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I can't see Dicaprio as Jobs although he's a pretty good actor now. I'm not sure makeup could help him look the part as he doesn't have the frame or facial features.

For me if an actor is portraying the life of someone, especially someone that is still fresh on peoples mind and remembers what he looks like then for me he's going to have favor the guy he's playing.

Ashton had the look but can't act.

If they want to do a Jobs movie IMO they should get a not so known actor that favors Jobs but honestly I don't think a Jobs movie is that interesting for the big screen.
 
When is Hollyweird going to figure out that outside of the tech world, Jobs was not that interesting a guy. He was an arrogant ego manic, who led one of the most successful companies in history.

He founded one of the most iconic companies of the last fifty years; had it take away from him, spent years in exile, and gained it back again. And the second time, took it from the brink of death to be the most successful company of its day-- one that inspired so many fans it was practically a cult. Was "the guy" who changed the computer business, the animation business, the music business and the phone business. WAS an arrogant egomaniac, a perfectionist, a tyrant, a purist, a charismatic, the inventor of the "reality distortion field", one of the two or three most famous business men (to the average person) of the last 50 years. Yeah, he was not interesting at all. :rolleyes:
 
If Leo gets this then he probably will win the oscar

Why? He's a good actor, but not that great compared with others in the field. And why probably? I hope winning an Oscar will be based on the judgement from colleagues actors and directors judging your performance based on, well... based on your performance despite on one's celebrity status.

That is, if winning an Oscar should have some kind of value.....
 
I don't see why he should look like a Steve Jobs clone in first place. It's not a documentary and I've seen nobody get overly whiny over the fact that Leonardo DiCaprio doesn't exactly look like Howard Hughes, J. Edgar Hoover or Jordan Belfort.
 
Interesting that i read very recently (just after Wolf was released), that Jonah and Leo had pretty much said they'll be working together again for their next film.
 
He founded one of the most iconic companies of the last fifty years;

Indeed, one of the, so it's not that unique.

had it take away from him, spent years in exile,

Exile? He was not Napoleon send off to a prison on an remote Island with a golden mask attached to his face you know.... Exile? He got himself a well payed job by buying a company himself and transforming it into a new company called Next....

and gained it back again.

Not 'gained', Apple bought the entire company Next, with it came Steve...

And the second time, took it from the brink of death

With, at that time, Jobs himself as head of Apple....makes one wonder about who was part in the brink of being death situation doesn't it?

be the most successful company of its day--

True. But i.m.h.o. it's a bit naive thinking Jobs was mainly responsible for this, he had, at the right time at the right moment, brilliant insides, but without the brilliant people surrounding him he couldn't have pulled it off to begin with. At the time Jobs was, as a metaphor, like Jim Morrison, brilliant, but without his even equal brilliancy band-members Morrison would have been considered an 'ok / good' poet, nothing more. It's the nuances that counts.

one that inspired so many fans it was practically a cult.

Nope, he didn't 'inspire' the iPod did. This is where Apple gained success with. The Steve Job cultus was something that came along as the success of Apple grew further on.

Was "the guy" who changed the computer business,

You give all the credits to one that gave the green light, Jobs wasn't the person that came with the brilliant designs of the revolutionary looking iMacs, nor did Jobs created the iPod, he gave the green light to those who did. A small but necessary nuance, especially when considering you leave out the names of people who actually invented everything that made Apple big....

the animation business

No, he certainly did not. Know your facts.

Before Graphics Group became Pixar under the leadership of Steve Jobs they, Graphic Groups, already made the basis that would revolutionize the animation industry in a period years later. In fact under Steve Jobs leadership the company didn't do so well, to put it mildly. It was due John Lasseter, who worked at Pixar, his brilliancy that Pixar convinced Walt Disney to invest in the company after he made the short Luxo Jr.. and several computer generated commercials.

music business and the phone business.

Yes and no. With the iPhone, yes. But the music industry? Half, I give a lot of credits to Karlheinz Brandenburg who invented the mp3 format, without that together with it's popularity there would not have been the mp3 player to begin with. And the iPod wasn't the first mp3 player as well, but it sure was, at the time, the best player i.m.h.o.


WAS an arrogant egomaniac, a perfectionist, a tyrant, a purist, a charismatic, the inventor of the "reality distortion field", one of the two or three most famous business men (to the average person) of the last 50 years. Yeah, he was not interesting at all. :rolleyes:

Indeed, Jobs wasn't half as interesting as portrayed in your story, but still, he's an interesting figure I must admit. Don't get me wrong here, I love Apple products but my two feats stay put on the ground knowing that allthough it's tempting to make a messiah out of Jobs, the reality of the matter is that Jobs wasn't a real great technician, neither an inventor and in many occasions even a terrible leader and a businessmen but on the 'right' moment on the 'right time' he made the 'right' decisions that, indeed, changed the industry landscape. But knowing this, one can't be surprised that Hollywood needs brilliant scriptwriters to create this 'reality distortion field' around the guy to make it worthy for visitors to actually buy a ticket to see hum on the big screen :D :apple:
 
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Leo is a great actor, as evident by his performance in Inception and The Wolf of Wall Street, but I really don't see him as Steve Jobs. His face shape alone does not match at all.
 
After having been promised the genius of David Fincher I really have no interest whatsoever to see Boyle's version of the story.
 
I wonder how realistic the movie is gonna be and which parts will be left out.

Like the part where he didn't pay child support...abandoning his daughter and her mother to the point they had to live on welfare. Or when he lied and pocketed the bonus money that Woz didn't know about.

But Steve Jobs invented the iPhone so he's a great guy:D

The movie will have three 30 minutes parts, each of one presenting a new product keynote, so it wont be about Jobs life, but about his work. Thats what we know so far from the script.

And its not about matching the overall apperance. Ofc they will make DiCaprio look somehow similar to Jobs, but I dont think that it is the main focus. The actor main problem would be not the outside apperance but how Jobs was talking, walking, his gestures, his pauses when speeking, his carisma, etc. Some makeup, glasses, diet and clothes may turn almost every person to look similiar to Job and Holywood knows how to make it work even better. DiCaprio has a nice gentle voice, so he may make better Jobs that Cristinan Bale whish is the other name mentioned some weeks ago. The last Jobs movie was a dissaster even when we had a perfect overall match between the actor and the real person. They made it look almost identical to Jobs, but it dosent helped alot. What we rly need is a ****ing good script and a ****ing good actor who wants to make the role of his lifetime. After the last Oscars, Im sure that DiCaprios is going to choose wisly his next big movie.
 
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I would like to meet iSteve-O and dragje, they both must be something like Jesus cloned with Einstein:D of course guys, steve and leo are just average guys, really nothing special (as you portrait them, dragje) and i beleve that iSteve is without any personality flaws - pure human... Or both of you are just trolls.

To the topic, for me, bale would be better.
 
I agreed with your post until this one. Jobs was exceptionally shady regarding his firstborn daughter, to the point where he wouldn't even acknowledge that he was the father.

You can't count someone as a bad person simply because of the few choices they have made in their lives. I didn't live his life so I can't comment on such a matter. However, I can say that I was almost a father once and with the ex gf I had... I probably would have did the same thing. Regardless of the great loving person I feel to be inside. People start to forget that we all have faults, issues, and inner beauty.
 
Well, that gives him the excuse to lose a bunch of weight and win an Oscar. I'm good with this.

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Why? He's a good actor, but not that great compared with others in the field. And why probably? I hope winning an Oscar will be based on the judgement from colleagues actors and directors judging your performance based on, well... based on your performance despite on one's celebrity status.

That is, if winning an Oscar should have some kind of value.....

But he has to lose like a hundred lbs by the last act of the film. That's basically an oscar guarantee.
 
would be dreadful imo.

for me dicaprio is always the same and does not have the ability to immerse the viewer in the character. you dont even see him adjust his appearance for a character.

i have no idea how howard hughes was, jordan belfort is/was and whoever his gangs of new york character was based on but i however do know how steve jobs was and like most here seen countless number of videos from him.
 
And since then, he did a fantastic job in almost every movie he played in. So I'm pretty sure he'd know how to play Steve Jobs as well. Amazing actor.

Agreed. It's worth a shot, imho.

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I mean the film won't be true to the real story, it'll be glammed up by Hollywood.

Glamming things up was one of Job's key skills! He glammed up Apple, every product release, computing in general, himself, everything he touched.

Glamming things up is a large part of why all of us are here. We are the savvy cool people, not those mindless drones of the corporate gulag, etc etc. Jobs sold us that vision of ourselves, and we bought it. Who wouldn't?

No Jobs movie would be accurate without liberal doses of glamming things up.
 
Boyle: Yay! Finally a shot at working with DiCaprio. Now I can be Scorcese too.
Producer: Who? No, we've got Christian Bale lined up. We feel that he has a reasonable physical resemblance to Jobs.
Boyle: But I want Leeeeoooooo.
Producer: Dude, he's like 7 feet and has a watermelon for a head. If we wanted a blind director we would've hired Stevie Wonder.
Boyle: I still want Leo.
Producer: Why?
Boyle: Because he's the same gender as Jobs and he's one of several million people who can act.
Producer: People won't buy it. How will you suspend their disbelief?
Boyle: How dare you sir. I am an accomplished director. Through the magic of cinema I will make them believe anything.
Producer: No, you can't.
Boyle: If I can't have DiCaprio then I want Gabourey Sibide!
Producer: Get out.
 
Leo Di Crappio just won't go away. Terrible actor. Handsome? Yes. Talented? Nope. He's been in lots of lousy movies and in many cases makes them worse. He's not a good actor at all. It's sooooo obvious when he is acting and that's a bad sign. Whatever though. It's time to realize that movies about computer guy CEOs are boring and pointless anyways.
 
Well, that gives him the excuse to lose a bunch of weight and win an Oscar. I'm good with this.

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But he has to lose like a hundred lbs by the last act of the film. That's basically an oscar guarantee.

LOL

Spot on :D

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I would like to meet iSteve-O and dragje, they both must be something like Jesus cloned with Einstein:D of course guys, steve and leo are just average guys, really nothing special (as you portrait them, dragje) and i beleve that iSteve is without any personality flaws - pure human... Or both of you are just trolls.

To the topic, for me, bale would be better.

:)

Well, I can asure you that I'm no troll. That is, if the definition of putting things a bit in perspective is considered trolling then yes, then I'm a troll... Let it be an iTroll then just to a bit in my element here ;):apple:
 
I can't see Dicaprio as Jobs although he's a pretty good actor now. I'm not sure makeup could help him look the part as he doesn't have the frame or facial features.

For me if an actor is portraying the life of someone, especially someone that is still fresh on peoples mind and remembers what he looks like then for me he's going to have favor the guy he's playing.

Ashton had the look but can't act.

If they want to do a Jobs movie IMO they should get a not so known actor that favors Jobs but honestly I don't think a Jobs movie is that interesting for the big screen.
Bale would've done fine. Aaron Eckhart would've worked too.

Leo just doesn't look the part. OK, he also looked nothing like Howard Hughes, Frank Abagnale Jr, J Edgar Hoover or Jordan Belfort, but it didn't matter as much in those cases (two of the characters weren't very known to the public and the other two lived a long time before most of the audience was born).

Jobs is a different story. He died two and a half years ago and everyone knows what he looked and sounded like. Leo is all kinds of wrong for the part. Not that I'd expect those arrogant Hollywood douchebags to care, though. They think their work is so magical that it will hypnotize the audience into believing that DiCaprio is Jobs.
 
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Indeed, Jobs wasn't half as interesting as portrayed in your story, but still, he's an interesting figure I must admit. Don't get me wrong here, I love Apple products but my two feats stay put on the ground knowing that allthough it's tempting to make a messiah out of Jobs, the reality of the matter is that Jobs wasn't a real great technician, neither an inventor and in many occasions even a terrible leader and a businessmen but on the 'right' moment on the 'right time' he made the 'right' decisions that, indeed, changed the industry landscape. But knowing this, one can't be surprised that Hollywood needs brilliant scriptwriters to create this 'reality distortion field' around the guy to make it worthy for visitors to actually buy a ticket to see hum on the big screen :D :apple:

Boy, did you miss the point. I just outlined a script that you seem to think would be pretty interesting. It's close enough to the facts to be the makings of a biopic. Therefore, he is an interesting enough guy to be the source material for a good movie.

How many of the characters who are the basis of biopics had more than a few interesting highlights in theirs lives, and got too much credit for what they accomplished? Pretty much all of them. Napoleon never won a battle single-handedly; most musicians ripped off their songs; almost everyone famous is or was just the front man for a team. Yet, you can make an interesting movie out of the drama in their story. These are not documentaries-- and even those leave out the boring bits, and over-dramatize what's left.
 
Boy did you miss the point.

Enlighten me.

I just outlined a script that you seem to think would be pretty interesting

No, didn't. You, with some degree of sarcasm, tried to point out that it is pretty obvious that Steve Jobs is a very intresting figure that has achieved a lot with the examples you gave which where not accurate to put it mildly.

I explained where you made the historical errors. If anyone would made a biopic on Jobs then at least let it be accurate, not based on false consumptions and over dramatised his role in the industry. Or, put the label fiction on it and give Jobs a lasersword by all means, but then we are talking about something completly different format here.

The bottum line is, if someone makes a biopic it should be based on facts, not on phrasing messiah fanboy suggestions i.m.h.o.

It's close enough to the facts

Not even close, which I've pointed out quite clearly.

to be the makings of a biopic.

With all do respect, with all the misplaced and misjudges credits you've mentioned about Steve Jobs this picture wouldn't be called a biopic but sci-fi.

Therefore, he is an interesting enough guy to be the source material for a good movie.

Again, bring in the label fiction and some CGI and any person could be made intresting enough to base a movie on, but that's not my point, talking about missing one.... The achievements you adress to Mr. Jobs aren't accurate -at all-, a biopic should i.m.h.o. be at least close to the truth.

How many of the characters who are the basis of biopics had more than a few interesting highlights in theirs lives,

That's beside the point and with all do respect not relevant. I didn't wrote that someone needs an extravagant lifespan in order to make a biopic of that person. Even if someone has done one intresting fact in life it could be intresting to make a movie about, depends on the context that is. I'm not stating that a biopic of Jobs wouldn't be interesting, but a biopic filled with exagurated and misplaced facts about the person wouldn't be intresting for me besides the fact I think it's simpy wrong to exagurate someone's his or her achievements just to make him or her more exiting then he or she really is. That's all I'm stating.

and got too much credit for what they accomplished? Pretty much all of them. Napoleon never won a battle single-handedly;

You're debating a metaphor I used in an ironic way, seriously?

most musicians ripped off their songs; almost everyone famous is or was just the front man for a team. Yet, you can make an interesting movie out of the drama in their story. These are not documentaries-- and even those leave out the boring bits, and over-dramatize what's left.

Using Drama, even when exagurating a bit, is not the same as pointing out plainfully wrong facts about his or her achievements in life, in this case that of Steve Jobs. By all means, make it look he did everything for I care, but the fact remains that Jobs didn't earn the credits you presented in the previous post. And we're, or actually, the director's aim in all of this is to portrait Jobs. Then at least portrait the guy with facts, not with lies just in order to make him more then he really was. Personally, Jobs doesn't need all that false credits to begin with, he's intresting enough as the men he was i.m.h.o.
 
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