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How is that any different to anything Ming has been saying for past 12 months? I read through the list and I dont find anything "new". ( Apart from the Game Controller which I still sort of doubt it happening)
 
Man, all i want is a refreshed macbook pro 13/14 so I can take advantage of a revised keyboard. I've been waiting to upgrade for years now but there is no way I'm going to give up and accept the disastrous butterfly keyboard version, especially with the high cost involved.
 
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To me an arm based MacBook is as useful as a chocolate tea pot! Microsoft have tried arm based windows it didn’t work! Without the software support it’s useless
 
the new iPad Air will be using the mini led screen, comes with full screen with no notch, not Face ID,but Touch ID under the screen

If I was dreaming, this machine would be in my dream. Why is Apple abandoning FaceID and implementing inscreen TouchID? I am all for it, just wondering why.
 
Ugh... just ordered a MacBook Air after waiting years for the keyboard to get fixed and now they mention this. I would much prefer a fan-less Mac that is slightly smaller than the 13 inch Air. Oh well. Has this rumor of a new 12 inch MacBook been around for a while because this is the first I’ve seen it?
 
Bah, finally a small compact laptop again from Apple and it's going to be crippled by an ARM processor that won't run anything.

Seriously, the software drop off for MacOS has been catastrophic from dropping 32 bit support and there was a decade's notice for that. Do they seriously think they can do it in a month for Intel to ARM and have it work???

We'll see no games outside of the App Store work at launch, and emulation of x86 on a thermally constrained ARM chip will be so slow as to be defacto useless.

It's a terrible, terrible idea.
 
But the ARM architecture may limit the Mac in many ways... Like the current programs been written in x86-x64 & even the BootCamp feature for those working with Windows-only programs...
How would the ARM achitecture limit the Mac?
Programs developed using XCode have been 64bit processors independent for the last 2 years. They’ll run natively on ARM at full speed just like they do today on X64.
The number of users who need Windows through bootcamp or any virtualisation technology will be able to run WoA which from next month will include a Linux kernel like the X64 version.
I run Windows 10 on my iPad Pro through Citrix when I need to and it does the job just fine. By the time iMac, Mac mini, MacBook Pro have moved to ARM (early next year) we won’t even have the debate anymore. However, I suspect we won’t see MacPro with ARM until late next year though. Xeon is a tougher nut to crack.
 
Man, all i want is a refreshed macbook pro 13/14 so I can take advantage of a revised keyboard. I've been waiting to upgrade for years now but there is no way I'm going to give up and accept the disastrous butterfly keyboard version, especially with the high cost involved.


That's what happens when the incompetence of Tim Cook is turning Apple into a snail ship with no problems solving mentality for developing extraordinary products.
 
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ARM 12" Macbook... I'd buy that! (if the price is right and by that I mean 1k including taxes)
But the ARM architecture may limit the Mac in many ways... Like the current programs been written in x86-x64 & even the BootCamp feature for those working with Windows-only programs...
The 12" was never the Macbook you used for bootcamp or Parallels. But, yes, in the beginning, the App-support will be limited, however that should be a rather short period. I would expect less than 6 month for all major apps (Microsoft, Adobe,...). Also you can do x86 on ARM for low perfomance apps. So, minor tools don't need instant ARM support.
 
kind of hard to keep the secrets anymore with more engineers and people working from home

I think it's safe to assume that these "leaks" have always been intentional and targeted. The "secrecy" and the rumor mill around Apple products have always been a rather cheap but very effective marketing strategy.

Sony very obviously is much better at keeping secrets than Apple: The Japanese tech giant built a whole car in secrecy and nobody had known anything about it when it was shown. Or look at the PS5: No leaks whatsoever, everything the world know about the next gen console was officially announced.
 
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ARM based Macbook > chromebook, especially if the price is right. If it has office and adobe cc at launch it'll be a hit.
The price will probably be $899

iPad 11 Pro $799
MacBook 12 $899
IPad Pro 12.9/MacBook Air 13 $999

I’d get one just to have a look at this price.
Hopefully there’ll be a cellular version .
 
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Didn’t we all ready had a mac book 12”. Model be for they went ahead and upgrade the MacBook Air 2018 and dropped the MacBook 12” model? Why bring some in back from the dead?
 
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How would the ARM achitecture limit the Mac?
Programs developed using XCode have been 64bit processors independent for the last 2 years. They’ll run natively on ARM at full speed just like they do today on X64.

Most applications aren't developed using Xcode. The Mac games library imploded during the 32bit to 64 bit transition and Xcode defaulted to 64 bit output for nearly a decade.

A good 2/3rds of all Mac software will never be compiled for ARM.

The number of users who need Windows through bootcamp or any virtualisation technology will be able to run WoA which from next month will include a Linux kernel like the X64 version.

WoA has a huge software drought, and the performance impact of the x86 virtualisation (and it's reliability) makes it nigh useless.
 
Didn’t we already have a macbook 12”. Model before they went ahead and upgrade the MacBook Air 2018 and dropped the MacBook 12” model? Why bring something back from the dead?
When googling ARM powered Macs on the web, you find references to it going all the way back to 2014. You’ll also find more serious rumours setting the launch date in late 18, early 19.
It’s very likely that Apple plans were always to start the ARM transition with the macbook 12“.
Something might have delayed those plans. It’s either Intel being late with the Y CPU used in the MacBook Air 2018 or Apple not being able to bump the A CPU power high enough on time, or both.
 
The iPad Air rumor seems very sketchy at best, unless this is the new iPad Pro max with larger screen that has been rumored. Under screen Touch ID and mini LED seems like way too high end tech to bother putting in a mid range 499 device which is where the iPad Air is currently placed in the lineup. Also Apple is all in with Face ID too so all this under screen Touch ID stuff seems like total nonsense especially with new iPhones 12 getting smaller notch.

I don't know. With late last year's new $329 iPad, the iPad Air value proposition became weaker. It adds a beefier CPU and has a better display (True Tone, wide color, more), but add a ~50% higher price.

Adding more features to the Air would make it clearer why both products exist.
 
I think the leaker got it wrong. I don't see Apple bringing back the "MacBook" line again. I see the MacBook Air getting the ARM processor next year.

When was the last time Apple killed a product name, only to bring it back in the future? I don't.

The last time was with the MacBook itself. The original incarnation came out in 2006 in the form of white (and later, briefly, black) plastic one inch thick laptops that were a thousand times easier to upgrade (RAM and or hard drive) than the PowerPC based iBook G4’s that preceded them. That line went on for a while with a slightly curvier version in 08/09. Then the 12” retina MacBook showed up in 2015.
 
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I think the leaker got it wrong. I don't see Apple bringing back the "MacBook" line again. I see the MacBook Air getting the ARM processor next year.

When was the last time Apple killed a product name, only to bring it back in the future? I don't.

Literally the MacBook is an example of a product that went away, then came back.

The MacBook existed between May 2006 and July 2011, and April 2015 and July 2019.
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I don’t think Apple will release a regular gamepad considering they just let PlayStation and Xbox into the game. Unless it is related to VR somehow maybe

When iTunes launched, it came with support for Rio 500, Creative Nomad Jukebox, and other popular players at the time.

Later that same year, Apple launched the iPod, and that obviously became the new focus of iTunes.
 
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I can't understand why some people think that a Macbook ARM can sort of float between iPads and Macs. This ARM Asomething will be a high(er) TDP effort and Mac OS X itself will be at least recompiled. This isn't something you do on the side.

I'm pretty certain that when and if Apple brings Mac OS X to ARM they will go all in and in one to two years every single Mac will be running some variation of Axx chips.
 
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