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If its gonna be this amazing in 2021, imagine when I finally upgrade to the iPhone 15 in 2023? I was reading an article I believe it was on the Verge that noted, even the 4 year old iPhone X is still faster than this years Samsung Galaxy Ultra 20. I am starting to think Apple is really trying to bring the iPhone to a market where it can be your only device in your creative studio for capturing video and photos for a vast majority.
 
Just needs a Nikon or Canon Full Frame sensor and it will be golden !


The next-generation iPhone 12 lineup coming in fall 2020 isn't out yet, but Fudge (@choco_bit), a leaker who sometimes shares information on upcoming Apple devices, today offered up details on what Apple has in store for the 2021 iPhone 13's camera setup.

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A simple design drawing depicts a device with a four camera array, which Fudge claims will have the following features:
  • 64-megapixel wide-angle lens with 1x optical zoom and 6x digital zoom
  • 40-megapixel telephoto lens with 3x-5x optical zoom and 15-20x digital zoom
  • 64-megapixel anamorphic lens for video capture (2.1:1)
  • 40-megapixel .25x min ultra wide-angle lens with optical reverse zoom
  • LiDAR 4.0
The leaker says that the information should be taken with a "Huuuuugggeeeee amount of 🧂," suggesting the source of the rumor is questionable or it's so early that the camera setup could change. Apple makes plans for iPhones well ahead of when a new device is released, but plans change and are tweaked and there's quite a ways to go before the iPhone 13's final design needs to be nailed down.

The rumored iPhone 13 camera is wildly different from what's in the iPhone 11, and while Apple does make major camera improvements each year, the company has thus far shied away from super high megapixel cameras in its iPhones.

The iPhone 11 Pro features a 12-megapixel wide-angle camera, a 12-megapixel ultra wide-angle camera, and a 12-megapixel telephoto camera.

There have been some rumors indicating the iPhone 12 models coming in 2020 could get a 64-megapixel wide-angle camera along with a telephoto lens that supports 3x optical zoom (up from 2x), but we've heard surprisingly little about the camera technology.

Most rumors have focused on the inclusion of 3D camera technology in the iPhone 12, which is expected to be similar to the LiDAR Scanner feature that Apple introduced in 2020 iPad Pro models.

In 2020, higher-end iPhone 12 models are expected to continue to feature triple-lens camera setups, while the lower-end iPhone 12 models will continue to offer dual-lens camera setups. The 2021 iPhones will probably be similar, with the best camera technology reserved for the more expensive devices.

Article Link: Leaker Shares Details on 'iPhone 13' Camera
 
"...offered details.." NOT "offered up details"

Anyway, still that huge notch?
Samsung hasn't had it for a while.
Matter of fact wasn't it only for one generation, maybe two, on the Samsung phones?
Now about to be fourth generation for iphones....lame!
1. iphone X,
2. iphone X(sx, sx-max, sr)
3. iphone 11 (all three) and
4. soon to be iphone 2020 whatever they call it.

Apple needs to:
1. redesign the notification center. It's ridiculous.
2. add haptic feedback to the keyboard, and better yet, make it possible to customize different intensities to your heart's content.
Those who are concerned with battery can just turn it off.
3. make it possible to adjust volume for independent apps/settings and not this general thing they're doing, forcing you to do it while the thing is being played, such as separate volume control for keyboard volume, music volume, ring volume, system volume...hey...much like Android.
4. add suggestions from the address book when you're dialing a phone number. Common now Apple.
5. make it possible to customize the texting app in every conceivable way. Font size, bubble size shape color.
6. make it possible to schedule a message to be sent at a certain time/date.
7. make it possible to move the icons anywhere you want to.
8. make it possible to stitch screen shots right there as you're taking them.
9. Use an OS-wide clipboard.
10. Give us an option to NOT go to the next email but back to inbox after deleting an email.
 


The next-generation iPhone 12 lineup coming in fall 2020 isn't out yet, but Fudge (@choco_bit), a leaker who sometimes shares information on upcoming Apple devices, today offered up details on what Apple has in store for the 2021 iPhone 13's camera setup.

allegediphone13camera.jpg

A simple design drawing depicts a device with a four camera array, which Fudge claims will have the following features:
  • 64-megapixel wide-angle lens with 1x optical zoom and 6x digital zoom
  • 40-megapixel telephoto lens with 3x-5x optical zoom and 15-20x digital zoom
  • 64-megapixel anamorphic lens for video capture (2.1:1)
  • 40-megapixel .25x min ultra wide-angle lens with optical reverse zoom
  • LiDAR 4.0
The leaker says that the information should be taken with a "Huuuuugggeeeee amount of 🧂," suggesting the source of the rumor is questionable or it's so early that the camera setup could change. Apple makes plans for iPhones well ahead of when a new device is released, but plans change and are tweaked and there's quite a ways to go before the iPhone 13's final design needs to be nailed down.

The rumored iPhone 13 camera is wildly different from what's in the iPhone 11, and while Apple does make major camera improvements each year, the company has thus far shied away from super high megapixel cameras in its iPhones.

The iPhone 11 Pro features a 12-megapixel wide-angle camera, a 12-megapixel ultra wide-angle camera, and a 12-megapixel telephoto camera.

There have been some rumors indicating the iPhone 12 models coming in 2020 could get a 64-megapixel wide-angle camera along with a telephoto lens that supports 3x optical zoom (up from 2x), but we've heard surprisingly little about the camera technology.

Most rumors have focused on the inclusion of 3D camera technology in the iPhone 12, which is expected to be similar to the LiDAR Scanner feature that Apple introduced in 2020 iPad Pro models.

In 2020, higher-end iPhone 12 models are expected to continue to feature triple-lens camera setups, while the lower-end iPhone 12 models will continue to offer dual-lens camera setups. The 2021 iPhones will probably be similar, with the best camera technology reserved for the more expensive devices.

Article Link: Leaker Shares Details on 'iPhone 13' Camera
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Thinner, as a design objective at Apple, seems to have been replaced by camera count.
 
  • 64-megapixel wide-angle lens with 1x optical zoom and 6x digital zoom
  • 40-megapixel telephoto lens with 3x-5x optical zoom and 15-20x digital zoom
  • 64-megapixel anamorphic lens for video capture (2.1:1)
  • 40-megapixel .25x min ultra wide-angle lens with optical reverse zoom
  • LiDAR 4.0
This info is full of inconveniences.
Anyone watch
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products and development knows this is not how
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do business. Dont get to exited from this info. It is all wrong.
 
Anyway, still that huge notch?
Samsung hasn't had it for a while.
Matter of fact wasn't it only for one generation, maybe two, on the Samsung phones?

Does Samsung phones have advanced face recognition? Do you think Samsung could included it on a smaller notch than the expected one on the iPhone 12?

1. redesign the notification center. It's ridiculous.

I can’t say for everyone, but I prefers the iOS notifications (and a lot of people more, I have seen it on other discussions)


If you want a no-notch phone, and all that OS features you mentioned... why don’t you just buy a Samsung phone?
 
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It is definitely too soon. At this stage Apple is surely trying multiple solutions, and this could just be one of them.
I don’t like the idea of a switch of camera while composing a frame on a phone, and I like the smooth software way Apple used on iPhone 11 Pro, so above all I hope they will keep the same principles in the future: the user just have to compose the frame, while the iPhone is taking care of the camera to use.
 
“Fancy being an iPhone camera designer?

With the new camera designer toolkit, you can design the next unapologetically massive camera sensor“
 

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This one doesn’t even make sense. The ultrawide is already wider than just about any rectilinear lens available for DSLRs. (Canon sells a $3000 lens that goes slightly wider). I don’t even know that it is possible in any meaningful sense to have a .25x zoom factor compared to the normal wide angle. Even the .5x has quite a lot of geometric distortion that has to be corrected in software.

I suppose it could have a fisheye lens like a GoPro, but I don’t know if that is even practical at the small sizes of iPhone lenses.
 
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“Holy balls Batman” said me, the photographer guy.

If Apple really is going all-in on the iPhone Pro line for photography and going after real professional cameras then that would be insane. Lots of things will be possible with future hardware, especially when combined with computational photography that has machine learning, than we never thought possible in a phone. If this is real it would be like it was dropped straight out of science fiction. I can only dream but can’t help but feel hyped for future iPhone models now. This thing will be all screen on the front, no ports, and all cameras on the back with a CPU as fast as a newer MacBook Pro. Weird!
 
64-megapixel anamorphic lens for video capture (2.1:1)... If that would be true, it's just matter of time until someone starts filming vertically with that one.

Anyway, 4 lenses on the "stove" and 5th LIDAR separate that also protrudes from the body of phone... I don't think so...
 
Is anyone else wondering why the camera isn't square when photos and videos have flat sides? Someone explain this mystery to me!

For a while now I’ve questioned and critiqued the stupid fad towards circular icons/avatars which, I assume, was born in part (or all) from a lot of the iOS7 forced-change goofiness. Circular signal strength “bars“ (when the prior ones were not only easier to discern but took up less space), circular dialer buttons (when the prior buttons provided more real estate and were easier to hit), circular-template-vector-driven icons (with no discernible improvement in function as far as I could tell), circular meaningless spheres for the Game Center (again just to be different and to distance Apple as far as possible from migraine-inducing green felt), etc. Why circular when a square, which takes up as much space, essentially, offers you that much more helpful real estate.

So your comment is all I need to point to when offering the above critiques...why haven’t Apple moved towards circular images/photos? Because some things are just naturally better a certain way no matter how much new fashion/form Jony would like to see over function.
 
I find this hard to believe...if only for the case designs. A square cutout plus an extra jut out of the bottom for lidar - I just don’t know how you can make that look decent.

The higher pixel count seems like a possible way they could go (basically supersampling the image and producing 16-20MP images) IMO I don’t think they’ll go this way as higher MP means more memory/processing power need for AR applications and just general photo applications. The same size sensor with a lower MP count would give them way more processing time per frame and allow them to process data from multiple cameras to construct AR scenes. Plus normal photo taking on the iPhone is multiple exposures so they still need to be able to process 10 or so frames at the tap of the camera shutter (in addition to saving the same shot from the ultrawide camera if you have the setting turned on.)
 
Serious question here, why not just have one HUGE lens, instead of 2, 3 or 4? It really looks daft, just like the notch.
One huge lens means a bump even more significant than the current one. Here’s an article that explains why, when you’re talking about cameras the size of phones, why more is better.
If Apple really is going all-in on the iPhone Pro line for photography and going after real professional cameras then that would be insane.
I agree. Of course, in my PERFECT world, the leading camera makers design quality barrels that connect via USB-C or lightning to a phone providing the higher quality of a HUGE CCD and better glass with the compute capability of Apple’s impressive A-series processors. There’s SO many problems with that, though, so we’ll likely be stuck with ”camera software” running on suboptimal silicon for the foreseeable future.
 
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