actually, it's $99 if they are student developers.
Nope. Student developers don't have access to the seed. You have to be paying at least $500 if you wan't Leopard legally.
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Nope. Student developers don't have access to the seed. You have to be paying at least $500 if you wan't Leopard legally.
It's not like Apple hasn't done something similar in the past, in regards to hiding features from developers. In Macworld January 2000, when Apple announced Mac OS X to the public, Steve said they had been "secretly working on a new UI called Aqua for the past 18 months", and mentioned that none of the developers outside Apple have seen it.
You seem to view things in a very black-and-white way. It is highly likely, in my opinion, that Apple has internal builds with extras, perhaps some bug fixes, and probably a lot of bugs which AREN'T in the previews. I've said so before, in saying why it was possible Leopard could indeed be released in June (which we now know it won't be.)
Apple most likely has several different internal branches of Leopard (not all of them may be actively developed), and Apple probably has nightly builds of it.
On a side note, from looking at the list of known bugs, it appears that Apple has basically ripped apart many of the existing components in the OS to write newer-and-better versions, thus the bugs (as some seem to be coming from a low level)
Sigh. Was off by that much using bonehead PM methods. Might be more to them than expected.
it's really very simple. each time a build is released to developers it must go through a QA process. if apple were ripping out features to keep them secret the entire QA process is pointless, there would be no way to know if the bugs being reported would be fixed with these "secret builds". it would create bottlenecks, confusion and delays beyond imagination -- just look at vista for an example and that was with known features. the QA team would come in every night, compile a list of bugs and the developers the next morning would have to fix bugs instead of write features.
i'm not saying there aren't additional features being worked on at apple, what i am saying is they're not integrated in the main build, apple isn't ripping them out prior to handing over to developers and they're not doing it for marketing reasons.
as for credentials a) this is the internet, i could say whatever i want and there'd be no way to prove it (i note that you don't list yours either) and b) keeping in mind (a), my credentials include books on software dev, speaking engagements, consulting gigs with top software developers, etc... i keep my professional and personal personas on the internet separate for business reasons.
i'm not arguing against internal branches (though a previous post, may have done through sheer exasperation). i'm arguing against the belief that apple is deliberately taking features out of builds released to developers and that leopard was "almost ready for release, with the secret features". it would negate the whole beta process.
there are undoubtedly different branches at apple, but if they were ready to be released they would be included in the builds.
But these internal builds may indeed have features Apple doesn't want us to see, and thus doesn't put in the developer previews (they aren't betas - they are meant for software development. Apple said that in June WWDC they will give betas to developers)
But I do doubt that the secret features fix the bugs mysteriously, as if them being missing was the key problem, then (they being such important secret features that they cause such bugs) the system would probably fail to compile.
actually, it's $99 if they are student developers.
but I actually agree with you a little bit, at least about posting them to the torrents.
Students only get a copy of the publicly available client releases, and a T-Shirt.
For anyone thinking that you can audit a class and get $30 off your copy of Leopard, Apple is very thorough in following enrollment -- I graduated 27 days before my Student Membership expired and was told that I had to either upgrade, or my membership would end early.
Wait, I'm a student developer... If I were to purchase their $99 program and become a ADC Student Member, would I get the builds of Leopard too?actually, it's $99 if they are student developers.
but I actually agree with you a little bit, at least about posting them to the torrents.
Yeah, getting the OS on computers isn't a big deal - A misc bug. Something that can wait until 10.5.1
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I'm not a dev by any means (I guess that makes 2 of us), but lying, pirating, and stealing, etc. doesn't make it OK. Here's to hoping you get caught.
The reason some don't look right is because the window in the forefront has the dark silver/gray color while any window in the background goes to an off-white sort of color.
And there is a degree of transparency in the "save" and a couple other dialogs..
Remember when Tiger's GUI was released and we were all like... OMG EW!!!11omgzeleven11!!
Now we love it. Give it a chance is what I'm trying to say.
Now we love it. Give it a chance is what I'm trying to say.
Unified theme?
How about Quicktime Player? If Apple have finally truly unified the UI (and not just by making each app's own separate UI elements look the same but by ACTUALLY using the same UI elements across the board) this is a wonderful thing indeed.
How about Quicktime Player? If Apple have finally truly unified the UI (and not just by making each app's own separate UI elements look the same but by ACTUALLY using the same UI elements across the board) this is a wonderful thing indeed.
Not quite. I was alive and well then, thank you.
But to answer your question, if one of the _libraries_ that Emacs is built on top of (e.g. X11) is undergoing some changes, Emacs could be affected. Those libraries could be owned by the OS, and Emacs builds on top of them, expecting certain functionality to stay the same. If the functionality is different even in some minor way, it may violate and assumption that Emacs was making and break it.
Suspecting instead that it is some conspiracy by Apple who is injecting breaking bugs into the OS on purpose is idiotic.
truthfully, i am very disappointed with apple's effort on leopard atm. has anyone seen beryl on linux?
this is what i'm talking about : Youtube link
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this is what i'm talking about : Youtube link
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I wouldn't even say that. This is more like a entertainment system, its like something from the Lawnmower Man or Disney with the magic spell looking thing on the windows.
Feels like something for your kids to be honest.
I will simply say that part of the above post is not entirely true. I don't know if it breaks NDA to imply something, but...for some students..(you can add 1 and 1 yourself...and the emphasis is mine)
(http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/headstart/)
On a sidenote, education pricing for all versions of OS X was $69, maybe lower depending on ..stuff. The real non-developer incentive to get the student membership is for the hardware discount.