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My spouse does that every time I speak đź¤Just ignore what doesn’t interest you and focus on what does interest you. Very simple formula for balance.
My spouse does that every time I speak đź¤Just ignore what doesn’t interest you and focus on what does interest you. Very simple formula for balance.
In your mind, treat everything as a rumor?Basically I'm wondering if there is a way to enjoy this site but not feel like MacRumors is the one doing the Keynote, and letting Apple themselves do what they do best?
In your mind, treat everything as a rumor?
I mean, I don't think Arn called the site/forums MacFacts for a reason. 🙂
A lot of people on MR care about stuff that really shouldn't be obsessed about. That is why you see the kind of articles you do.I.m.o. these are the worst unnecessary front page articles: "Apple today stopped signing iOS 26.4, so iPhone users who have updated to iOS 26.4.1 are no longer able to downgrade to the earlier version of iOS"
Why would anyone care?
Nevertheless, I still like this website.
Funny thing is that kind of article was actually informative/helpful to me when I would drop back a version after installing the latest iOS update if it was buggy. If I knew Apple stopped signing an older version I'd think twice about upgrading unless I knew I could go back to either what I was already running or something that I knew worked. I remember going back to 18.7.2 from 26.0.1 on my iPhone 14 Pro and later that day Apple stopped signing 18.7.2. A lot of people in the iOS forum were disappointed they couldn't roll back to 18 from 26. Not the most exciting of articles, but weirdly, the iOS signings I've been actually interested in.I.m.o. these are the worst unnecessary front page articles: "Apple today stopped signing iOS 26.4, so iPhone users who have updated to iOS 26.4.1 are no longer able to downgrade to the earlier version of iOS"
Why would anyone care?
Nevertheless, I still like this website.
Yeah there must be some interest in it or they wouldn't post it. I get it especially in your case because a lot of people disliked iOS 26 and wanted to go back. Still, why would someone go back in the case of iOS 26.4.1 and iOS 26.4? I still find that hard to see.Funny thing is that kind of article was actually informative/helpful to me when I would drop back a version after installing the latest iOS update if it was buggy. If I knew Apple stopped signing an older version I'd think twice about upgrading unless I knew I could go back to either what I was already running or something that I knew worked. I remember going back to 18.7.2 from 26.0.1 on my iPhone 14 Pro and later that day Apple stopped signing 18.7.2. A lot of people in the iOS forum were disappointed they couldn't roll back to 18 from 26. Not the most exciting of articles, but weirdly, the iOS signings I've been actually interested in.
Agree, but Apple has a funny way of sometimes breaking stuff that used to work lol. I’m always amazed when I see people reporting errors and 9 out of 10 times I can’t reproduce what they are complaining about. Those people will go back a version. Hang out in the iOS forum long enough and you’ll see reports of all sorts of gremlins for every iOS point release. 99% of people may never notice or be affected, but the 1% will want to revert back until Apple fixes it which usually takes another point release.Yeah there must be some interest in it or they wouldn't post it. I get it especially in your case because a lot of people disliked iOS 26 and wanted to go back. Still, why would someone go back in the case of iOS 26.4.1 and iOS 26.4? I still find that hard to see.
Contributors, and non contributors add the same value, so yeah, your comment is a little harsh. Everyone is welcome, no-one is better than anyone else. If they have been coming here for 20 years, brilliant. They have helped Arn make this a great place. Sharing their viewpoint, is what has made these forums great.It has about as much relevance as your 20 years of reading MacRumors news does to your actual complaint.
I'm not trying to be offensive, so I apologize if I am coming across that way. But in 20 years, MacRumors has meant so much to you that you've never even gotten out of 'newbie' status. 20 years here and no one here knew it.
And yet you're bidding a fond farewell?
Just register the complaint and move on. This isn't an airport. You don't need to announce your departure to strangers.
As many have pointed out, the sub thread is -site and forum feedback. Let's be friendly, instead of bitter and toxic. Noted that those type of comments, are from members have have amassed ten's of thousands of comments. I don't see a leader table, where that gives you a sense of entitlement, it just means you've spent a awful long time, chatting!Normally I don't do line by line replies but since you decided to make this a public proclamation instead of sending a private message to MR I think it's fair. So many of your reasons for leaving are based on how you personally use the site.
90% of the time this doesn't interest me, 10% of the time it's perfect timing when I'm already looking for something and it's helped me to save a decent amount over the years. It isn't useless, it wouldn't be there if it didn't work.
Everyone has a different way of gaining information. This doesn't appeal to you but it does others.
They may not directly have to do with Apple but, after 20 years, you should know by now that they often relate to Apple. Netflix and AMC are on AppleTV, Samsung is a direct competitor and also supplier, Instagram is something we can interact with using our Apple devices. I think those are all relevant.
Again, people gain information in different ways. MR obviously has a decent success rate with this type of article.
Valid criticism. MR should be above clickbait headlines. It's either that or sloppy writing/editing.
Look, I don't blame MR for putting out Top Stories recaps that I don't find useful, but someone like you who wants a once/day recap might. At the end of the day remember that MR has to make money. There are real people behind the scenes that make this possible and they have a livelihood to earn, as most of us do. I can't fault them for the different ways they go about producing income when there are so many really good ad blockers out there. A news site/forum of this size (one of the largest) can't exist without many people working full time on it.
I'm glad you added your criticism and that @arn graciously and expeditiously deployed a solution, I just think it should've been done privately if you weren't planning on staying around.
I don't have a problem with anyone sharing their feedback. Throughout this thread the issue has never been about the feedback.Contributors, and non contributors add the same value, so yeah, your comment is a little harsh. Everyone is welcome, no-one is better than anyone else. If they have been coming here for 20 years, brilliant. They have helped Arn make this a great place. Sharing their viewpoint, is what has made these forums great.
Best wishes @numenorian
Now hang on… I went back and re-re-read the OP.I don't have a problem with anyone sharing their feedback. Throughout this thread the issue has never been about the feedback.
It's about announcing your departure after 20 years to a group of strangers with the expectation of receiving some sort of fond goodbye.
As to contributions. 20 years of lurking, staying silent and not contributing has added…what?
Why bother to announce your departure if you aren't intending to receive some friendly goodbyes?Now hang on… I went back and re-re-read the OP.
There is nowhere that they ask for, imply or write of, and I quote you:
"the expectation of receiving some sort of fond goodbye."
That is purely your interpretation, yet based on that you felt compelled to wade in and frankly insult the OP. Thereby opening the door for a general pile on — even though @arn handled it with his customary grace.
Oh MacRumours… never change. Please.
Edit: MR has a Front Page? Crikey! I just go straight to the relevant Forums I engage with. 🤣
Did you miss they posted to Forums > MacRumors Community > Site and Forum Feedback?Normally I don't do line by line replies but since you decided to make this a public proclamation instead of sending a private message to MR I think it's fair. So many of your reasons for leaving are based on how you personally use the site.
Ad revenue for 1. After rereading the OP post, it appears to me, the intention wasn’t to get a fond farewell, but to leave feedback, in the appropriate thread.I don't have a problem with anyone sharing their feedback. Throughout this thread the issue has never been about the feedback.
It's about announcing your departure after 20 years to a group of strangers with the expectation of receiving some sort of fond goodbye.
As to contributions. 20 years of lurking, staying silent and not contributing has added…what?
All I can say then is that we see it differently.Ad revenue for 1. After rereading the OP post, it appears to me, the intention wasn’t to get a fond farewell, but to leave feedback, in the appropriate thread.
Yep.I'm just happy it's still a normal forum and not in Discord or Reddit some other awfulness.
I really miss the days of forums reigning supreme.
THISSSSSSS. If MR turned into a discord server I would no longer be a member / reader.I'm just happy it's still a normal forum and not in Discord or Reddit some other awfulness.
I really miss the days of forums reigning supreme.
Isn't that the truth! Being a big car modifier -- it's sad to see forums have been fading away. I DO NOT want to go to facebook groups to get my info thank you very much.Yep.
I've been transitioning *BACK* to forums. Sadly, a few I used to frequent before Reddit/Facebook Groups/Discord took over have died. Either truly gone, or down to just one or two people left posting once every couple weeks.
so I just looked into this, and apparently you can't really leave, as in you can't close your account, so what's that all about?
Use the contact us link and request your account to be cancelledso I just looked into this, and apparently you can't really leave, as in you can't close your account, so what's that all about?
Good grief you are so wrong about the the feedback from Op and the response from Arn. All feedback is helpful and table-stakes for a professional business person is what you call "holding their tongue." In fact, Arn did not "hold their tongue." Arn clearly appreciated the negative feedback, given their second response was to show how they used the negative feedback to improve MR.Why bother to announce your departure if you aren't intending to receive some friendly goodbyes?
Do you routinely announce your exit in public places where everyone there is a stranger to you?
There was no point in adding the fact that they were leaving. OP stated that they added the 20 years part to give legitimacy to their criticism, but if a criticism is valid that shouldn't matter. OP even later on said they probably shouldn't have added the leaving part.
As far as Arn, he's essentially running a business. This website is a part of what pays his bills. As a business owner, he held his tongue.
I'm not a business owner and have no financial investment in MacRumors.
I hold to my opinion on the matter.