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So it's a political statement that Obama has to clean up after Bush?
Or that Bush wanted universal health care for the rebuilt Iraq but not the US?
Or that Americans are marching AGAINST a universal health but not happy to burn billion$ on invasions and unwindable wars?

This isn't the place for this. Thanks.
 
something is telling me we are going to see a camera very soon....:D:D:D:D;)

isn't best buy accepting pre-orders for camera protection cases for the ipod touch 3G on Oct 14th!;)

They won't release it too soon or else they will have tons of pissed off customers. They also won't wait until next year because that is just too long. I'll bet anything they will refresh it in January after the holidays!
 
So it's a political statement that Obama has to clean up after Bush?
Or that Bush wanted universal health care for the rebuilt Iraq but not the US?
Or that Americans are marching AGAINST a universal health but not happy to burn billion$ on invasions and unwindable wars?

What is an UNWINDABLE war? Is that some sort of fancy time phrase I haven't heard of yet.
 
Seventh; I bet every man & woman here, that is whinning so pathetically voted for Obama. He like the whinners here, are all part of the blame business for my pesonal misfortune culture.

If you guys could only hear yourselves.



Dave

It's just an iPod, man. No need to make this a political debate.

although I like that you call people who voted for Obama "whinners". I know you meant "whiners" but it's true, we are all winners. ;)
 
No offense but it sounds like you know nothing about marketing.

Apple doesn't market. They spend lots of money creating and protecting their image, and then all of their fanboys buy the stuff without a second thought just because it's Apple.
 
Cant wait to see all the filth uploaded to the net now that every braindead co-ed with a Nano can take slutty vids :):p:):p

YESSSSSS, I didn't even think about that. score

BTW, I dont agree with anything that the AI people said. Why would Apple add a camera and make it a silent update ?? Why would they add the compass video and all the other stuff a few months after the ipod media event.
 
Steve Jobs has previously been quotes as saying the camera was not included to cut the price of the ipod touch as it is commonly seen as gaming device. Therefore that the reason. Old news! OCD anyone?

He's a liar (Jobs). The Nintendo DSI IS a gaming machine and it has a camera.

So I'm going to laugh when they release an ad touting the marvels of 'a gaming machine and a camera machine in one! (*ping*)' for the Touch, when it was already done by someone else. Just like in their latest iPhone SG3 doing telling you you're able to now do things that other phones have done for years now. But because it's from Apple, it's all of a suddenly revolutionary. :rolleyes: Typical Kool-Aid drinking Apple expects.
 
He's a liar (Jobs). The Nintendo DSI IS a gaming machine and it has a camera.

So I'm going to laugh when they release an ad touting the marvels of 'a gaming machine and a camera machine in one! (*ping*)' for the Touch, when it was already done by someone else. Just like in their latest iPhone SG3 doing telling you you're able to now do things that other phones have done for years now. But because it's from Apple, it's all of a suddenly revolutionary. :rolleyes: Typical Kool-Aid drinking Apple expects.

It was pretty cute when Sir Stevey said something to the affect of:
"Why is the iPod touch a better gaming device? Because it has multitouch, the app store and iPod built in"

Okay Steve, but how does an app store and an iPod make it better at GAMING?
 
It's not entirely clear why the camera was dropped from the iPod Touch, though

Given Steve's attitude about leaked previews, he probably dropped it just to make the rumor false. I still wonder if that's why ZFS was dropped. I remember how ticked he got when that guy from Sun leaked the information first. Steve is one of the most arrogant and stubborn people on the planet. He strikes me as one of those people who takes credit for other people's ideas for some odd reason.
 
they will put them in the new 16gb's that will come out soon... the 32 and 64gb had too much space takin up to fit a cam perhaps?
 
I think it's time to drop this whole camera thing. It didn't happen, it's not the end of the world, there are dozens of devices out there with a camera if you really do need one. Let's face it, the iPod touch wasn't going to be the pinnacle of photography.

This argument is really getting old.. We all know that there are better camera's than the ones found in the iPhone or any other camera for that matter. No one has the aspirations to become a professional photographer with a new iPod Touch with a camera.

There are many people that find such a camera very useful. Ever heard of convergence or of the convenience of not carrying around two but one device?
 
Fourth; the perception that Apple is screwing us is simply ridiculous. This sort of screw up is expensive and often leads to heavily strained relations with suppliers.

I wonder if we will hear anything from the case manufacturers. They must have received a memorandum from Apple regarding the Touch. I can't imagine that they are as much in the dark as the customers..

Sixth; it looks to me like everybody on this forum is already primed to complain about the Touches camera when it does arrive.

True, just look at Engadget. If Apple would introduce a new iPhone with specs like the Pixie it would be third world war.


Seventh; I bet every man & woman here, that is whinning so pathetically voted for Obama. He like the whinners here, are all part of the blame business for my pesonal misfortune culture.

Too bad. Some of your points actually made sense. We are not all from the US, so couldn't all have voted for Obama, and even if we would have that doesn't make it relevant to this discussion. A stupid way to get your points across if you ask me.
 
Apple doesn't market. They spend lots of money creating and protecting their image, and then all of their fanboys buy the stuff without a second thought just because it's Apple.

Funniest post ever. So everyone who went out and bought an iPod was a "fanboy", even though the vast majority of them had never used a Mac? I think you'll find quite a few of them were new to Apple!

Even those of us who were Apple fanboys questioned the sanity of our beloved computer company bringing out an MP3 player, but Apple proved us wrong. Through a good user experience and some very clever marketing we saw it rise to the top of the pile.
 
Perhaps we will see it updated before Christmas? Like sometime in November to pad their Holiday sales. Your not going to update it at Macworld because that show belongs to the Tablet.
 
Here's my take:
Apple was going to release it with a camera but decided not for one of the following reasons:
- production problem prevented Apple from getting enough sensors
- HD sensors are coming down in price, but not down enough. Apple's waiting to add HD video recording in the iPod touch, and new iPhone (3GSV?)
 
Here's my take:
Apple was going to release it with a camera but decided not for one of the following reasons:
- production problem prevented Apple from getting enough sensors
- HD sensors are coming down in price, but not down enough. Apple's waiting to add HD video recording in the iPod touch, and new iPhone (3GSV?)

the 3GS can already do 720p recording. it was discovered when it was first torn apart after release. Apple just crippled the hardware with the iphone OS.
 
now I want to take this touch apart even more to see exactly what the camera looks like.
 
This argument is really getting old.. We all know that there are better camera's than the ones found in the iPhone or any other camera for that matter. No one has the aspirations to become a professional photographer with a new iPod Touch with a camera.

There are many people that find such a camera very useful. Ever heard of convergence or of the convenience of not carrying around two but one device?

A forward facing camera would be nice for video calls.... It amazes me how basic the idea of a video call is even in old Sci-Fi shows, yet it's virtually non-existent today or the frame rates are so slow across the Net that it might as well be, but the iPhone and iPod Touch could make that a common thing pretty quickly with iChat built-in, but forget about it. It's now a gaming device so forget about non-gaming features. Although even there, it sucks because I find most games don't play all that well without dedicated controls. For example, trying to tap a glass screen to make flippers flip on Pinball Dreams is pretty shoddy at best and in vertical mode, your fingers are covering the screen where you're playing half the time. If they're going to go with the "gaming device" theme, they could at least offer the new versions with a dedicated game pad and buttons so it's easier to control for games that don't lend themselves well to screen tapping.
 
They for sure need to add a camera to the ipod touch but what is with the ipod nano shooting video. Is that necessary? Probably not but a nice addition
 
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