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who fkng cares about those plastic pieces...

im more interested in the new 5s features... if there is more than a fingerprint homebutton...

we have no leaks about further features? havent we?
 
The cords alone look like the backside of my desk :(

What kind of QC guy allows metal-on-metal contact for pre-market anodized metal parts? How would they even keep track of production lots in this mess? And having a guy run around, plug in and out of this rats nest of wires would sink throughput times to rock bottom. I would expect all testing to be in-situ; in specially designed handling kits for exactly pre-determined amounts of time.

Metal on metal? You mean plastic on metal?
 
imagine if one of those chargers were generic.

About half of them look like it, which is why I don't buy this photo as real

1. The chargers don't all look legit, no way would apple be okay with that
2. Tossed about units, nope, not Apple standard. They are totally anal, they would demand nice tidy rows
3. Seem to have them in different levels of testing, doesn't seem very Apple. Even if it's just that they were started in batches they would require it to be grouped in those tidy rows. Not a big mess
4. Blog profiles can be faked

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Wow - this is terrible.

I've seen real mobile phone testing racks. Either this is fake, or these people have no idea of what they're doing.

You really think Apple would allow this in the hands of folks that don't know what they are doing. Nope, me neither.

After all this is the same company talked about photographically matching enclosure parts, individually color testing displays and put this in every store to test replacement displays plus only lets their Genius techs do the displays
 
Looks like is a real picture people. From what the sources tell us, this indeed is not a fake.

Cause sources never lie. Especially when there's money to be made

I wouldn't be surprised if Apple ditches the 4s to get the 30 pin out of the game faster. I wouldn't be surprised if they went for a more durable material, positioning this for kids etc.

What I will be very surprised about is if this 5c or whatever it is called was designed just for third world type markets like India and China. Not after all the alt financing stuff and not with the not so subtle racism of designing something 'cheap' for those groups. I see this as a 4S with cut storage put into a body that uses a lightening port in the same scheme as keeping around the 3GS, 4 in years past. Ideal market, kids and perhaps grandparents that don't need as much and might be more likely to drop the dang thing and break it.

And I don't believe this photo was taken in an actual plant by an actual employee. Apple is too OCD to allow such a mess and not be watching to make sure it doesn't happen behind their backs and no way would they not have crazy strict policies to prevent camera on the floor. This was likely taken at some knock off shop and the profile is lying about being an actual employee.
 
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I work for Verizon. And I can assure you, this is exactly what testing looks like, unfortunately.

Yeah because Verizon is in charge of manufacture quality testing at a factory in China.

Sorry try again. This might be how Verizon tests phones after they bought them but you are in no position to speak as to how Apple or its partners do things.

If you even work for Verizon. Nature of the game, it's crazy easy to lie.
 
To me, it looks like a bunch of phones being given an initial charge before testing. If the battery has no charge, you just get a battery outline with a thin red strip on the left. So the phones need a little charge before function testing.

Unless that indicator is part of iOS and not some hardware firmware system. In which cause you don't get it until iOS is flashed into the phones and we have no proof that beta 6 was the last one and iOS 7 is GM already

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I've seen factories where they tested cheap chinese flash based MP3 players and they did the same thing as this. Same shelving with the metal bars for holding the product, ac strips with AC to USB adapters then plugged all the players in and left them there to charge up.

Sure cheap and/or knockoffs might test like this but Apple. Do you really think they would allow this. And if they did they wouldn't have nth degree security to make sure no one took a photo and revealed it to the world after all their claims of being degrees above this.
 
I remember the test labs Apple once should during antenna gate - that's some massive contrast if true.
 
possibly because they are testing the behavior of variety of non-apple plugs and cables (not necessarily the phone itself).

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Like Apple cares about how well non Apple stuff works. They don't. They are on a campaign to get folks to stop using any non Apple stuff, including MFI stuff (that part is a bit more subtle but it is there)

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Went to a BB to buy the 128 GB iPad and the woman kept trying to talk me out of it telling me that I only "need" 32-GB, how it is more than enough. I always despise when sales people try and tell me what I "need." I know what I want, shut up and give it to me. Turned out they didn't have the 128 or 64 GB.

Sounds about right. I've had them tell me stuff was out of stock when I didn't get their geek squad. Go online and order it to pick up in that store and it's in stock after all.
 
Wow - this is terrible.

I've seen real mobile phone testing racks. Either this is fake, or these people have no idea of what they're doing.

My guess is it is nothing close to the final testing setup. It is something created ad hoc for the engineers to test the very first 50 phones off the line; and each one will be lovingly handled and hand-examined. It's clearly way too inefficient for mass production.
 
Apple is one of the biggest and most known brand in the world. A lot of people in China (and around the world) want iPhones, if only because of the brand appeal, but can't afford them.

And yet China is a huge grey market for iPhones. So much so that extra measures have to be taken at launches, iPads also, to prevent rioting and resellers buying out stores
 
So? Wouldn't you use a reference of some kind when you are testing something? Maybe that device is running separate diagnostic software.

It is more logical that QA testing of a batch of stuff that is shelved together is testing the same thing, therefore using the same software. And all likely before any OS is flashed to the devices.

Not to mention if they were testing something there needs to be test input which there isn't here. You don't generally test against another unit because that unit could be faulty. You use a standardized rig that is calibrated to the exact results wanted and everything is tested with that.

If they are just units waiting to be flashed with iOS 7 or even just tested why have them turned on at all. If they are charging in prep for the software load that can be done with them off. And why are they just flung around asking for damage to occur to the enclosure, dock connector etc. And why the use of mixed cables, some of which appear to be knockoffs.

It's just not logical
 
So? Wouldn't you use a reference of some kind when you are testing something? Maybe that device is running separate diagnostic software.

Just think of the effort it would take to make this picture as a fake and what kind of benefit it would create for the maker. Do you really think it makes sense buying or building an installation with 50 loaders, producing fake iPhone 5c's cycling through diagnostics and putting them in some kind of shelve structure, just to confuse some people on Mac discussion boards?

Just because you don't understand what is going on doesn't make it fake.
I have developed my own notebooks, and I know what goes in testing.

This? This is not testing. Since we have no idea what the diagnostic software looks like, it wouldn't be hard to fool everyone if some knockoffs had testing software already running.
 
See my comment about three posts up. It makes sense if you have ever been in a scale-up testing facility or R&D facility.

It is not fake.

What another company does isn't the same as knowing what Apple does. Even if this is Apple's style you really think with all their talk of quality etc they wouldn't have serious security in place to prevent this kind of photography so their sloppy looking methods are exposed.

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I see this as an arranged leak to be honest, also really not sure about white and black, didn't the white 3gs have a black front though?

Why would Apple leak something that is so sloppy that it makes them look bad. Even if it was their style they would have set up something clean and pretty with all the phones lovely in a tidy row, clearly all Apple cables etc and leaked that. And barred any mention of knockoffs etc

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Time will tell if these are real or fake.

Or it won't. because Apple might be making a phone that more or less looks like this. But that doesn't equal this photo being legit. It could be knockoffs created based in info leaked out of the real factory posted via a profile that is giving fake info about the poster's job etc

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These are PRE-PRODUCTION models...models that are built with the proposed assembly line, and then tested a thousand different ways. This is to determine that the ASSEMBLY LINE ITSELF is functioning and ready to start churning out in the millions.

And you KNOW that on what authority. None. You have no more confirmed, legit info than the the folks are you calling stupid and telling to shut up. So why don't you follow your own advice. Because you don't know what these units are, what is going on etc.

Unless you want us to believe you are the person that took the photo. In which case, time to tell all and prove to us that you know for fact what is going on. You can start with your real name, and how you got the camera into the room to take the photo at all

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. Testing facilities should be meticulous and orderly, not the harum scarum garage sale set up depicted in the photo which is why I think it's either fake or mislabeled. THAT is my point.

Yep, even if you are testing the assembly line as claimed you use the same level of QA because anything less means potentially passing sloppy work and thus everything will be a fail.
 
I doubt those are iPhones. The charging port looks too big. It extends beyond the width of the home button, something it doesn't do on my iPad mini.
 
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who fkng cares about those plastic pieces...

im more interested in the new 5s features... if there is more than a fingerprint homebutton...

we have no leaks about further features? havent we?

That's because there are none. Well, we know the camera and CPU/GPU gets upgraded but nothing special there.
 
Why do people care so little for their job? Taking pictures of confidential stuff and posting it on your blog for some sort of social 10 minute high is idiotic.
 
What another company does isn't the same as knowing what Apple does. Even if this is Apple's style you really think with all their talk of quality etc they wouldn't have serious security in place to prevent this kind of photography so their sloppy looking methods are exposed.

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Why would Apple leak something that is so sloppy that it makes them look bad. Even if it was their style they would have set up something clean and pretty with all the phones lovely in a tidy row, clearly all Apple cables etc and leaked that. And barred any mention of knockoffs etc



Your first mistake is that you're thinking that Apple is doing the testing and the leaking, and you're wrong in both cases. The photo is coming from Pegatron, a manufacturer for Apple.

Sure, Apple may spend millions on pristine facilities with perfect rows and custom-made racks that perfectly fit each and every prototype and lining them up in orderly perfection, and then lock it down in fortress-level security so no one ever, ever sees it (unless Apple choses to place a well-staged photo in a keynote presentation for the press). But they are R&D, and very small prototype runs for concept testing and verification. Pegatron and Foxconn however, are in the business of production... inexpensive, voluminous mass production, using laborers that are paid amounts which wouldn't earn them a rented closet to sleep in if they were paid the equivalent amount in a more developed nation.

That means they are going to use methods which work for them, and work quickly. The production lines aren't going to look clean and pristine enough to do surgery in, and the testing racks are probably gonna look a lot like the one in the leaked picture.

And sorry to tell you this, but, the picture is realistic, and also reflects the results. Remember the Quality Control debacles that plagued the iPhone 5 at launch? Scuffs, buttons that didn't line up? Yeah... that's Pegatron and Foxconn's handiwork. One could say what Apple should be INCAPABLE of producing such large amounts of problematic hardware, because of their attention to detail. But again... it's not Apple that is ultimately producing the phones. And when you're told to churn out millions and millions of phones in short order to satisfy people waiting in line, that's what you're gonna get.

Could Apple demand that Foxconn and Pegatron make more perfect, more sterile, more OCD-satisfying facilities? Maybe. But guaranteed your iPhone will cost at least 3 times more, and there would be lot fewer of them available for sale.

Is the picture that of a bunch of iPhone 5Cs? I don't know. But I can say that it is very accurate of how manufacturers under contract test their products. If that doesn't fit with your fairy tale visions of how your precious Apple products should be nurtured with white gloves from production line to box, then I'm sorry to burst your bubble.
 
Went to a BB to buy the 128 GB iPad and the woman kept trying to talk me out of it telling me that I only "need" 32-GB, how it is more than enough. I always despise when sales people try and tell me what I "need." I know what I want, shut up and give it to me. Turned out they didn't have the 128 or 64 GB.

Cool story bro

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Your first mistake is that you're thinking that Apple is doing the testing and the leaking, and you're wrong in both cases. The photo is coming from Pegatron, a manufacturer for Apple.

Sure, Apple may spend millions on pristine facilities with perfect rows and custom-made racks that perfectly fit each and every prototype and lining them up in orderly perfection, and then lock it down in fortress-level security so no one ever, ever sees it (unless Apple choses to place a well-staged photo in a keynote presentation for the press). But they are R&D, and very small prototype runs for concept testing and verification. Pegatron and Foxconn however, are in the business of production... inexpensive, voluminous mass production, using laborers that are paid amounts which wouldn't earn them a rented closet to sleep in if they were paid the equivalent amount in a more developed nation.

That means they are going to use methods which work for them, and work quickly. The production lines aren't going to look clean and pristine enough to do surgery in, and the testing racks are probably gonna look a lot like the one in the leaked picture.

And sorry to tell you this, but, the picture is realistic, and also reflects the results. Remember the Quality Control debacles that plagued the iPhone 5 at launch? Scuffs, buttons that didn't line up? Yeah... that's Pegatron and Foxconn's handiwork. One could say what Apple should be INCAPABLE of producing such large amounts of problematic hardware, because of their attention to detail. But again... it's not Apple that is ultimately producing the phones. And when you're told to churn out millions and millions of phones in short order to satisfy people waiting in line, that's what you're gonna get.

Could Apple demand that Foxconn and Pegatron make more perfect, more sterile, more OCD-satisfying facilities? Maybe. But guaranteed your iPhone will cost at least 3 times more, and there would be lot fewer of them available for sale.

Is the picture that of a bunch of iPhone 5Cs? I don't know. But I can say that it is very accurate of how manufacturers under contract test their products. If that doesn't fit with your fairy tale visions of how your precious Apple products should be nurtured with white gloves from production line to box, then I'm sorry to burst your bubble.

Great post
 
Some of you people I think have the wrong idea about this company (Apple).

It's like you think just because they look so perfect on the outside, that every single aspect about them MUST be the same way, when in reality, it probably is not...

For example (different company) let's take the US Air Force. Many I'm sure would like to believe that because the way them present themselves to the public is professional and clean/neat, everything must be that way because it's the military, right?

NO!

You'd probably crap bricks if you knew how far from the truth that line of thinking is. I will not go into detail, but I'm telling you based on first hand knowledge that it isn't as squeeky clean as you're led to believe LOL...

Some people are putting way too much stock into a company's "front" and honestly, it's pretty ridiculous. As if any of this even MATTERS whatsoever.

You'll get your phone when it ships. Beyond that, who cares about what one testing rack in one picture looks like? I'm sure it's how they've been operating since they started making phones, so who cares.
 
possibly because they are testing the behavior of variety of non-apple plugs and cables (not necessarily the phone itself).

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Not sure you would do that kind of testing on a new design. Unless you are specifically testing the non apple plugs on that specific phone.
 
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