases for hardware and more on perfecting their software and adding new features.

That requires a lot of 3rd party alternatives and it's not native and that's my point.

 

[reybart]

Phones are getting uglier!

 

[mi7chy]

IIRC Samsung isn't a big fan of Android or google.

Really? Tizen was intended for budget devices in emerging markets but Android Go has filled that gap without incurring the expense of developing and maintaining an OS in-house.

https://www.samsungmobilepress.com/resources/galaxy_j4_core/

https://www.samsungmobilepress.com/resources/galaxy_j2_core/

https://www.android.com/versions/go-edition/

 

[indychris]

a huge, weird, square lump at one side on the phone isn't worse than a neatly designed central 3 lens camera with slight protrude to you?

Now let’s be fair. This is what you originally said:

Back looks neat. a good design without any doubt. I really hate the lumpy camera in recent iPhones,

Two things worth noting. First, you never said anything about the LOCATION of the “bump”, so if that is your criteria, then it is a new one. Secondly, your complaint was that you “hate” the “lumpy camera” in the later iPhones, yet the new Samsung appears to have a very similar, prominent lump yet you say that the “back looks neat”.

Based on that, I would have to conclude that, 1) You totally moved the goalposts so that you could question my statement, and 2) your reasons for liking the Samsung and disliking the iPhone are quite inconsistent.

If you like Samsung better, then just say so and be done with it, but don’t put words in my mouth and change the discussion in order to attempt to preserve your point.

 

[racerhomie]

Obviously, these are popular and sell in droves.

But high-end flagship sales are slowing down, so they are gradually becoming reference designs for the Galaxy A series in 1-2 years (plus certain other manufacturers who rely on Samsung screens).

- hole punch camera
- multiple rear cameras
- in-display fingerprint (hope they nail it)

All of these are already on other phones, and the pace of "innovation" is changing.

The Folding Phone will be a fascinating starting point, not a truly great complete device.

Lol Sells in droves. Samsung’s ASP is $200

 

[ImAnAgent]

Although I seriously love the S series and Note lines, I may very well skip this years phones. I usually buy the unlocked S series phone and then the carrier version Note.

I haven't skipped a year since the Note 7 and I think it's that year again this year. I still have my Note 8 and Note 9 and unlocked S9+ and I'm not even using them on any lines.

I posted on another forum, all the phones that I still have and it's a very long list. I have a phone addiction.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Lol Sells in droves. Samsung’s ASP is $200

40 million units is nothing to be sniffed at.

 

[ROGmaster]

Android as a whole has gotten better. The biggest problem is the lack of software updates. The standard $1,000 Android phone in the US still does not have the latest Android Pie due to restrictions from mobile carriers. You should never let a mobile carrier tell you when to upgrade your software. Ever.

OK so you are talking about the Note 9 and try to generalize to the entire Android market.
Also the simple fact is: What does Android 9 bring to the table for a Note 9?
The way I see it Note 9 is already ahead in multiple ways in comparison to Android 9 from a software perspective.
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Ah, okay. I have a few of those on my iPhone's and iPad's.

No you don't. You only have apps that try to act like file managers and all they allow you to do is manage the files that are specifically associated with them.
File managers on Android actually allow users to manage the files and media on their phones. If I change the name or location of a file with a file manager app any other file manager on Android will universally pick up that change.
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It's not user error, it's user choice. I don't like to use Cloud services so a true file system with SD Card support is very important to me.

It is the only option actually so it's a limitation.
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I do, I use the Files app to access my personal files, files accessed via my server, and Documents for any cloud services I hook into. It's not all that complicated.

The File app on iOS is just a hub for your cloud accounts it doesn't allow you to actually manage the files physically found on your phone's storage while file managers on Android do offer this essential functionality.

 

[DNichter]

That requires a lot of 3rd party alternatives and it's not native and that's my point.

So what if it’s not native? You don’t use 3rd party software from any developers? Your point was that it couldn’t be done, which is completely wrong.
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OK so you are talking about the Note 9 and try to generalize to the entire Android market.
Also the simple fact is: What does Android 9 bring to the table for a Note 9?
The way I see it Note 9 is already ahead in multiple ways in comparison to Android 9 from a software perspective.
[doublepost=1548147500][/doublepost]

No you don't. You only have apps that try to act like file managers and all they allow you to do is manage the files that are specifically associated with them.
File managers on Android actually allow users to manage the files and media on their phones. If I change the name or location of a file with a file manager app any other file manager on Android will universally pick up that change.
[doublepost=1548147797][/doublepost]
It is the only option actually so it's a limitation.
[doublepost=1548148291][/doublepost]
The File app on iOS is just a hub for your cloud accounts it doesn't allow you to actually manage the files physically found on your phone's storage while file managers on Android do offer this essential functionality.

The Files app connects to my QNAP server where I manage my files. Why would I care where my files live (cloud, phone, server, otherwise) as long as I can access them when I need them? Seems like a stretch of an argument for people on this site.

 

[Shanghaichica]

OK so you are talking about the Note 9 and try to generalize to the entire Android market.
Also the simple fact is: What does Android 9 bring to the table for a Note 9?
The way I see it Note 9 is already ahead in multiple ways in comparison to Android 9 from a software perspective.
[doublepost=1548147500][/doublepost]

No you don't. You only have apps that try to act like file managers and all they allow you to do is manage the files that are specifically associated with them.
File managers on Android actually allow users to manage the files and media on their phones. If I change the name or location of a file with a file manager app any other file manager on Android will universally pick up that change.
[doublepost=1548147797][/doublepost]
It is the only option actually so it's a limitation.
[doublepost=1548148291][/doublepost]
The File app on iOS is just a hub for your cloud accounts it doesn't allow you to actually manage the files physically found on your phone's storage while file managers on Android do offer this essential functionality.

That’s a good point. The reason I’ve never been too bothered about how long updates take to come to Samsung phones is because they offer very little. Samsung phones are usually years ahead in terms of software features. Security updates come regularly enough.

 

[ROGmaster]

The Files app connects to my QNAP server where I manage my files.

Again you can't manage the files physically found on your phone's storage.
That's what file managers on desktop OSs(like Windows, MacOS, Linux) allow users to do and that's what file manager on Android allow users to do.

Why would I care where my files live (cloud, phone, server, otherwise) as long as I can access them when I need them? Seems like a stretch of an argument for people on this site.

Well you can't access them if you don't have an internet connection.
You can't manage the files physically found on your phone's storage.
This is what others have been telling you and what you insist on ignoring.
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That’s a good point. The reason I’ve never been too bothered about how long updates take to come to Samsung phones is because they offer very little. Samsung phones are usually years ahead in terms of software features. Security updates come regularly enough.

The highlights of Samsung's Android 9 update are the changes Samsung did to their skin.
AOSP Android 9 doesn't bring anything to the table for an Note 9.

 

[Farleigh]

I have not used Android in a few years, has it gotten better? I wonder how these phones would do running iOS (if it were possible of course)

I left ios for android.. I can say I'm please with android so far..

 

[1050792]

So what if it’s not native? You don’t use 3rd party software from any developers? Your point was that it couldn’t be done, which is completely wrong.
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The Files app connects to my QNAP server where I manage my files. Why would I care where my files live (cloud, phone, server, otherwise) as long as I can access them when I need them? Seems like a stretch of an argument for people on this site.

Requiring third party hardware when it's available on cheaper phones, that's thepoint. I'm also not gonna keep beating this up since it's not gonna turn anywhere, you defend iOS with all your guts when everyone knows iOS doesn't have a decent file system not even close to Android which you know as well it works just like a PC. Use whatever makes you happy but don't come up with excuses saying that iOS has a proper file system and native support for stuff which requires third party adapters and software and even so iOS is so locked down you can't do half of the things you can do with an Android file system.

 

[racerhomie]

40 million units is nothing to be sniffed at.

Like I said$200 asp . It should be scoffed at.
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You can't use an SD Card with iOS and transfer files between your phone and card, you aren't also able to download media in Safari and store it in your iPhone.

There are lightning drives you can use on iOS. Internal storage is not so little like on most Android devices.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Like I said$200 asp . It should be scoffed at.
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There are lightning drives you can use on iOS. Internal storage is not so little like on most Android devices.

But those 40 million units are phones which cost more than $800. So again not to be scoffed at.
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Like I said$200 asp . It should be scoffed at.
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There are lightning drives you can use on iOS. Internal storage is not so little like on most Android devices.

Only the cheaper android phones have limited internal storage. Most of the flagship android phones start at 64GB and can also be had in 128GB and 256GB and in the case of the note 9 512GB. Even with 512GB you still have to option of adding an SD card.

 

[edgonzalez32]

Yup, the X was a big design change. Definitely welcomed by me as I was very tired of the bezels and home button. I am not sure what that has to do with Samsung and their design though.

Your previous post is implying that Samsung's design isn't changing.

 

[avatar77]

Samsung makes the best Android hardware with some of the worst Android software (though they have apparently reworked it for the S10 but I'm dubious). But, the only aspect of the Galaxy S10 that intrigues me is the performance of the rumored ultrasonic fingerprint sensor, a big upgrade in both speed and security over the optical sensors used in various Chinese brands like Vivo, Oppo, and OnePlus.

 

[jackietreeh0rn]

Back looks neat.
a good design without any doubt.
I really hate the lumpy camera in recent iPhones,but let’s really hope the recent picture from next iPhone is fake because its so bad that it’s humiliating.

LOL, this looks like an ugly eye patch.

 

[DNichter]

Your previous post is implying that Samsung's design isn't changing.

Yea I understand my post, that's what the article is about. I am not sure what you pointing out that the front of the iPhone hadn't changed much prior to the X had to do with what I said.
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Requiring third party hardware when it's available on cheaper phones, that's thepoint. I'm also not gonna keep beating this up since it's not gonna turn anywhere, you defend iOS with all your guts when everyone knows iOS doesn't have a decent file system not even close to Android which you know as well it works just like a PC. Use whatever makes you happy but don't come up with excuses saying that iOS has a proper file system and native support for stuff which requires third party adapters and software and even so iOS is so locked down you can't do half of the things you can do with an Android file system.

I guess I don't see downloading an app as such a nuisance, but whatever you prefer. This notion of a file system is just kind of silly to me. It gets rehashed over and over, but you just need a way to access your files - which iOS does without issue. Yup, Android is more like a typical PC, and that includes all of the legacy problems that come with it. The only point is you said it can't be done, but it can and it's not all that difficult. Any somewhat proficient tech person can figure it out.
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Again you can't manage the files physically found on your phone's storage.
That's what file managers on desktop OSs(like Windows, MacOS, Linux) allow users to do and that's what file manager on Android allow users to do.


Well you can't access them if you don't have an internet connection.
You can't manage the files physically found on your phone's storage.
This is what others have been telling you and what you insist on ignoring.
[doublepost=1548155083][/doublepost]

The highlights of Samsung's Android 9 update are the changes Samsung did to their skin.
AOSP Android 9 doesn't bring anything to the table for an Note 9.

I guess I never needed to. I prefer the OS to manage all that stuff for me. When I need a file, it's there.

 

[ROGmaster]

There are lightning drives you can use on iOS. Internal storage is not so little like on most Android devices.

LoL Yeah right. You can buy Android phones with 64Gb storage for as little as 180$.
https://www.amazon.com/Xiaomi-MI-A1-Unlocked-Warranty/dp/B076MBXX2R
You have to look at the low end range to find Android phones with 32Gb storage or less.
And all this while excluding micro SD cards which is quite significant taking in consideration that most cheaper Android phones do have such a slot.
I recently recommended for a 65 year old neighbor of mine buying a Redmi 5A, it was 100 euros new and it had 32Gb storage.
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Yup, Android is more like a typical PC, and that includes all of the legacy problems that come with it.

LoL what legacy problems? I bet you don't even know what you are taking about.
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I guess I never needed to. I prefer the OS to manage all that stuff for me. When I need a file, it's there.

Didin't need what? A feature you never had in the first place?