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Leopard and Boot Camp: Faster "Restarts"
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Tiger development lays out a lot of ground work for future OS, e.g. 64-bit, Intel architecture etc which is a major leap and advancement at the time. Leopard feels like a polisher, much like Windows XP -> Vista (eye candy, as the Windows ME), even Microsoft is going to revitalize its OS strategy. The point is that in order for Apple to claim the most advance OS, some of the advance features must be part of what drive next OSX success. Cutting out features before OS release is the worse thing a company can do. It led to a sense that the company miss manage its resource or unable to achieve such technology! Unless I'm speaking too quickly, the rest of the 290 features would be some what earth shuttering.
Tiger wasn't the completion of the 64-bit transition. Leopard is.
And a lot of that groundwork has been laid in OS X 10.5 as well. I don't think it is fair to just look at the surface stuff.
Frankly, I think you are also mis characterizing Vista too, saying it's just eye candy on top of XP. Vista did still make some pretty significant changes under the hood.
-Zadillo
Sure about that?
If you aren't encouraging anyone to break their NDAs, presumably the only audience you would be speaking to would be users that have an illegal copy? Or possibly people that have talked to people that have broken their NDA?
/Not breaking my NDA!
If you aren't encouraging anyone to break their NDAs, presumably the only audience you would be speaking to would be users that have an illegal copy? Or possibly people that have talked to people that have broken their NDA?
/Not breaking my NDA!
Secret Features?
Did Steve say the ten features that he showed at the WWDC were the top secret features? Maybe there are more to come?
Did Steve say the ten features that he showed at the WWDC were the top secret features? Maybe there are more to come?
The Leopard beta that all of the developers received is supposedly "feature complete."
I think in hindsight, Steve probably mis-spoke when he made that statement about "top secret" features.
I think it set people up to perhaps expect something so radically amazing that it was "top secret" because no-one could see it yet, they didn't want the competition to see it too soon, etc.
A more appropriate statement would have probably just been something like "There's still some more cool stuff in Leopard, but we're not ready to show it off yet, because we don't want to give anyone too much time to duplicate it before we ship Leopard", without any references to "top secret features" that got people's imaginations running wild (i.e. "Top secret?!?!? It must be some completely radically new way of interacting with the computer!")
Or people who are not under NDA but still didn't obtain the copy illegally?
*cough*hint*cough*
No, they can't. To go from OS X to a hibernated Windows you have to reboot the computer. The feature Apple's site described would eliminate the need for the reboot by booting Windows without going through the system startup process (i.e. the grey screen)
Sean
Actually, I use too much of cut and paste to (reboot or go sleep to) use bootcamp. that's why a solution a-la parralels still seems to me to be the most appealing.
Plus, I often need Windows only to view a website in IE (eh). So switching OS (even without rebooting) is a total waste of time for me.
This is too bad. It could have been a really killer feature.
I don't like the fact that Apple still don't have the feature-set locked down even though they stated that it was feature-complete.
I don't like seeing these cracks in Apple's communications.
I don't like the fact that Apple still don't have the feature-set locked down even though they stated that it was feature-complete.
I don't like seeing these cracks in Apple's communications.
I'm always hibernating my laptop with several mounted (network) drives, and many changes are made to the volumes in the meantime, without causing any corruption when it wakes.
Does the network drive mounting architecture offer some protection against this that the local filesystem doesn't?
If that's the case, than am I correct in assuming that there's nothing really stopping this (potential data corruption/destruction) anyway (at least as far as corrupting Windows is concerned) as long as a) you can use the hibernate feature on Windows and b) you can boot into OS X without resuming Windows.
However, the solution to the problem is a very simple one, at least in theory (and could probably be done in practice fairly easily). As you're suspending the OS X/Windows to disk, you make the entire partition read-only so that no data can be written to the partition anyway. You'd still have access to the drive's contents, but would be unable to write and, at least in theory, unable to corrupt the data. Of course, the read-only attribute would only be applied for hibernated drives so that a normal boot/reboot would still allow for full read/write access.
Oh, and an awesome idea for bootcamp would be to add MacDrive functionality to the bootcamp driver set so it would be universally installed.
OR Steve could've just said, "Leopard development is lagging behind because all our software engineering resources are tied up in the iPhone development."
The whole It's-top-secret-because-we-don't want-to-give-Microsoft-time-to-copy was a total smokescreen. Steve does this simply to "rally his base" and generate buzz. I doubt there is any real rivalry/competition anymore.
Personally, I think Leopard will be a very solid release. Tiger released some great technologies but many of them (Spotlight, Dashboard) didn't really work properly. Seems to be one of the big priorities for Leopard is to make everything work better and faster and improve the under-the-hood technologies. I'm all for that. And the new stuff (new cocoa Finder, Spaces, Time Machine, Stacks, Mail) will all get pretty good use out of me. This release will be AS GOOD as Tiger, in my book.
I agree with what you've said here.
And yeah, personally, I know a lot of people were disappointed that Leopard didn't get unveiled with a bunch of mind-blowing new things, but frankly, I am more excited by seeing things that I know I actually will use and will benefit me, even if they aren't so exciting.
Frankly, all I've ever wanted to see in Leopard were performance improvements, an improved Finder, some nice new capabilities along the lines of Expose (which is still one of the coolest UI innovations I've seen in a longn time), etc.
Now that Leopard is out, the disappointment over this missing feature ha solidified. I wonder if it is possible to enable it anyway? Was it actually functional in any of the betas?