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apple isnt going to make it a standard. its already out there and doesnt need apple to spread.

Well, then show me which company built laptops with only USB-C ports on it and which one can also make as much as an impact as Apple does in terms of establishing next generation ports or whatever.
 
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If it's a legitimate part, and the MBPs aren't coming out until Q4 of this year, it could be a test run for the body. The final version may still have an SD reader. Early days...

From what a few people have been saying Apple's Q4 runs from July-September, so it's possible we may see them announced at WWDC. It would make sense if the OLED touch panel needs app developers to work on their apps.
Apple have in the past held an event in October for Mac's and iPad's but for the last 2 years (this year and last year) they have held a March event which in turn has replaced the October event (unless they plan to hold 4 events this year or announced alongside the iPhone 7).
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I'm still wondering what Apple could do with the OLED touch bar but this render looks good, if Apple do this i for one would buy it. The shortcuts would be great, plus moving the dock onto it would also work giving more screen real-estate.
 
I use the Macbook Air and have for years, upgraded almost yearly. The Air comes with some limitations that requires adapters, I currently walk around with TB-Ethernet, TB-HDMI, TB-VGA. I also have an adapter for COM-port, but that runs on a regular USB-A port.

If I wanted to upgrade to this computer, none of my older adapters would work. Not one. I could potentially get them to work via a USB'C-TB adapter and plug most of them in, but that would just look stupid..

This design, if accurate, seems rushed and not well thought out. I can understand adding one ore two USB'C ports for a slow transition, but to completely remove all others... strange decision.

I'm used to adapters, but not being able to plug in a regular USB-drive without having a adapter, that's where I draw the line.

I also question everyone that say they do this for thinness.. The Air has plenty of regular ports. Does Apple need to design a "pro" machine thinner then the Air?
 
That's a good question. If all we see are rMB's with varying numbers of a single type of port, which is what this rumor suggests, then there is no more 'pro' version in reality.

Why not? 4 USBc ports would be massively more I/o bandwidth than the MBPs have ever had. That's far more pro than the pros have been.

What are you basing it on? "Pros can't buy adapters or the right cables"? Or what, a Pro machine must keep legacy ports?

USBC is as pro as a connector gets. It can transfer to hdmi, USB, FireWire, power, thunderbolt.
 
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Nah, that used to be true but no longer is:

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I'm one of the "some folks" and got rid of my Retina MacBook after giving it a shot for a few weeks. I "got used to" the new keyboard but just found it unpleasant to use. It would not kill the design of either of these machines to add a 1-2 MM of travel to make the keys feel like normal keys.
I am trying to stay positive about the new keyboard, but I agree with this. The spy photo here does show thinner gaps between keys than the current/old keyboard, so they are clearly changing something. I am HOPING (praying?) they will give us the new keyboard but with a couple of extra millimeters of travel on the butterfly switches, as you suggest. I suspect they won't. :(

The worst thing here is the lack of a VARIETY of ports. The whole point of the MBP is to give us more power and versatility in one package, without a bag full of adapters and new cables! G-dd-ammit, Apple!?! :mad:
 
OK, I guess I am slow... How do I do this? My rMB charger has USB-C on it, my iPhone charger USB-A. My rMB has USB-C, iPhone and iPad are lightning. I was told the rMB USB is a higher voltage than iPhone USB power. My iPhone charger will not charge my rMB. So exactly how do I carry a single charger for all of these devices? Will the rMB charger charge my iPhone and iPad through a USB-C to lightning cable? And plugging my rMB into the now common USB charging ports in cars and airplanes does not seem to charge my rMB, though it does charge my iPhone and iPad.

Yes, as mentioned your rMB charger is fully compatible with any device that charges via usb. You just need to change the connector type. You could either buy new cables, or the better option is to buy a cheap usb-c to usb-a adapter and keep it on one of your lightning cables. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015Z7XB30/ref=twister_B017CPRZFS?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

I use the Macbook Air and have for years, upgraded almost yearly. The Air comes with some limitations that requires adapters, I currently walk around with TB-Ethernet, TB-HDMI, TB-VGA. I also have an adapter for COM-port, but that runs on a regular USB-A port.

If I wanted to upgrade to this computer, none of my older adapters would work. Not one. I could potentially get them to work via a USB'C-TB adapter and plug most of them in, but that would just look stupid..

This design, if accurate, seems rushed and not well thought out. I can understand adding one ore two USB'C ports for a slow transition, but to completely remove all others... strange decision.

I'm used to adapters, but not being able to plug in a regular USB-drive without having a adapter, that's where I draw the line.

I also question everyone that say they do this for thinness.. The Air has plenty of regular ports. Does Apple need to design a "pro" machine thinner then the Air?

Apple has never been a company to stick with one foot in the past, the other in the future. And with good reason. When you do that, you eliminate the incentive for companies to advance. Going all-in on usb-c will speed up the shift to this new, massively improved format by a great deal. Leaving legacy ports available alongside them will guarantee that usb-c takes years to take off, and might mean it never gains traction at all.
 
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The worst thing here is the lack of a VARIETY of ports. The whole point of the MBP is to give us more power and versatility in one package, without a bag full of adapters and new cables! G-dd-ammit, Apple!?! :mad:

4 USBC ports is as versatile as you can get. You can connect to anything with the right cable. USB. FireWire. Thunderbolt. HDMI. Ethernet. It's the most flexible and versatile port there is.

Why have 4 different ports that can only do one thing each? What's the benefit of an hdmi port over USBC? You can't plug an hdmi cable into a USB hard drive. Or a FireWire audio interface. Or a SD card reader.
 
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I am trying to stay positive about the new keyboard, but I agree with this. The spy photo here does show thinner gaps between keys than the current/old keyboard, so they are clearly changing something. I am HOPING (praying?) they will give us the new keyboard but with a couple of extra millimeters of travel on the butterfly switches, as you suggest. I suspect they won't. :(

The worst thing here is the lack of a VARIETY of ports. The whole point of the MBP is to give us more power and versatility in one package, without a bag full of adapters and new cables! G-dd-ammit, Apple!?! :mad:

A single one-ounce adapter like the existing one they sell for the rMB will give you most of the variety you crave - power, display and usb-a all in one port. You can bet that there will soon be a million other options so you can get exactly what you need from one adapter. This design is far more powerful and far more flexible than anything they've ever offered in the past.
 
Why not? 4 USBc ports would be massively more I/o bandwidth than the MBPs have ever had. That's far more pro than the pros have been.

What are you basing it on? "Pros can't buy adapters or the right cables"? Or what, a Pro machine must keep legacy ports?

USBC is as pro as a connector gets. It can transfer to hdmi, USB, FireWire, power, thunderbolt.
Dude. Since inception, the MBPro has featured a mix of ports we need now, plus the new stuff we need coming. There's plenty of room on this thing to offer more than just 4 of the same thing. This is insane.
 
Dude. Since inception, the MBPro has featured a mix of ports we need now, plus the new stuff we need coming. There's plenty of room on this thing to offer more than just 4 of the same thing. This is insane.

No it hasn't. First they removed the cd-rom and the vga port, then the Ethernet port. It goes on and on. This is the first time in history that we finally have a single port that is flexible enough to be used in any way you might need - power, video, data. This is a sea change in computer connectivity, and if Apple were to leave a bunch of legacy ports alongside a single usb-c port a-la Dell or Lenovo, it'd never take off and 5 years from now we'd still be working with these existing legacy ports and hamstrung by their limitations.
 
4 USBC ports is as versatile as you can get. You can connect to anything with the right cable. USB. FireWire. Thunderbolt. HDMI. Ethernet. It's the most flexible and versatile port there is.

Why have 4 different ports that can only do one thing each? What's the benefit of an hdmi port over USBC? You can't plug an hdmi cable into a USB hard drive. Or a FireWire audio interface. Or a SD card reader.
I guess I'm just a spoiled f**k who wants it all. SD card especially. I *love* being able to put my camera memory card straight into my laptop and even leave it there when packed up. SD card dongles are so clunky.

I'm not disputing the awesomeness of USB-C. I'm wondering why we have to suffer with ONLY ONE kind of port, no matter what it is. Even if you're just giving me an "internal adapter" from the USB-C bus to HDMI and an SD card slot, do it. Leave one USB-C port on each side! Or two! Sure. Do it all. Why not? Cutting into precious battery size that must occupy every possible cubic millimeter of space? Ugh.
 
Been waiting for the next redesign before upgrading my mid-2011 MBP. But man, no SD slot?! As a photographer I use that regularly. Not looking forward to going back and using dongles again...
 
Been waiting for the next redesign before upgrading my mid-2011 MBP. But man, no SD slot?! As a photographer I use that regularly. Not looking forward to going back and using dongles again...

I seriously can't imagine a situation where this is going to matter in practice. As a photographer you are going to have a large bag with all sorts of other accessories in it. Is it really a big deal that you now need to add a tiny usb to sd adapter to everything else you already carry? The fact is that the SD card slot was almost certainly used by only a small minority of MBP users. It doesn't make sense to keep it there when the alternative is to massively simplify the design with 4 identical ports that allows everyone to use it exactly as they need without anyone paying for a legacy port they don't need.
 
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Dude. Since inception, the MBPro has featured a mix of ports we need now, plus the new stuff we need coming. There's plenty of room on this thing to offer more than just 4 of the same thing. This is insane.

It's not like there isn't precedence for this. One of the best laptops I ever bought was my PowerBook G3 FireWire. They replaced all ADB, Serial and SCSI ports with USB and FireWire. I was completely screwed. Not a single peripheral I owned was compatible with it, and the adapters that were available at the time were expensive, hard to get, and unreliable.

It took me a while to switch over to native peripherals, but that laptop was one of the most beloved and best selling of Apple's laptops. It was a laptop for the future, and though it caused me a lot of angst initially, it lasted over 7 years until I bought the first MacBook, which didn't require me to update anything because all the ports it had were switched over in my last PowerBook. If I had still been using a PowerBook G3 from one year earlier than mine for instance I would have had to go through that painful transition then, not to mention still working on 1980s technology, buying more legacy hardware to use on my outdated ports rather than moving forward.

This is the price one pays for progress. If someone truly needs a MacBook full of a variety of ports, Apple will likely still offer the current MBP, which is a more than capable product, and at a nice discount as well. By the time a "pro" customer needs to upgrade that, the need for all those different ports may well be minimal, just as my need for ADB, Serial & SCSI reduced year after year as I was able to embrace newer tech with my PB G3.
 
or do you want a different power solution that could potentially be more resilient?

Yeah. the only thing that is very resilient is to letting go of my laptop while I trip over the cord
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when was the last time your Macbook was really in danger of the power-cord-stuck-to-the-computer-when-someone-walks-by-thereby-pulling-the-machine-off-the-table accident?

Twice just this week actually. It happens pretty frequently. Sometimes the MBP will slide a bit before the magsafe disconnects. Those times I get lucky. MagSafe is pretty handy.
 
this is silly. Apple was all about "we do what the consumer wants that they didn't know they wanted".. well these days i see apple doing more and more things that we don't want. It's about what apple wants now. the balance has deteriorated. its greed - they want their computer business to work the same way their phone business does so they can sell more every year. But thats not what people want or expect in computers, Apple. Slowly but surely you're sinking your computer business, and a gap is growing for a new computer to fill demand that consumers actually want.
 
this is silly. Apple was all about "we do what the consumer wants that they didn't know they wanted".. well these days i see apple doing more and more things that we don't want. It's about what apple wants now. the balance has deteriorated. its greed - they want their computer business to work the same way their phone business does so they can sell more every year. But thats not what people want or expect in computers, Apple. Slowly but surely you're sinking your computer business, and a gap is growing for a new computer to fill demand that consumers actually want.

I see it as exactly the opposite. This is a classic case of Apple leading consumers to a better place that they don't even know they wanted to go to. Going all-in on usb-c/thunderbolt is genius, and people will realize this in the not to distant future. The capabilities of a single one of these ports is so great that the vast majority of users are never going to use the other 3. Apple is just going overkill with FOUR thunderbolt ports to drive home the point that this is still a PRO machine.

If they listened to users we'd have legacy ports hanging on for years after they were outdated, radically slowing the adoption of new technologies, slowing down innovation greatly.
 
this is silly. Apple was all about "we do what the consumer wants that they didn't know they wanted".. well these days i see apple doing more and more things that we don't want. It's about what apple wants now. the balance has deteriorated. its greed - they want their computer business to work the same way their phone business does so they can sell more every year. But thats not what people want or expect in computers, Apple. Slowly but surely you're sinking your computer business, and a gap is growing for a new computer to fill demand that consumers actually want.

If your referring to the OLED touch panel and the rumoured touch ID that is said to be a feature of the Macbook Pro's then how do you know you don't want it until Apple have shown it off? a lot of people on here have been talking about what other companies have been doing with touch panels, but that doesn't mean Apple will be doing the same. I'm looking to upgrade from my current 2011 Macbook Pro, i will wait until the new Macbook Pro's are announced before judging, i for one don't know what Apple intends to do with the rumoured OLED touch panel, i guess we will find out at WWDC or later in the later.
 
Except many pro level cameras that do, like the ones from Fuji and Sony. They might not be DSLRs, but that won't define "pro" either.

Tell that to my 5D Mark III, or my C100, or more importantly, my happy clients. They seem to be happy to pay for images imported via SD card. In fact, between the SD reader on my MBP and the one on the back of my iMac in my office, I don't even know where my card reader is...

Don't they already have the Air and the MB to intentionally cripple in the name of thinness and lightness? Going back to my pro cameras, do you realize how much crap they could have left off of those things that MOST people don't use? But they didn't? Because they are tools for pros, and not trophies in thinness?
 
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