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You see I still don't go along with most peoples thoughts here that Apple planned the size of the device and got a screen and 9.7" was the size they needed to fit.

I believe (as I think only two others here were right) the device was build around the screen.

Any idiot (even my company) can machine out Aluminium, any size, glass is easy to cut.

A video panel and the way it's made will the vastly the controlling factor.
I agree. This would also explain why the iPad is 4:3 rather than 3:2 like the iPhone.
 
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Retina display
Quad core A6
30% or better battery life
Siri
5-8 megapixel camera
Effective against acne

This thing should sell like crazy. That is, unless the price jumps substantially.

Where has the 8 megapixel camera rumour come from?

I'm willing to bet the new iPad camera will not be as good as on the iPhone4S, otherwise the iPad 2 camera would have been as good as the one on the iPhone4. It makes no sense why they would suddenly put the same camera on both. They will continue to compromise with the iPad camera, which far fewer people actually use.
 
Where has the 8 megapixel camera rumour come from?

I'm willing to bet the new iPad camera will not be as good as on the iPhone4S, otherwise the iPad 2 camera would have been as good as the one on the iPhone4. It makes no sense why they would suddenly put the same camera on both. They will continue to compromise with the iPad camera, which far fewer people actually use.

So my your logic, if you don't use something often, it means you should have a lower quality item?
 
So my your logic, if you don't use something often, it means you should have a lower quality item?

I think the reason the camera on the back of the iPad 2 is inferior to the camera on the back of the iPhone 4 is because Apple thought fewer people would use their iPads to take photos. Yes.

I just think it unlikely that the next iPad camera will match the specs of the current iPhone camera, otherwise they would have used identical cameras in the first place.

Only my view of course, I guess anything's possible…
 
Where has the 8 megapixel camera rumour come from?

I'm willing to bet the new iPad camera will not be as good as on the iPhone4S, otherwise the iPad 2 camera would have been as good as the one on the iPhone4. It makes no sense why they would suddenly put the same camera on both. They will continue to compromise with the iPad camera, which far fewer people actually use.

I think that the iPad 3 will probably have something like a 3 or 5 megapixel camera...there is not a need for anything better. Who takes a lot of pictures with an iPad anyway?
 
Where has the 8 megapixel camera rumour come from?

I'm willing to bet the new iPad camera will not be as good as on the iPhone4S, otherwise the iPad 2 camera would have been as good as the one on the iPhone4. It makes no sense why they would suddenly put the same camera on both. They will continue to compromise with the iPad camera, which far fewer people actually use.

I should note that even if it did have 8 megapixels, that doesn't mean it would be as good as the 4s. MP isn't everything after all. There is also the physical size of the sensor, the type of sensor used, and the quality of the optics (including whether they can autofocus).
 
Would make no sense if the iPad 3 got Siri and not the iPad 2 considering the 4S is actually less powerful than the iPad 2.
How is it less powerful? Referring to the 800 MHz? You do realize that iPad apps usually require a little bit more RAM ánd that an iPhone 4S only has to deal with 614400 pixels. The iPad 2 has to deal with 768432 pixels.
 
^ Siri doesn't need much local processing power anyway. Most of the work is done on a remote server.

Licensing fees and server load are perhaps the real reasons we'll never see it on pre-4S devices.
 
I think that the iPad 3 will probably have something like a 3 or 5 megapixel camera...there is not a need for anything better. Who takes a lot of pictures with an iPad anyway?

I've been seeing more and more people doing it lately. They look even more foolish than I imagined they would.

The most absurd one I saw was a guy shooting an automotive stunt show from the back of the stands, a good 600' from the action. "You see, that pixel is the presenter, that bundle of 8 is the car that's going to jump off the ramp truck, which is that blob of 17 pixels in the middle of the screen."

I've used the back camera in my iPad 2 exactly one time--to see just how bad it was. That curiosity satisfied, I haven't encountered a single opportunity where it would have been useful, even if it were the 5MP unit from the iPhone 4.
 
Exactly.

Fit a rubbish camera (1 megapixel) on the back of the iPad and everyone says it's fine, who would be stupid enough to use one anyway.

Fit a 8 megapixel on the back of it, and everyone would be saying how much better it is than other tablets that you can take great quality images directly on the device, edit them in some photo editing software and then send them to someone else.

Let's be honest, on these forums, whichever choice Apple take, it will be said was the right one, irrespective of anything.

Tell you what............

Offer two iPad's one with a 1mp camera, one with a 8mb camera, price them at $20 difference, and see which one people here buy given the free choice.

And we all know the answer to that don't we.
 
Exactly.

Fit a rubbish camera (1 megapixel) on the back of the iPad and everyone says it's fine, who would be stupid enough to use one anyway.

Fit a 8 megapixel on the back of it, and everyone would be saying how much better it is than other tablets that you can take great quality images directly on the device, edit them in some photo editing software and then send them to someone else.

Let's be honest, on these forums, whichever choice Apple take, it will be said was the right one, irrespective of anything.

Tell you what............

Offer two iPad's one with a 1mp camera, one with a 8mb camera, price them at $20 difference, and see which one people here buy given the free choice.

And we all know the answer to that don't we.

Personally, I still don't understand why Apple have put a camera on the back of a tablet computer. I think it's a complete waste - maybe only good for flipping the view in FaceTime but even then you could just turn the tablet around. It's the one thing I really don't get. I know people say augmented reality apps but I really don't think the usage of those on an iPad is that great.
 
Personally, I still don't understand why Apple have put a camera on the back of a tablet computer. I think it's a complete waste - maybe only good for flipping the view in FaceTime but even then you could just turn the tablet around. It's the one thing I really don't get. I know people say augmented reality apps but I really don't think the usage of those on an iPad is that great.

I'd say since it doesn't add much to the price or compromise the form factor, it's kind of a "why not" ... especially since as a computing model, we're still figuring out how to use tablets.

Real world examples: a couple of our apps we're prototyping for the iPad will use the rear camera to supplement the user supplied data (field forensics & facility management ... the latter may also use the camera for barcode scanning).
 
Some people just don't think about uses do they.

Given the difficulty getting data into an iPad imagine an iPad in business, you carry it around with you, you see documents or brochures whilst you are on the move, perhaps at another company, you hold your ipad over the document, photo it (with a flash) perhaps add a quick note onto the image and email it direct back to your office, or keep it on your ipad for future ref.

At the moment with just a low quality camera and no flash this is just not really possible.
 
Definition of Retina display

After calculating the Pixel Per Inch using assumed resolution and a 9.7" display I got 264ppi

The iPhone 4 has 332 or so ppi. At a distance of 1 foot Jobs concluded that the human eye can perceive roughly 286ppi at best. Giving the iPhone 4 the best possible visual display (and then some. The iPhone 4 has the greatest ocular clarity at the average used distance of any device period. Since the iPad 3 would more than likely fall underneath 100% ocular performance can it be considered a "retina display"?

In other words what makes a retina display a retina display?
 
After calculating the Pixel Per Inch using assumed resolution and a 9.7" display I got 264ppi

The iPhone 4 has 332 or so ppi. At a distance of 1 foot Jobs concluded that the human eye can perceive roughly 286ppi at best. Giving the iPhone 4 the best possible visual display (and then some. The iPhone 4 has the greatest ocular clarity at the average used distance of any device period. Since the iPad 3 would more than likely fall underneath 100% ocular performance can it be considered a "retina display"?

In other words what makes a retina display a retina display?
A retina display is only a retina display based on how far you hold it. A TV with only 50 pixels per inch can still be considered retina, if most people view it from a bigger distance.

Usually, you hold a tablet further away from your face than a phone. Thus, a retina display in a tablet can be achieved with a lower pixel density.
 
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You have an Ipad 3? Care to share pics?
 
LOL cool! I will probably get one too. I stood in line for 14 hours for the Ipad 2. It was my first iPad and worth the $950 pricetag. I just got one for my wife for x-Mas and she loves it.
 
LOL cool! I will probably get one too. I stood in line for 14 hours for the Ipad 2. It was my first iPad and worth the $950 pricetag. I just got one for my wife for x-Mas and she loves it.
Yeah, what I love about my Apple stuff, it just goes; no problems at all. Apart from when I had to take my iPad to the genuis bar but he fixed the problem in about 20 mins.

If the retina display doesn't happen on the iPad 3; will you still buy it? :p
 
Yeah, what I love about my Apple stuff, it just goes; no problems at all. Apart from when I had to take my iPad to the genuis bar but he fixed the problem in about 20 mins.

If the retina display doesn't happen on the iPad 3; will you still buy it? :p
Most likely yes. I don’t care too much about retina. Aside from the camera I think movies and such look just fine on the ipad 2. I do want more of an update then the iphone 4S to the 4.
 
This is so true

Like Woody Allen used to say about a certain restaurant at a resort in the Catskills,

The food here is terrible and in such small portions.

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I am marking your words right now

Where should I send the I told you so?

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You're good,

But what was the asterisk for?

Typo of course.

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Would make no sense if the iPad 3 got Siri and not the iPad 2 considering the 4S is actually less powerful than the iPad 2.

Considering iPhone 4s comes after iPad 2, now it make sense. At the time Apple sold iPad 2, they didn't promise to give you Siri in the future, did they? Adding feature is a plus not a must.
 
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Can't wait to get the iPad 3.

What shall I do with my iPad when I get the iPad 3?

Seen the photos and I've read almost all replies...

But this is the big question.
Liquinn, do you have a little bro or a sis?
 
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