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I always thought it had something do with squared sides of the 12 as to why they changed the leather. It could have also just been cost cutting. I don’t really care about finding the same leather they used as much as finding a case that’s as thin and light as the apple leather case with the same fit. I want the leather to patina of course. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the bluebonnet case.
How thin it is is also connected to the leather used. A piece of full grain leather can only be so thin. If you want really thin you have to take away layers and then it isn’t full grain anymore.

Other brands don’t have the brand name Apple to lean on so if they write their leather is top grain, for example, it would cost them customers. Just see people’s reaction to the recent pictures of “top grain” on the box but full grain on the site. Apple never even wrote what grade/type of leather they used, they didn’t need to.

“They're made from specially tanned and finished European leather, so the outside feels soft to the touch and develops a natural patina over time.”
 
I always thought it had something do with squared sides of the 12 as to why they changed the leather. It could have also just been cost cutting. I don’t really care about finding the same leather they used as much as finding a case that’s as thin and light as the apple leather case with the same fit. I want the leather to patina of course. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the bluebonnet case.

Yeah I thought the aging process of the 12 and above leather cases were due to the squared off edges, but it’s clear as well that they added some coating on the leather that slows aging and then just makes it look terrible. Could be cheaper leather, which wouldn’t surprise me given the direction Apple seems to be going.

I am with you on not finding the exact same leather as the 11pros and below, but finding the fit and thinness of the Apple leather. Hopefully that’s Blue Bonnet. I will for sure keep you posted on my findings.
 
How thin it is is also connected to the leather used. A piece of full grain leather can only be so thin. If you want really thin you have to take away layers and then it isn’t full grain anymore.

Other brands don’t have the brand name Apple to lean on so if they write their leather is top grain, for example, it would cost them customers. Just see people’s reaction to the recent pictures of “top grain” on the box but full grain on the site. Apple never even wrote what grade/type of leather they used, they didn’t need to.

“They're made from specially tanned and finished European leather, so the outside feels soft to the touch and develops a natural patina over time.”

It’s not the thinness of the leather is it, but the thinness of the over all case. I am not sure that the full grain is what makes the case thicker, just the other materials use. Maybe I am wrong, but I don’t find the leather in Bullstrap or Andar that much thicker, but it’s the shell that’s thicker.

Your totally on point with the name Apple being the reason no one the leather.
 
Which year did the crap leather come?

Yep it was 2020 witht the iPhone 12s. Funny enough we are just now getting the the covid phones, so that can't be the excuse.

So it looks like at least 1 of the good leather cases was made from ECCO leather?
 
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Yep it was 2020 witht the iPhone 12s. Funny enough we are just now getting the the covid phones, so that can't be the excuse.

So it looks like at least 1 of the good leather cases was made from ECCO leather?
Or they brought ECCO onboard for the next model and had a contract with previous leather partner that hadn’t ended yet. ECCO is pure trash, their shoes definitely don’t patina and it’s low quality leather. Sure they could have different levels of quality, but the ECCO shoes sold in Sweden all have corrected grain trash leather with a vinyl coating over to make them look uniform and shiny.

I tried giving some high end shoe care to my then wife’s Ecco shoes and the leather didn’t absorb the shoe creme, it was all plastic on top.
 
Having used the decoded case for a week. Not sure if or how it will patina. ATM any marks can be rubbed off using a cloth.
 
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Or they brought ECCO onboard for the next model and had a contract with previous leather partner that hadn’t ended yet. ECCO is pure trash, their shoes definitely don’t patina and it’s low quality leather. Sure they could have different levels of quality, but the ECCO shoes sold in Sweden all have corrected grain trash leather with a vinyl coating over to make them look uniform and shiny.

I tried giving some high end shoe care to my then wife’s Ecco shoes and the leather didn’t absorb the shoe creme, it was all plastic on top.

I bet you’re right. That’s the trash we have now.
 
Or they brought ECCO onboard for the next model and had a contract with previous leather partner that hadn’t ended yet. ECCO is pure trash, their shoes definitely don’t patina and it’s low quality leather. Sure they could have different levels of quality, but the ECCO shoes sold in Sweden all have corrected grain trash leather with a vinyl coating over to make them look uniform and shiny.

I tried giving some high end shoe care to my then wife’s Ecco shoes and the leather didn’t absorb the shoe creme, it was all plastic on top.
Ecco used to be super high quality, but unfortunately has degraded in quality over the years. Sad.
 
Ecco used to be super high quality, but unfortunately has degraded in quality over the years. Sad.
Based on prices I cannot see how that was ever true. Doesn't matter if you own your own tannery, quality is way more expensive than they ever charged for a pair of shoes. Maybe our definitions on quality differs.
 
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Based on prices I cannot see how that was ever true. Doesn't matter if you own your own tannery, quality is way more expensive than they ever charged for a pair of shoes. Maybe our definitions on quality differs.
Did your read my post? I said in the past they most definitely used extremely high quality leathers. Probably 10 years plus ago. I have $400 pair of World Class Ecco Golf (purchased around 2005) shoes that still look awesome and are the best golf shoe you can buy back then and still better than anything in the current market. Unfortunately, they make nothing like that anymore. They had shoes/boots just as good.

Do you think Mephisto is bad too? They are still handmade in France and their high end leather shoes are some of the best and you will pay for it too? :)
 
Looking at the decoded as an Apple leather replacement, like my cases quite thin anyone using one of these as a direct replacement?
 
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Do you think you will be keeping the Decoded case or go with another brand?
Ok after using it for a day I’ll be keeping the decoded case. Not sure what changed after a full day of use other than to say it’s grown on me. I haven’t tried them all but I feel confident that it’s currently the best leather option for what I was looking for (a close alternative to apples old cases with similar coverage and thinness and minimal branding)

Funny enough I think I’ll be keeping the finewoven also to wear sometimes as well. It’s an indulgence to have both at about $100 dollars but I like them both for different looks and feels
 
Ok after using it for a day I’ll be keeping the decoded case. Not sure what changed after a full day of use other than to say it’s grown on me. I haven’t tried them all but I feel confident that it’s currently the best leather option for what I was looking for (a close alternative to apples old cases with similar coverage and thinness and minimal branding)

Funny enough I think I’ll be keeping the finewoven also to wear sometimes as well. It’s an indulgence to have both at about $100 dollars but I like them both for different looks and feels
Oh great thanks for letting me know your experience.
 
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I ordered a Ryan London case for my 15 Pro about a week ago. Awaiting an email with a shipping date "this month". Does anybody have a better idea than me of when they'll start shipping? Thank you!
 
I ordered a Ryan London case for my 15 Pro about a week ago. Awaiting an email with a shipping date "this month". Does anybody have a better idea than me of when they'll start shipping? Thank you!
Same here. They said they are shipping “mid” October. Sent me an email also after I inquired.
 
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I ordered a Ryan London case for my 15 Pro about a week ago. Awaiting an email with a shipping date "this month". Does anybody have a better idea than me of when they'll start shipping? Thank you!
Same, ordered a week ago waiting on some kind of update. I have a Mujjo which I’ll be returning, hopefully my RL comes in before the return window on my Mujjo closes!
 
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Anyone try a Grams28 case? Impressed that they use Badalassi Carlo leather. I know the numbers on the back aren’t everyone’s cup of tea but I’m curious how the quality of this case stacks up to other options.

 
We have different understanding on what quality shoes are then. Given the construction method being up to par (Goodyear welted) then a $400 pair of shoes is still budget and corners have been cut somewhere.

Don’t know what Mephisto is, but I am generally well versed in high quality classic footwear. Maybe Mephisto doesn’t qualify.
 
Anyone try a Grams28 case? Impressed that they use Badalassi Carlo leather. I know the numbers on the back aren’t everyone’s cup of tea but I’m curious how the quality of this case stacks up to other options.

I saw a YouTube video and it looked like the sides are rubber and the back is leather so that ruled it out for me. Also it makes your phone look like it’s in prison.

 
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