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My bigger concern, with no port, is CarPlay. Not many vehicles have wireless CarPlay, including mine. Maybe I'm missing something but how is that going to work without a port? Now you have to buy a new vehicle when a new phone comes out? 😂

That tells me they are going to make their own wireless adapter that actually works.
 
The benefits of having USB-C on iPhones would be huge. Being able to plug in a display and get crisp 4K 60FPS + pair a Bluetooth keyboard + mouse or trackpad would make these really powerful phones with amazing CPUs so much more useful especially if they are still going to call them "Pro" models. I'd happily plug my phone into a USB-C display to sit down and do some work on it. Especially if you were travelling light.
I agree that would be awesome, and would remove the need for a computer for a lot of people. But you wouldn't get that just by adding USB-C (you could do it with the lightning port if the software supported it) - it would require a big change to iOS which we haven't even had in iPad OS yet (ability to scale apps to any screen size) (assuming you don't just want to see the iPhone app stretched, like when running iPhone apps on iPad when it first came out). I don't think Apple want to do that, as they'd rather sell people Macs as well as iPhones.
 
How do you wirelessly charge a phone when it's, say, in your car being used for navigation (something I do every day to get to work).
I'm using a wireless car mound since I got the iPhoneX Using/charging the phone in the car has never been easier.
 
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How do you wirelessly charge a phone when it's, say, in your car being used for navigation (something I do every day to get to work). I like to take a lightning cable with me everywhere I go, and leave one in my car, and leave one at home, because otherwise I'd eventually not have one when I need it. I doubt wireless chargers would be cheap enough to just buy 3 of. They are also much more bulky than a simple cable.

I've been using iPhone holder with wireless charging in my car for a couple of years now, so that's not an issue. The charging rate is slower so if I run a couple of driving apps the wireless charging usually manages to keep the current level of battery, esp. on longer routes.

One use case that's no go for wirelss charging is charging on-a-go (eg. I keep battery in my pocket and can still use the phone even while walking) and charging-while-using (except if I keep the phone in a charging stand on my desk; so now I'll have to keep heavy battery when laying down Or buy a charging case?).
 
Not interested in wireless charging, personally; too inefficient of an exchange. With a typical loss of 10-15% over wired, how happy would you be if everything electrical in your house suddenly lost that much more just getting the energy from the wall to the device? To rephrase, how happy would you be if your electric bill went up 8-10% per month just because you didn’t feel like plugging anything in? In a world where the goal has been to maximize the efficiency of energy use, this seems out of place at best.
This is a slippery slope fallacy. Nobody is suggesting to have high power devices to go wireless. There is no benefit in having a wireless washing machine or tumble drier, and they absorb several, several times more energy than an iPhone. In fact, the energy absorbed by an iPhone is negligible, so a 10% loss is even more negligible.
 
How would it work with new EU regulations that will require USB-C charging ports on phones? Will Apple stop selling their products in Europe? :rolleyes:
 
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No point in adopting USB C on the iPhone. They should just wait until it’s port less. However they should have done this with the iPad too.
Agree on iPhone. Disagree on iPad. iPad needs USB. Especially iPad Pro.
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How would it work with new EU regulations that will require USB-C charging ports on phones? Will Apple stop selling their products in Europe? :rolleyes:
They sell the Apple Watch in Europe don’t they? It has cellular capabilities. So I think it will be fine if it’s port-less. Maybe smart connector to micro cable adapter.
 
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Got a link to one of those? The fastest wireless charger available is 10W, the iPhone 11 ships with an 18W charger in the box
On other phones that are not iPhones. What I’m saying is that when the iPhone goes portless the technology is there to do very fast wireless charging.


 
Oooooh so kinda like another Apple Watch charger, albeit smaller, not round and in whatever configuration the smart connector contacts will be in.

Hey, it’s MagSafe for the iPhone. We’ve come full circle.
 
To rephrase, how happy would you be if your electric bill went up 8-10% per month just because you didn’t feel like plugging anything in?

Charging a phone — or a tablet — won't even register on your electric bill. An iPad battery for example is around 40 Wh, if you charge it every day from 0 to 100 that would be 1.2kWh. Even if the loss is 70%, we are still talking about less than $1 (or equivalent) in charging costs per months. Basically, your iPad charging costs per months will be comparable with your fridge usage cost per day.
 
I find it useful in certain circumstances. I have a wireless charger on my nightstand light, so I just set down my phone and it charges overnight. No need to remember to plug in a cable. I also have a wireless portable chargiuing brick that makes it easy to charge my phone when traveling, no need to find a power outlet.
Look, I get some of the use cases. But you can’t even use the phone as it charges. That is insane to be expected as the main/only method for charging an iPhones. It destroys a lot of value.
 
If they would have switched to USB-C i would need a lighting cable to charge my iPad, an USB-C cable to charge my iPhone and an magnetic charger to charge my Apple Watch. Great...

Now I only carry my iPad charger and my Apple Watch charger when i (used to be able to) travel.
 
switching to usb-c doesn’t make your life that much better anyways. doesn’t make sense to dump billions of lighting accessories just so that you can carry one less cable.

wireless seems the way to go. just need to figure out a few things
 
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Well I'm sure Apple are being greedy, that's capitalism and Apple in particular, but I'm not sure it's fair to say that's what's going on here. Getting rid of a point of ingress and mechanical failure surely makes sense from a durability perspective? Besides, Apple don't own the Qi standard, unlike Lightning, so how would they be making money from this?
smart connector
 
Got a link to one of those? The fastest wireless charger available is 10W, the iPhone 11 ships with an 18W charger in the box

Only one that comes to mind is the 30W wireless charger that the Oneplus 8 Pro supports, other android phones can only wirelessly charge up to 15W
 
I really don’t like the idea of a portless iPhone. The combination of wireless charging + cables give me so many options. I can slow charge with cable for best battery longevity and overnight charging. I can use the wireless charger in between tasks at my desk for convenience. I can use the iPad wired charger when I need my phone to charge quickly. I use my MacBook Pro charger when I need my phone to charge really quickly.

Also, cables are so convenient and easy to bring along with you places. Both wireless chargers and the smart connectors would be bulky and inconvenient. Wireless chargers are slow and get hot too.
 
How would it work with new EU regulations that will require USB-C charging ports on phones? Will Apple stop selling their products in Europe? :rolleyes:
You can't have a proprietary port on your phone if the phone comes without any ports in the first place. 😉
 
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