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This is actually good for me - my credit card will stay in my pocket.

If the new rMBP actually offered something better than what I have now, I'd want to buy it, even though my current rMBP is only a year old. But only USB-C means I can't use any of my thumb drives or backup drives without an adapter. The adapters I already have will be useless because they're all USB 3.0 - again, without another adapter. Don't really see the value in boxes full of adapters for what is essentially a rMB with a couple of extra ports. I'm willing to bet the base model will be under-powered with 8gb ram and a small SSD. That means in order to get anything near the performance and ports I have now I'll have to spend upwards of an extra $500 on upgrades and dongles.

Seems like a great money-maker for Apple, they'll just have to make it off of someone else. I'll be keeping my rMBP until it dies.
 
Without even having seen the final model nor how it works, my guess is that the OLED panel won't become very popular. I never liked the touch keys on my older notebook. Lets see if apple can do some magic there.
 
No MagSafe????? :'(
If you think about it, it makes sense. Laptop these days is so light that the magnet might be too strong it won't pop out like before. And if you make the magnet weaker, it will get yank out too easily. Imagine the magsafe for ipad. It won't work.
 
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I think Apple's standards for "pro" have dropped quite a while ago
I am a pro user. My use for a MacBook Pro is neuroscience computation on the go. While an SD port is useful, I've never used one on my Macs. There are many more professionals than photographers.

Not including it will be an inconvenience for many but I bet most people purchasing the MacBook Pro won't even know it's gone.
 
Nice finger wagging there. Honestly, I've embraced more changes than you even realize existed unless you took a course in ancient computing. So your comments do come off as thin, yes. The fact that the HDMI port and SD card are not important to you is not the standard of a pro machine. Again, Apple makes two nice laptop lines that do not have these options, if that is what you are looking for. But generally people buying a high end computer want as many of the likely ports they might encounter internally so as to avoid schlepping extra dongles. That is one of the reasons you pay the big $ for the MBP over the MB.

HDMI is still the video standard for TVs. People, that's professional, do on occasion make presentations and hook in their computer to a monitor. So to say workflows are changing, well, the presentation hasn't changed that much yet. And the SD card, it's just convenience. It costs Apple minimal and it just sits there patiently until it's needed. That is a lot more useful than shaving off a few mm of the case. I don't see how workflows are enhanced by a thinner case in that regard.

I have no bones about the move to USB-C. In fact I've been cheering it on here at MR. Glad to see it, but, in addition to the other ports like HDMI and SD slot and, yes, even a dedicated TB3/MDP port. A $2K pro machine with just 4 USB-C ports -- one which must be used for power unless, hey, you have a dongle -- is ridiculous, not tech forward.

And as for your Jobs history lesson -- He ditched the floppy on a brand new model first, the iMac. It was a couple years before the pro machines didn't have a floppy and by that time they really were obsolete because of CD-R. In fact, I owned the first PowerBook w/ no floppy. Fantastic machine.

Old Apple I/O - you mean like NuBus and SCSI? They were obsolete dinosaurs too when they were ditched. Nothing like HDMI today.

Optical drives - again Apple ditched them when it was clear there were better alternatives. As I write today, TV monitors still use HDMI almost exclusively, and cameras largely use SD, with a few top end DSLRs using CF. So yes, HDMI and SD are still relevant in 2016 unlike all the examples you chose to give.

Don't assume that just because I have a different opinion that I am finger wagging. And if I am, I'm only finger wagging because I find all of the endless complaining that people do here these days tiresome. I'm not talking about you in particular, of course, but you would honestly think that it was the end of the world sometimes. I guess I just come all of this from a different angle because I am not someone who thinks of the MacBook Pro as a professional machine in any way. All of the people that I know who have MBP's are the furthest thing from professionals (some of who can barely use and troubleshoot the computer in the first place), and it's obvious to me that despite what Apple says, they aren't really catering to the Pro market anymore. It's completely clear to me at least, and I think that everything around here would be much better if people could realize that.

As for HDMI and projection, all of the times I've encountered this involved the use of the mDP and not HDMI, so perhaps I am incorrect about it's importance. And sure, these technologies are still relevant to you, but are they relevant to Apple? They are increasingly promoting an all wireless world, and they would rather you use AirPlay Mirroring to connect your Mac to your TV and not HDMI, just like they are ditching USB-A because they feel that there is a far better alternative in USB-C. Apple does seem to think that there are far better alternatives (to HDMI, SD card reader, etc.), even if you don't, which is why they are making these moves. And for that SD card? It might only have a minimal cost associated with it, but should Apple really be adding it if people don't use it very much? Most people are using photo services like iCloud Photos and Google Photos and such. And don't cameras have WiFI these days anyways? And again, I am not coming at this from the Pro angle either, because I am not convinced that this machine is geared towards actual pros. I mean, Apple is willing to slap the Pro moniker on an iPad that doesn't have file system access, so I don't think we can put any stock in the name.

Overall, I'm convinced that Apple looks at these ports the way that you looked at NuBus, SCSI, and ADB when they were ditched, like old dinosaurs. I think that the evidence is in their philosophy of the rMB. This is what they seem to think computing should be like in their view...for everyone. Keep in mind that tons of people in 2008 felt that the optical drive was still extremely relevant, but again, it wasn't to Apple because they, among other reasons, would rather promote their iTunes Movie rentals and sales.

Oh, and I just meant that the HDMI port and SD card reader were not important to me. I didn't mean to insinuate that they were not important to anyone. Even though I don't need all of the power that the MBP possesses, it's nice to have it at times, and I insist on a 15" display. So any other Apple notebook is really not my cup of tea. If Apple were to create a 15" rMB, I might consider it as I do all of my computing over the internet or wirelessly at the very least. I use the Cloud, backup wirelessly, transfer files via iMessage or email, etc, so all of these ports are not totally necessary for me, and I'd argue for most others these days.
 
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Can someone explain what this touch panel is about please? Why is it going to be useful? Who even uses function keys that often and why would it be better if they're in a touch panel?...
 
Pro cameras use CF and XQD cards, not SD's.

You must be new to photography, CF is slowly dying in the photographic community, Canon is the only one still producing bodies that use CF which also support SD, and Nikon is attempting to push XQD in a staggering two cameras. SD still holds the floor my friend.

Please list the plethora of other Pro bodies that are CF and XQD except for the D500 and D5?
 
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it just occurred to me that the OLED bar is probably the best argument for a WWDC reveal since then they can probably open it up for app developers to start adopting it right there.

Which would hopefully indicate these machines will be released sooner rather than later. Apple don't pre announce hardware that will be released months ahead ( they've only done so for origin iPhone, AppleTV and Mac Pro ).
 
This is Apple's way of saying they're not interested in making computers for people who need them for serious work anymore.

I still have an X230 Thinkpad. It has an SD card slot, 3 USB 3.0 ports, HDMI, Ethernet port, a solid state express card slot, and I can hook up an external monitor on another port. All this in about 3lbs. This machine is still capable of being a serious workhorse and is very fast because I was able to upgrade the SSD and RAM.

I honestly think all we're going to see from here on out is rMacBooks with more ports. The pro line is done.
 
Pro's don't use SD cards. That's a consumer-level product.

There are many cameras at $2000 or $3000 or more that use SD cards. Wouldn't those be used by pros? :)

If anything, they should have an XQD slot.

Cameras that use XQD cards are few and far between.

Maybe Apple should put a RED Mini-Mag Reader in the Macbook Pro. I bet there are more RED cameras out in the world than cameras using XQD cards. ;)

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interesting. I have been wondering when a display would show up on the keyboard.

Will be interesting to see if it's form factor replaces the Macbook air, which is kind of in limbo these days. Finally a positive rumour! Everything
Where's MagSafe?
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my exact question too. It would be a shame if it only had USB-C to charge with, but the charging port should be closer to the top on the edge.

Could we be on the verge of wireless charging? I'm probably hoping too much.
 
This is Apple's way of saying they're not interested in making computers for people who need them for serious work anymore.

I still have an X230 Thinkpad. It has an SD card slot, 3 USB 3.0 ports, HDMI, Ethernet port, a solid state express card slot, and I can hook up an external monitor on another port. All this in about 3lbs. This machine is still capable of being a serious workhorse and is very fast because I was able to upgrade the SSD and RAM.

I honestly think all we're going to see from here on out is rMacBooks with more ports. The pro line is done.

This.

No more need be said.

thnner, thinner, thinner, thinner ... then finally the anorexic dies and everyone feels bad for her.

At this point it's a disease, not a 'feature'.
 
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Man, I feel that Apple care about everything a pro user doesn't care about. Obsessed with thin, while pro users want power and ports.

USB-C is so versatile, but this will set me back $320 in adapters if I used every port.

This makes me more disappointed than excited by Apple's direction.

I hope this is a 13" and there is an SD slot.
 
You must be new to photography, CF is pretty much dead in the photographic community, Canon is the only one still producing bodies that use CF which also support SD, and Nikon is attempting to push XQD in a staggering two cameras. SD still holds the floor my friend.

Please list the plethora of other Pro bodies that are CF and XQD except for the D500 and D5?

The D810 is also CF mainly.

As you said Canon is also CF on pro bodies.

That's pretty much all of the pro market.

Also, nobody is putting SD readers on comparable products, like the SurfaceBook, why should Apple bother with it? Modern cameras have WiFi anyways, even consumer cameras.
 
Not sure I get the excitement over an OLED touch panel in lieu of function keys. I rarely use these. Not exactly where I'd put my money.
 
This is Apple's way of saying they're not interested in making computers for people who need them for serious work anymore.

I still have an X230 Thinkpad. It has an SD card slot, 3 USB 3.0 ports, HDMI, Ethernet port, a solid state express card slot, and I can hook up an external monitor on another port. All this in about 3lbs. This machine is still capable of being a serious workhorse and is very fast because I was able to upgrade the SSD and RAM.

I honestly think all we're going to see from here on out is rMacBooks with more ports. The pro line is done.

Can you attach 2 Ethernet cables and 2 4K 60hz monitors at the same time?

That's right...
 
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If it is a 13" in the photo, or the smaller of the two "pro" sizes (assuming Apple doesn't just go with a single 14" size for the pro moving forward, which I doubt,) then a bigger one will most likely have more ports. What those extra ports would be is anybody's guess right now, but whatever the case may be, it's way too early to get all up in arms about "just 4 ports".
 
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