Leaker: 'iPhone 12' to Ship With 20-Watt Power Adapter

[orev]

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I also believe the lengthening of cycles by carriers is what lulled Apple into just updating the iPhone design every three or more years.

Nah.

If anything, carriers shortened cycles by removing the two-year contract. People can upgrade their phone any time they want now, instead of waiting for a new contract promotion to get one for free or at a discount.

The longer cycles are because new designs take a long time to build the machinery and tooling required to manufacture and assemble them, especially with the huge numbers of units Apple needs to ship when a new model is launched. A three year cycle allows them to recoup the tooling investment for a longer time instead of having to retool again for another redesign.

 

[Scottsdale]

I think you should read what happened with carrier subsidies. Maybe you’re not aware. People now have a transparent idea of costs. This led to longer cycles by nearly everyone except the less than 1% that make up the tech community here. This is just fact. The only speculation is why Tim Cook allowed his whole design team to disband around Jon Ive? Why were so many so frustrated that Apple shelved their superior design decisions just because Apple could make more money selling the old design year after year. Even with Apple spending money on R&D, the vast majority of that has gone into new tech like AR and VR that will be great one day. But for right now, I prefer an iPhone with no notch and if I am paying out $1500+ every two years, I damn well want to see internal and external improvements to make me want to upgrade. Those have been lacking for years. Eliminate the notch, add a hole punch, or put a motorized motor at the top like One+ did last year. So many better alternatives from a hardware perspective other than SoC where Apple dominates.

I think this all stems from Tim Cook is not a product person. He is very well educated in the money and making shareholders and himself a lot of money. As most people who aren’t in the tech community just buy the new products. I also think focusing on services is a long run failure for Apple if it requires Apple to forget about new technologies and having out of the park victories with new products that don’t just improve health tracking or headphone listening. But that actually add new value to our lives like the iPhone originally did.

 

[MacBH928]

2020 iPhone is gonna be lightning, everything points to Apple going full wireless in the future without making a short stop to USB-C.

I don't get it, I thought Apple loved USB-C so much and forced to be the future port by going all USB-C in 2016...now they refuse to implement it in the iphone?

 

[cmaier]

I don't get it, I thought Apple loved USB-C so much and forced to be the future port by going all USB-C in 2016...now they refuse to implement it in the iphone?

Who said they would go all usb-c in 2016?

 

[MacBH928]

Who said they would go all usb-c in 2016?

they did on the mbp...to "push" its adoptness

 

[cmaier]

they did on the mbp...to "push" its adoptness

Who is “they?”

 

[Abazigal]

I don't get it, I thought Apple loved USB-C so much and forced to be the future port by going all USB-C in 2016...now they refuse to implement it in the iphone?

Seems like Apple sees the value of USB-C on laptops (to enable thinner and lighter form factors when you can do away with bulky HDMI ports, as well as enable use cases like e-GPUs and 5k displays) and even the ipad (since the ipad is tending towards being a laptop replacement).

Less so on the iphone when the lightning port is already thinner and reversible, and many of the benefits are lost on the consumer, such as data transfer. Many people are not plugging flash drives into their smartphones, nor are they hooking it up to a USB-dock to get a desktop setup.

The key benefits you lose out are faster charging speeds and being able to standardise your use of cables.

But the more likely reason is that if Apple is planning to remove the charging port altogether, may as well just stick with lightning all the way till it’s gone altogether, than get flak for switching to USB-C, then getting flak again for removing it.

 

[MacBH928]

Who is “they?”

Apple...Apple went all USB-C on macbooks to send a message that this is the port of the future and the only port you need. They axed the extremely popular USB-A, that one that is still more popular than USB-C.

But the more likely reason is that if Apple is planning to remove the charging port altogether, may as well just stick with lightning all the way till it’s gone altogether, than get flak for switching to USB-C, then getting flak again for removing it.

I just seriously doubt Apple will go completely portless as in not even electric charging. Even if it is going to happen I bet its years away so implement USB-C can only benefit them.

 

[cmaier]

Apple...Apple went all USB-C on macbooks to send a message that this is the port of the future and the only port you need. They axed the extremely popular USB-A, that one that is still more popular than USB-C.

So, according to you, by replacing USB-A with USB-C on *macs*, Apple “sent a message” that iphones and all other devices should have USB-C ports?

 

[MacBH928]

So, according to you, by replacing USB-A with USB-C on *macs*, Apple “sent a message” that iphones and all other devices should have USB-C ports?

Wasn't this the idea? the 1 port that rules them all? The magnificent USB-C? The only port you need? Plus shipping iphone with USB-C means less cables and faster transfer rate. Imagine having 1 USB-C cable to charge iphone, macbook, Samsung galaxy, or your Xbox controller...but than a wire dedicated to each device.

 

[compwiz1202]

That is so true. If Apple make the all wireless charging leap first, we'll be the ones suffering in these sorts of scenarios for years whilst the public charging infrastructure catches up. Meanwhile, other people can plug their phones in happily as before.

Definitely need to work on speed, range and public availability of wireless charging before I would go portless. And then there's the CarPlay Issue.

 

[Abazigal]

Wasn't this the idea? the 1 port that rules them all? The magnificent USB-C? The only port you need? Plus shipping iphone with USB-C means less cables and faster transfer rate. Imagine having 1 USB-C cable to charge iphone, macbook, Samsung galaxy, or your Xbox controller...but than a wire dedicated to each device.

The idea was to eventually go wireless completely with the iphone. Not replace one cable with another.