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Leopard Aqua scrollbars removed!

MistaBungle said:
This is really excellent. Now if we can only get them to correct the "click red button to close/click red button to close the window but still need to quit" thingy.
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Edit. Yeah, I see. There's a science to why some windows don't quit on the close button but the web browser makes zero sense not to quit on the last window. If anything it should hide the window because once you close the browser you lose your existing web page whereas Hide maintains your web page. Go figure.
 
AWESOME!

now somebody just find out how to replace the stupid aqua bubbles & window bubbles (resize, maximize, minimize) with the flat buttons look (as in timemachine preference pane).
 
theGAPkid said:
The new scrollbars are in finder windows, iLife apps, mail, iWork etc... but Safari and MS office still have the traditional aqua themed ones. Is this supposed to be???

If not HELP! - I love the new look!
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Have you quit and then restarted Safari and Office?
 
xUKHCx said:
When i tried first time i just replaced the existing files and it didn't work. Then i deleted the files and put the new ones in there and then it worked.
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Yeah, my copy (from the source posted) came with edited instructions that added that to them.

This makes my day.
 
This is the first modification to OS X I've seen that actually makes things better.

Apple really screwed up with the default Aqua scrollbars.
 
I use finder in list view mainly, and the tabs at the top are still aqua blue and I can't change them. it looks terrible next to the drab dark blue of the new scrollbars.

I wish apple would change it themselves...change everything.
 
theman said:
I use finder in list view mainly, and the tabs at the top are still aqua blue and I can't change them. it looks terrible next to the drab dark blue of the new scrollbars.

I wish apple would change it themselves...change everything.
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Maybe I'm being too optimistic in hoping that it will come in a 10.5 update...
 
MistaBungle said:
This is really excellent. Now if we can only get them to correct the "click red button to close/click red button to close the window but still need to quit" thingy.
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That's the way Mac OS worked since 1984. There is a good reason for this. Get over it.

(For elaboration, do a search for threads on this, there has been many)

theGAPkid said:
I replaced it with Extras2.rsrc. The backup of the original is still on computers desktop. Could this be causing a conflict?
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Nah, I have it on my desktop too. No problems.
 
theGAPkid said:
yup

and ive restarted the computer :confused:
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Just make sure that after you've actually replaced the Extras2 rsrc file by deleting it first and then replacing it with the new one. Then relaunch the Finder by using command, option escape. Then log out and log back in and all should be good.
 
Does anyone else not have a frameworks folder in their library:confused: am I missing something...some help thanks
 
HLdan said:
Edit. Yeah, I see. There's a science to why some windows don't quit on the close button but the web browser makes zero sense not to quit on the last window. If anything it should hide the window because once you close the browser you lose your existing web page whereas Hide maintains your web page. Go figure.
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Safari opens a new window on my system much quicker if the app is already open than having to start the app from scratch. I would hate if they changed it to close the app when closing the last window.
 
NicP said:
Safari opens a new window on my system much quicker if the app is already open than having to start the app from scratch. I would hate if they changed it to close the app when closing the last window.
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Not only that, but quiting the browser altogether logs you out of every forum, myspace/facebook thingy, or wiki site (etc.). All of my Windows-using friends keep their FireFox downloads window open just so they won't have to reloggin to those things. A few programs in Windows are intuitive, like AIM, wherein the process goes to the system tray in the lower right so closing all windows (even buddy list) doesn't quit the program altogether.

Before Spaces, I would always close the iTunes window even when it plays to save space. I never liked the controller it becomes when you "zoom" it. Same with Mail; I'd want it open but the window closed. And iCal sort of.

Some apps do close with the last window. Like Calculator, System Prefs, and Disk Utility. Some I wish would like Preview, TextEdit, QuickTime. But 99% of the time I close windows with CMD+W than with the button, so CMD+Q isn't such an inconvenience. Much less of one than Safari closing with the last window.
 
Mac OS X Ocelot said:
Some apps do close with the last window. Like Calculator, System Prefs, and Disk Utility. Some I wish would like Preview, TextEdit, QuickTime. But 99% of the time I close windows with CMD+W than with the button, so CMD+Q isn't such an inconvenience. Much less of one than Safari closing with the last window.
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Apple isn't perfect with this, but basically the idea is that if the program only has a purpose having one window open (like Preferences or Disk Utility), it will quit when you close that window. QuickTime, Preview, et al can have multiple meaningful windows open at the same time (multiple movies in QuickTime, multiple PDFs in Preview, etc etc), thus closing a window doesn't quit the program (otherwise, if you have two PDFs open, and close one, the program quits. Does that make sense to you? I hope not).
 
ravenvii said:
Apple isn't perfect with this, but basically the idea is that if the program only has a purpose having one window open (like Preferences or Disk Utility), it will quit when you close that window. QuickTime, Preview, et al can have multiple meaningful windows open at the same time (multiple movies in QuickTime, multiple PDFs in Preview, etc etc), thus closing a window doesn't quit the program (otherwise, if you have two PDFs open, and close one, the program quits. Does that make sense to you? I hope not).
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I'm aware of and agree with point one. Point two is nonsense. Never did anyone say that if you close one window when other windows are open the entire program should quit. But for some apps it makes sense for it to quit when the last window is closed. No more windows open in QuickTime or Preview, no reason for it to be open. At least, none that would suit me.
 
Mac OS X Ocelot said:
I'm aware of and agree with point one. Point two is nonsense. Never did anyone say that if you close one window when other windows are open the entire program should quit. But for some apps it makes sense for it to quit when the last window is closed. No more windows open in QuickTime or Preview, no reason for it to be open. At least, none that would suit me.
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Well, why not extend that to Safari, as well? After you close the last window, it's not doing anything for you, is it?

Mac OS X Ocelot said:
Yeah, but Safari opens faster if I don't quit!
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Yeah, so does QuickTime.

Mac OS X Ocelot said:
But I don't need QuickTime to load faster!
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Well, maybe someone needs/wants to watch several different movies, and keeping one window open while opening another movie so QuickTime wouldn't quit, or having to quit and relaunch QuickTime every time you switch to a different movie, would be annoying, cumbersome, and most of all, dumb.

The same principle applies to Preview. Just replace movies with PDFs or images and QuickTime with Preview above.

Mac OS X Ocelot said:
But I don't!
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... and you think Apple ought to break consistency and guidelines for you, o special one?

There. I saved both of our time by completing the "discussion" in one swoop.
 
I'm kind of embarrassed to admit this, but I got huge problems when trying to replace the file on my Macbook. I deleted the file, but got errors when I was copying the new file. In the end Finder wouldn't respond or relaunch or anything. I restarted and couldn't log in, so I thought I'd start from the Leopard disc and use Time Machine to restore the file.

Unfortunately, neither the Leopard or the Tiger disc seems to want to boot. I get a blue screen and the spinning wheel from time to time. The cursor is only visible for a couple of seconds.

I'd heard about problems starting with the Leopard disc, so I thought I'd install Tiger on one of my external drives and fix the problem after booting from it, but as it is now, I can't seem to do that either.

I would be very grateful if someone could give me some pointers. Maybe I should just go to a store that sells Macs and use one of theirs to install on an external ;)
 
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