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Leaked watchOS 4.1 GM Release Notes Confirm Apple Music Streaming, GymKit Support

Will the non LTE Gen 3 watches also stream music? Or is this a red dot watch only feature?
 
How about fixing the lag on the original watch? It was fine on watchOS 3, but watchOS 4 made the watch hardly usable!

This is how Apple always destroys just a couple of year old devices with laggy software.
 
kalafalas said:
“Addresses an issue that prevented Apple Watch (1st generation) from charging for some users“

oh thank GOD! I thought I was going crazy or my watch was going bad!
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Does this happen with all chargers or just some because i can charge fine with my 5W and 12W but not with my battery pack that outputs 2.4A. The battery pack works fine with my iphone just not with my 1st Gen Watch.
 
brushlee said:
... stand hours are "broken" somehow... For the month I have my AW3 my average Stand Hours are 13 (!!!) considering I am "office rat" and sit all day long - but trying to obey stand up reminders :oops:
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30 minutes after awakening the other morning, my watch said I had already been standing for 3 hours. I'm on Watch OS 3 still.
 
Both Watch OS 4 and iOS 11 have brought only frustrations to my life. I was happy with tech before those two releases. I haven't spent that much time at Apple Store and online chatting/forums since they released those ******, awful, extremely buggy operating systems.
 
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ThiGeever said:
Both Watch OS 4 and iOS 11 have brought only frustrations to my life. I was happy with tech before those two releases. I haven't spent that much time at Apple Store and online chatting/forums since they released those ******, awful, extremely buggy operating systems.
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Agreed! They are both terrible!

It seems an OS update has to be released yearly, and the newest OS seems to be super buggy. At the point when it's not super buggy and working great, a new update is released again! Repeat yearly.

Sometimes, the updates things are changed, just for the sake of changing something to justify the new update (and sometimes changed back again!).

iBooks had a great highlight feature in iOS10. Now gone in iOS11. I bet it will come back in iOS12. Apple will market it as the best way to highlight a book. Seriously, stop changing stuff for the sake of changing stuff!

Apple used to have great software and it was reliable. iOS11 and WatchOS4 has been awful so far!
 
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"Apple employees are currently testing Apple Pay Cash as part of iOS 11.1, but support for the feature could be held back until a later update."

Why do they even announce those things much too early then? If you can't release it within a reason time frame just don't talk about it yet...
 
BrettApple said:
Literally one of the only reasons I've stayed on OS3, that and I have a series 0 1st gen watch and I've heard battery life can get wrecked by OS 4. Hopefully that improves as iOS 11 does as well.

I use my watch to control my music on a very regular basis when outside or around the house, I only use a local music library too as I have done since the days of the iPod (of which I also still use, a 5th gen and a Classic). So it's a big deal to me.
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I think this is due to the new Apple Music streaming and we’ll be back with WatchOS 4.1
 
xpxp2002 said:
Good call. My first-gen watch usually doesn’t even make it through a 14-hour day since upgrading to watchOS 4. Under watchOS 3, I used to end the day with at least 40%.
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Got an Series 3 (GPS only) and I still have left 75% Battery when taking down the watch in the evening. So comparing to the battery life desaster on my 6S with iOS 11, the energy consumption on the watch is very good!
 
Aml216 said:
This. Can not understand why they wouldn’t allow this. I’d like all of my iMessages to sync on my phone, watch, and iPad.
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"Its just works" was the goal of the old Apple. Nowadays its, "Don't sweat the small stuff, we'll get to it when were not developing fantastic new functionality for teenagers."
 
MagicKnights said:
All my play lists I have stored locally on my watch work perfectly. This doesn’t seem as big an issue as people want it/are making it out to be
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It is a big issue when you actually understand what we are talking about.

We used to be able to control our iPhone music library from the watch. You could list all the artists/albums/song/playlists that were stored on the phone, from the watch. It effective became a brilliant remote control. I had my wireless headphones paired to my phone, and I could control all the music from my watch.

Now, I can only control the current album that is playing from the "Now Playing" app.
In music, I can only play music that's stored on my watch, and then only through headphones paired to my watch (which I don't want to do as they are paired to my phone)

I have a 256GB iPhone with stacks of music on it. I don't want to have to have 4 albums at a time on my watch....

So essentially, it's a massive backward step.
 
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MrGimper said:
It is a big issue when you actually understand what we are talking about.

We used to be able to control our iPhone music library from the watch. You could list all the artists/albums/song/playlists that were stored on the phone, from the watch. It effective became a brilliant remote control. I had my wireless headphones paired to my phone, and I could control all the music from my watch.

Now, I can only control the current album that is playing from the "Now Playing" app.
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Ok, now I see. Thank you for that explanation.

I never tried to go beyond my playlist on my Apple Watch. I'd go into Apple Music on my phone, search for a playlist and start it from the phone. Now, for the rest of my workout, I could go back and forth between songs on the playlist. I never tried anything further, so I didn't see any issues with the way it worked.

So, in my use case I didn't notice a difference. I can see that if you want to change playlists, you can't do it from the watch right now. Thanks for the explanation. Yes, this is a step backwards.
 
bbeagle said:
Ok, now I see. Thank you for that explanation.

I never tried to go beyond my playlist on my Apple Watch. I'd go into Apple Music on my phone, search for a playlist and start it from the phone. Now, for the rest of my workout, I could go back and forth between songs on the playlist. I never tried anything further, so I didn't see any issues with the way it worked.

So, in my use case I didn't notice a difference. I can see that if you want to change playlists, you can't do it from the watch right now. Thanks for the explanation. Yes, this is a step backwards.
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No worries.... it was a real "oh wow, that's so awesome" feature. And now the backward step is a seriously annoying one :(
 
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Is Match included in either the Apple Music or iCloud Music Library options?
I still use Match - because my physical collection was huge, and it's a good value if you don't care about listening to other music.
 
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MrGimper said:
It is a big issue when you actually understand what we are talking about.

We used to be able to control our iPhone music library from the watch. You could list all the artists/albums/song/playlists that were stored on the phone, from the watch. It effective became a brilliant remote control. I had my wireless headphones paired to my phone, and I could control all the music from my watch.

Now, I can only control the current album that is playing from the "Now Playing" app.
In music, I can only play music that's stored on my watch, and then only through headphones paired to my watch (which I don't want to do as they are paired to my phone)

I have a 256GB iPhone with stacks of music on it. I don't want to have to have 4 albums at a time on my watch....

So essentially, it's a massive backward step.
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Absolutely. It has turned the watch into little more than an iPod shuffle from 2006 or whenever it was released.

The ability to fully control my phones music functions and tell the time was all that I ever wanted or needed from the watch. For me everything else is a gimmick. I emailed Tim Cook re this and had no response (not that I was expecting one). There is no way in hell I am going to pay for an Apple Music subscription, new hardware and the costs of a data connection to get this functionality back. Apple have deliberately bricked the non LTE watches from a usability perspective. I just don’t live in apples fantasy world of permanent data connection.
 
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drshaws said:
Is Match included in either the Apple Music or iCloud Music Library options?
I still use Match - because my physical collection was huge, and it's a good value if you don't care about listening to other music.
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Isn't iCloud Music Library what used to be Match?
 
nt5672 said:
"Its just works" was the goal of the old Apple. Nowadays its, "Don't sweat the small stuff, we'll get to it when were not developing fantastic new functionality for teenagers."
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Yeah, back in the day, everyone was so happy with MobileMe's reliability. Or Final Cut Pro X's features and compatibility when it was released. Or iTunes Match... that worked flawlessly and didn't trash anyone's carefully organised libraries at first. Plus, iTunes has been a universally-loved, stable, efficiently-performing piece of software all these years that no one complains about at all. Mac OS X never had any bad releases before it became macOS, the brushed metal interfaces were lauded as the best UI designs ever, no one complained about any previous version of iOS, and their old laptops (especially those white plastic ones) were the pinnacle of durability. There were no iPods with easily scratched plastic screens, the syncing always worked flawlessly and there were never any battery recalls either........

Of course I jest and this covers but a fraction of all of the times that Apple hasn't met expectations (their own included).

There have been some very buggy iOS releases, and watchOS 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 all went through bugginess and bad performance at first. But I do agree that this year's releases are buggier than usual. I'm similarly very frustrated with the bugginess of iOS 11, macOS 10.13 (don't get me started - I'm now an expert and uploading sysdiagnose dumps to bugreport.apple.com) and watchOS 4.0.

But I'm also sure they'll get this stuff sorted out, like they do every year. To claim it's all just "functionality for teenagers" is a bit disingenuous, because iOS 11 introduced a lot of real productivity and functional enhancements, especially for iPad users (new multitasking, drag and drop, etc), while also making all of the changes required for the upcoming hardware, adding all of the new frameworks for machine learning, AR, etc. It's been a very big release. I imagine that when they get iOS 11.1 and watchOS 4.1 out the door (potentially next week), things will improve a lot. And man, hopefully macOS 10.13.1 sorts out a lot of bugs too, because it is far buggier than either iOS 11 or watchOS 4 at this point.
 
Since I don't have the watch yet I was wondering how do you update the iOS in watch through iTunes or using wifi directly on the watch?
 
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