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Leaked Photos May Show Upcoming MacBook Pro's Top Case With Space for OLED Touch Panel, Four USB-C Ports
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How hard is it to put in 3 USB-C and 1 USB-3 Port instead of 4 USB-C ports? Along with Magsafe? I agree USB-C is the future but hey USB-3 is still the standard for years. And Magsafe is the single best invention on Macs since the mouse.
Thinner. Less ports. Less upgradability. Less features. That pretty much sums up Apple 'Innovation' in the past 5 years. Maybe somebody will come in at some point and realize that innovation can include more power and more features as well. But at the moment, Jony Ive and his one-trick-pony approach is all that seems to be driving Apple.
This product is the result of having a COO running the company as a CEO.
More planned obsolescence.....machines that fall on the floor don't last as long
Then you don't have toddlers or small pets. MagSafe has saved thousands of dollars for me throughout the years. My wife's rMB took a spill last year as our littlest one tripped over her cord. Thank God only the cable broke when it fell along with a small dent. None of that has happened to my rMBPs that have MagSafe. Apple is giving up a huge advantage they have over Windows pcs. If they don't want MagSafe anymore apple should just give up the patents or at the very least license it to dell/hp!
Okay, I was finger wagging.
The thing is...I don't see very many people here (if any) cheering on this potential, new MBP that you feel is less than what it should be. The overwhelming amount of posts here are filled with criticisms of what they think the next MacBook Pro is going to offer, or rather not offer. The overall vibe is resoundingly negative. Almost everyone is extremely upset for some reason, whether it be about the lack of ports, or the omission of MagSafe, or the fact that it is probably going to be thinner, or they are unhappy about the OLED touch bar that they feel will be gimmicky, or they are unhappy about the very real chance of no dGPU, etc. Overall, I really don't see much cheering going on to be honest.
Apple is building this machine for consumers, because that's who actually buy the vast majority of these machines, and not professionals. For instance, I just graduated college at the end of December, and nearly every student had a 13" rMBP despite the fact that they were not professionals. If you go to the Apple Store and see the sessions at the store where they teach people about their computers, you'll see all of these people with 13" rMBP's who know nothing about computers (ergo, not pros) learning how to use their machines. I don't think that these people will be extremely inconvenienced or feel like they are getting less. When push comes to shove, the MacRumors target audience is not really the target of the MBP anymore.
I don't think you would like my arguments that I could make about why it might make sense for a laptop that costs over $2000 to offer less ports. However, I will certainly try and give you one. For instance, a 2016 MBP with USB-C only could be more future proof and provide more utility in the long run than one that offers other ports. Sure, it might be inconveniencing today, but what about tomorrow? Lots of people keep their Macs for 3-5 years. If they included less USB-C in exchange for USB-A, HDMI, mDP, then in three years when you have more up-to-date peripherals, those old ports might be useless to you and you might wish you had more USB-C. In two to three years, I might be connecting to an external display via Thunderbolt 3 and have flash drives and external hard drives that connect via USB-C. In my life, most of my technology is getting old and I am looking to replace it with the most cutting edge things. I would much rather buy an adapter and deal with the inconvenience at first. That way, I can get it out of the way and have things work out better in the long run when I replace my old, aging USB 2 external hard drive with one that connects via USB-C. Others may be different, but I am always looking out years in advance, and in my opinion, it makes more sense to buy a MBP with a much more versatile, modern USB-C. There is a transition involved here as the industry switches to USB-C, and it's possible that Apple is doing what they can to provide a better user experience.
I don't think that Apple knows best. In fact, take a look at the "Apple Made Me Buy A Windows HP Workstation" in the Mac Pro forum and see my replies to a guy who switched to Windows. You'll see that I think Apple makes asinine decisions and applaud his decision. When it comes to the MBP, however, I was just trying to look at things from Apple's perspective, which is important as they are ones who have all of the control. I think that Apple believes that the overwhelming majority of their notebook consumers do not use HDMI or the SD card reader (and they are probably correct), which is why they feel comfortable removing them from the machine. I don't see this particular decision as a money grab.
I subject myself to the complaining because I've been coming here to read and talk about Apple products for almost eight years now, and it's not easy for me to just up and leave, no matter how much I dislike the current atmosphere.
Oh my that looks stupid. On top of losing mag safe, ports, and user servicability, the inclusion of that useless and likely detrimental "strip" is an insult to prosumers and the MacBook Pro name.The mac cloners already have they're copy machines up and running.
Photos have leaked depicting alleged components destined for the rumored redesigned MacBook Pro, giving us a look at the thin body of the device, the space where a rumored OLED touch panel will be positioned, and its possible ports.
Article Link: Leaked Photos May Show Upcoming MacBook Pro's Top Case With Space for OLED Touch Panel, Four USB-C Ports
So MacRumors posts that there is a rumor that the next MacBook Pro "may have" an OLED touch panel, and suddenly there are photos (*faked* *cough* *cough*) that "may show" upcoming MacBook Pro updates related to a OLED touch panel?
Really?
Really?!?!?
Man, I wish my work would write itself like this.
You ever go to a press conference filled with D4/D5/EOS-1D users?
None of them use SD cards.
Also, no one in the industry uses the D750/D610. They are casual consumer level products.
Actually, just checked Canon and their top of the line DSLRs all use Compact Flash, not SD. Some use both, but their top of the line (1DX II) uses only CF or CFast cards.
New designs are great and all, but how are we supposed to plug in anything?
There is no USB-A, so no USB keyboards and no USB mice--including wireless ones which require a USB transmitter (eg Logitech).
How are we supposed to share files with colleagues? Certainly not via USB thumb drives
How about SD cards. Sorry there's no place for them either in this brave new world.
How about connecting directly to a router or NAS? Nope.
Connecting to your external hard drive or DAS? Nope again.
How about plugging in to a projector? Triple nope.
Everything is predicated on wireless, but I have seen wireless fail spectacularly when it was most needed, in professional settings.
The only alternative is adapters, but Apple won't mention that in their presentation. They won't mention the additional costs for adapters incurred by customers. They won't mention the difficulties their customers will face carrying and using adapters for everything! Will all the adapters fit side by side even?
What then is Apple providing its customers?
Apple's vision is very forward-thinking, perhaps too much so. Until USB-C becomes ubiquitous, Apple would do better to allow a period of transition by providing at least two USB 3 type-A ports.
Honestly, how many peripherals use type-c USB ports? How many are commonly used?
You must never have had to deal with kids, pets, or clumsy people.
Doesn't this defeat the purpose of a potable computer? All I can envision is the transformation of a svelte machine into a monstrosity with three or four dongles hanging off it just for basic connections.
There is no USB-A, so no USB keyboards and no USB mice--including wireless ones which require a USB transmitter (eg Logitech).
How are we supposed to share files with colleagues? Certainly not via USB thumb drives
How about SD cards. Sorry there's no place for them either in this brave new world.
How about connecting directly to a router or NAS? Nope.
Connecting to your external hard drive or DAS? Nope again.
How about plugging in to a projector? Triple nope.
Everything is predicated on wireless, but I have seen wireless fail spectacularly when it was most needed, in professional settings.
The only alternative is adapters, but Apple won't mention that in their presentation. They won't mention the additional costs for adapters incurred by customers. They won't mention the difficulties their customers will face carrying and using adapters for everything! Will all the adapters fit side by side even?
What then is Apple providing its customers?
Apple's vision is very forward-thinking, perhaps too much so. Until USB-C becomes ubiquitous, Apple would do better to allow a period of transition by providing at least two USB 3 type-A ports.
Honestly, how many peripherals use type-c USB ports? How many are commonly used?
You must never have had to deal with kids, pets, or clumsy people.
Doesn't this defeat the purpose of a potable computer? All I can envision is the transformation of a svelte machine into a monstrosity with three or four dongles hanging off it just for basic connections.
As so many have said, great to see Mac image leaks. Hope this means some good news in the Mac department.
Wow, that's a close one. My little cousins adapted immediately to charging cables since they play with our iPads a lot and my dog avoids cords like they were baths as well (If only that worked with my socks). I guess I'm just lucky.
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Oh man this does not even start to explain my frusteration with any windows charging cables. My laptop could have been ruined just a month after I bought it when I took it to a friends house and someone tripped over my chord. The laptop cracked just below the charging port but nothing major. I was so relieved when that was the only damage...
A well designed machine - no matter what it is - should not need multiple adapters to take advantage of its features. That is the entire point of paying top dollar for a product! That's why BMW's cost more than some other brands; the features and benefits are built-in.
Adapters are accessories. Accessories are fashion items. Apple clearly wants to be a fashion accessory company. Why else would they hire someone like Angela A? She knows nothing about marketing computers, but I bet she had a say in all those new watch bands....just saying.
Adapters are accessories. Accessories are fashion items. Apple clearly wants to be a fashion accessory company. Why else would they hire someone like Angela A? She knows nothing about marketing computers, but I bet she had a say in all those new watch bands....just saying.
It's for gimmick factor. Gimmicks make Apple money these days.
Posted this in the Skylake thread but what if the space in the case is being used for a Smart Connector? It'd be MagSafe 3.0.
No, you'll use one port to connect to an adapter that carries all of those protocols over a single connection. That's the entire point of usb-c and Thunderbolt. You'll gain the convenience of single-connection docking and most likely end up with 3 other ports that are rarely used.
TB3 is not built into the CPU at this point, but rather added via a daughter-board available with either one or two usb-c ports. Apple will be using two of these, one on each side of the device if this rumor is legit (and I have a feeling it is). All 4 ports will be equal.
I expect we will see at least one new usb-c adapter unveiled with this release that is 4k compatible and I expect we'll also see a new line of Apple monitors with a single usb-c connection. It will be a single connection to the monitor for power, display and data and the new monitor will have a bunch of ports built in. Suddenly you'll have a high-speed docking solution from a single cable.
The reality is that even though most people won't pair these with the new monitors, the vast majority of them will get everything they need connection-wise from a single, 1oz adapter which will carry some combination of power/video/legacy ports. Most people will find that in reality they don't even need those other 3 ports the majority of the time because of the immense bandwidth of a single Thunderbolt port.
Seriously. Apple is becoming like Dell, Acer or HP.