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The second prices you listed is what we pay in Canada :p.
Probably because of our dollar.
And, I thought the Touch only had a mic in the headphones, but I may be wrong.
 
Seeing all the rumours before of the iPhone getting dual cameras, namely a new camera on the screen side for video chat, I think it's likely that this feature will be coming in the fourth gen iPhone and will be using the iPod Nano's camera. There is no need for the thicker or higher quality 3MP autofocus camera since the Nano's camera seems decent enough for video chat and the thinner size will allow integration without taking up too much space. The faster processor on the iPhone could also be used for motion compensation and other enhancements to improve the image.

I think that's very probable.

And no, the touch doesn't have an internal mic. Only line-in support.
 
Apple knows well enough that Nano will become a niche product, and it will eventually be replaced by ipod touch or iphone. They see it coming and they are trying to slow this trend down by adding a camera exclusively for the nano to keep its sales up. Who's to buy this year's nano if touch gets a camera also? I, for one, will go for the touch w/ a camera hands down, giving that i had last years nano. But do Apple really want you to buy their ipod touch? Or they'd rather you just get an iphone instead? Not to mention the rumored upcoming 6inch enhanced featured ipod touch/reader thing, how will apple market this tablet toy if everyone got a touch which will run on the same os and will handle 99% of its tasks and costs 300-500 cheaper? Most likely a camera on touch will not happen before the tablet.
 
I don't get the confusion. It was right here on the home page a few weeks ago that Apple was rumored to be having trouble with the Camera module on the touch and that they had to pull back thousands of units. Has everyone forgotten that story? I haven't seen anyone mention it. So, duh. They yanked the camera and lowered the price and said they are focusing on it as a gaming machine. It might actually be a decent idea to get some added difference between the product line, but I'm guessing they'll add a camera with a slightly higher price than the previous model. Once cheaper, one higher.
 
Hmm, I wonder why Apple decided to not include the camera?

This is very interesting indeed.

Because either

1) Apple decided that it would eat into iPhone sales (marketing decision). If that is the case, you have to wait till Microsoft puts a camera in the Zune before you will see one in the iPod Touch

or

2) The camera from the iPhone will not fit in the iPod Touch (fact) so the only camera Apple could fit in would be the poor video camera from the nano.

Apple made the decision not to put a camera in the iPod Touch.
 
I don't get the confusion. It was right here on the home page a few weeks ago that Apple was rumored to be having trouble with the Camera module on the touch and that they had to pull back thousands of units. Has everyone forgotten that story? I haven't seen anyone mention it. So, duh. They yanked the camera and lowered the price and said they are focusing on it as a gaming machine. It might actually be a decent idea to get some added difference between the product line, but I'm guessing they'll add a camera with a slightly higher price than the previous model. Once cheaper, one higher.

It takes more then a few weeks to remove the camera (new enclosure, tooling, etc) in a production environment and produce / ship the quantity of iPod Touch for release last week.

The camera is not in the iPod Touch because Apple decided not to add a video camera to it.
 
Whatever reason, Apple chose not to put a camera in the final version of this generation iPod Touch. I really hope it was a manufacturing issue and not a marketing one. A manufacturing issue can be overcome and means it will be coming. If it was a marketing one... well we know how stubborn Apple is with changing those...

It made it an easy decision for me to pass on this generation as that was a feature I was looking for from the iPhone 3Gs to be included.

I have an iPhone 3G and am not eligible for a inexpensive upgrade yet. A Touch with the video capabilities would have allowed me to play/develop with until I could upgrade. Then I would have just passed it on to my family when I do upgrade my iPhone.
 
It takes more then a few weeks to remove the camera (new enclosure, tooling, etc) in a production environment and produce / ship the quantity of iPod Touch for release last week.

The camera is not in the iPod Touch because Apple decided not to add a video camera to it.

That's just when the rumor came about. Who knows when the event and decision actually occured. Could've been 3 months ago. But the bottom line rumor was that there was a problem with the camera and that it might delay the touch. Instead, clearly, they just scrapped the camera from the design at the last minute and marketed it differently.
 
Because either

1) Apple decided that it would eat into iPhone sales (marketing decision). If that is the case, you have to wait till Microsoft puts a camera in the Zune before you will see one in the iPod Touch

or

2) The camera from the iPhone will not fit in the iPod Touch (fact) so the only camera Apple could fit in would be the poor video camera from the nano.

Apple made the decision not to put a camera in the iPod Touch.

Now I'm starting to feel that they wanted to increase sales of Nanos by withholding the camera from the touch? :confused:

The Nano is going to sell very well this season. It will be interesting to see how the new Zune fairs this time around.
 
Now I'm starting to feel that they wanted to increase sales of Nanos by withholding the camera from the touch? :confused:

The Nano is going to sell very well this season. It will be interesting to see how the new Zune fairs this time around.

i don't think it will be interesting at all. i am pretty sure the same thing will happen, the iPod will outsell the zune.
 
No offence taken, but Jobs whould have known that withing an hour of release someone would disect the iPods and post pics and all across the internet bepole will be having these discussions.

It just makes him look a little silly.

Why? Us tech nerds are in the extreme minority when it comes to Apples customer base, something alot of you always seem to forget here.
 
Now I'm starting to feel that they wanted to increase sales of Nanos by withholding the camera from the touch?

That doesn't make sense though. The touch is more expensive than the nano, which means more money for Apple. It doesn't matter where the money comes from. The only reason why it would matter is if Apple had a higher profit margin on the nano, which I'm not sure if they do.
 
That's just when the rumor came about. Who knows when the event and decision actually occured. Could've been 3 months ago. But the bottom line rumor was that there was a problem with the camera and that it might delay the touch. Instead, clearly, they just scrapped the camera from the design at the last minute and marketed it differently.

Steve Jobs returned and didn't like the idea of the video camera in the iPod touch.
 
It was probably that 'technical' problem they had, or something of that sort that forced them to remove the cameras.
 
My guess…

my bet is they had the same camera in the touch as the nano and Steve came back and ripped someone a new one for it. Why! because that camera would look so pathetic compared to the iPhones there would be more complaining then there is now about the lack of a camera.

My guess… touch with the iPhones camera in January!
 
Seventh; I bet every man & woman here, that is whinning so pathetically voted for Obama. He like the whinners here, are all part of the blame business for my pesonal misfortune culture.
Dave

So it's a political statement that Obama has to clean up after Bush?
Or that Bush wanted universal health care for the rebuilt Iraq but not the US?
Or that Americans are marching AGAINST a universal health but not happy to burn billion$ on invasions and unwinnable wars?
 
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