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I don't think that's what the roadmap says. Intel will be targeting whatever Mx chip that is in the MBP14 in 2023, not the M1 Pro/Max.
You can set as many targets as you one, actually producing something real and not make believe is another. I can make a document stating whatever I want especially if its 2-3 years out.
 
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2 years from now... and knowing Intel they will took 4-6 years.
 
“Apple silicon chip and A15 chip in the iPhone 15.” This is confusing. Apple is using A15 in the iPhone 13, presumably that would mean A17 in the iPhone 15? Or is Intel thinking the rest of the world stops so Intel can catch up?

If Intel can do it, good for everyone. Their past promises haven’t worked out so well
 
I'll believe it when I see it. Roadmaps are hot garbage until the product actually happens, because the roadmap might not prove possible...
 
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Ever since 2020 both companies have been marking massive improvements, Intel started with their Integrated Graphics and then Apple with their transition... I feel like if I buy a laptop now it'll be outdated in 2 years.

And, intel's new administration seems to be doing well, they went from having 10%-15% performance leaps in-between generations to 30-40% which is great! Windows Laptops are becoming more tempting and it'll really challenge apple to kick into a higher gear. Excited to see innovations from both sides in the coming months/years.
 
How reliable is intel in following their own roadmap? From their track record, not that great. In fact, there are still plenty of laptops for sale today using 10th gen chips, with 11th gen chips reserved for premium and ultra premium models. In short, whatever intel's promises are, the typical consumer is not enjoying any of it. I'm still seeing $1000 Windows laptops with only an i5 and 8GB of RAM.

More interested in looking at AMD's roadmap than intel's.
 
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Ever since 2020 both companies have been marking massive improvements, Intel started with their Integrated Graphics and then Apple with their transition... I feel like if I buy a laptop now it'll be outdated in 2 years.

And, intel's new administration seems to be doing well, they went from having 10%-15% performance leaps in-between generations to 30-40% which is great! Windows Laptops are becoming more tempting and it'll really challenge apple to kick into a higher gear. Excited to see innovations from both sides in the coming months/years.
What makes Windows laptops interesting again is AMD, which is giving intel a run for its money in performance. To get a proper intel machine that can kinda match Apple Silicon, ie. at least 12th gen i7 or higher, you need to spend well above $1200-$1500+ for the ultra premium models. They are as expensive as Macbooks, while still having inferior thermals.
 
The problem is Intel can't do it alone. Even if they match Apple's chips, they need Microsoft and the hardware manufacturers to optimize against it, which they are unlikely to do as efficiently as Apple can do with Apple Silicon. Just look at the improvements Apple are doing with battery life on iPhone. I think we have only scratched the surface of what Apple can do when they own the complete stack on the Mac. Like iPhone vs Android, I predict we will gradually lose interest in benchmark numbers, and focus on how the complete system actually works. I don't care if my computer is 10% faster or slower, as long as it feels nice to use. I'm sure gamers see it differently, but Apple won't lose any customers due to gaming performance, since they don't have any gamers to lose.

Intel probably needs to not just match, but outpace Apple Silicon by 20-30% (efficiency wise) to account for the lack of optimization.
 
I’ll believe it when I see it. I still remember how horrible the Atom chips were. I evaluated them for embedded computers for my job at the time and, when I saw how much heat they put out for something intended for mobile devices, I knew right away that Intel would never be a big name in mobile.

The other question is, if it’s laptop first, (knowing Intel’s laptop chips and their relative lack of performance) is it even possible for Intel to compete with Apple for performance and efficiency simultaneously? Part of the genius of the M-series of chips is how powerful it is (at the same clock speed, it probably outcompetes both Intel’s i9 offering and AMD’s current Ryzen offering) and, on top of that, having leading edge efficiency while doing so. Can Intel even walk and talk at the same time? Experience suggests otherwise, but we’ll see.
 
Great. Love competition. I hope AMD and Intel kicks Apple's ass. Then I hope Apple responds and kicks their ass again. Then I hope AMD and Intel get even more pissed off and kicks Apple's ass again. Then I hope AMD and Intel gets so angry they make the best products of all time. Then I hope App- ok I' done.
 
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